It's a lot of ISO stuff, with how Gamma/Darby/Toog have interacted with VP, also look at the final wagon. VP stayed on Gamma. Gamma will flip red. Gamma was more obvious than Darby, it makes more sense to try and keep the vote with your obvious partner. Idk how you tr VP
So I'm scum because I was trying to flip someone who was red in your eyes, and arguably is more competent than Darby?
That's an insanely insulting read of my scum playing ability.
And what is the interaction with Gamma you're referring to? You mean where he screeched for my head and put a fake ass vote there for 20 pages?
if you're gonna fight with your scum buddy, you should do it in the scum pt instead of the main thread cuz it looks super fake when you do it in public
Night 1 begins now and ends in (expired on 2021-11-28 02:00:00).
Actually, I was gonna give a "If gamma somehow flips town speech" but if gamma is town, it's toog and VP lmao like, Darby was not the leading wagon when I replaced in, gamma was leading, the wagon flipped to a darby lim. yeah, I legit think, upon joining, I had a 3/4 of gamma/vp/darby/toog. easyyyyy
In post 2070, Andante wrote:ok hold up, Darby's Gamma read is 100% textbook reading a partner, that's early ISO, means I think I got my VP read off of Gamma
I've been saying this for like a week >.>
~ skitter
AND NO ONE LISTENED TO YOU???? Like, the interaction stuff is plain as day. so easy!!!
Like, honestly I know I just said "if gamma flips town" but I agreed with Darby scum off the gamma read, I don't think gamma can flip green here actually
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:38 am
by Fun and Games
At a time when ico/gamma/dunn (toog) were the main viable options, ico kept trying to push towards dunn and ignored gamma, which i think is +town for toog and damning for gamma
In post 1733, Dwlee99 wrote:I know I have to big shoes to fill here but I hope I won't disappoint
Thanks for replacing in, Dwlee!
Yes
Now tell me who is scum or I'll end up aimlessly isoing people
Probably Dunn, maybe Darby and Gamma.
I also think Sleepless, but no one is supporting me there.
Bingle is town. Datisi is probably town.
A flip should give some clarity on the rest.
like this is so lol if you r mafia with darby/gamma
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:39 am
by VP Baltar
In post 2078, Fun and Games wrote:At a time when ico/gamma/dunn (toog) were the main viable options, ico kept trying to push towards dunn and ignored gamma, which i think is +town for toog and damning for gamma
~ skitter
Yes, this exactly
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:39 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2078, Fun and Games wrote:At a time when ico/gamma/dunn (toog) were the main viable options, ico kept trying to push towards dunn and ignored gamma, which i think is +town for toog and damning for gamma
~ skitter
Ty for the Dunn/toog stuff
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:39 am
by Fun and Games
In post 1070, Fun and Games wrote:part of me thinks that ico/gamma can be aligned ... ico has been steering away from gamma and trying to direct to dunn
~ skitter
At least since here, possibly earlier
~ skitter
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:40 am
by Fun and Games
Gamma was at 6 votes with his own vote on himself
Darby was at 3
Gamma didn't even vote switch to Darby until A50 changed the direction
It's a lot of ISO stuff, with how Gamma/Darby/Toog have interacted with VP, also look at the final wagon. VP stayed on Gamma. Gamma will flip red. Gamma was more obvious than Darby, it makes more sense to try and keep the vote with your obvious partner. Idk how you tr VP
So I'm scum because I was trying to flip someone who was red in your eyes, and arguably is more competent than Darby?
That's an insanely insulting read of my scum playing ability.
And what is the interaction with Gamma you're referring to? You mean where he screeched for my head and put a fake ass vote there for 20 pages?
if you're gonna fight with your scum buddy, you should do it in the scum pt instead of the main thread cuz it looks super fake when you do it in public
I wanna say I SRed dunn/toog more than VP thogh, I need to recall why, but that's a tomorrow thing, I guarantee you that you're gonna go tonight... yall have 2 brains, and both yall are awesome!! The solve still feels way too easy, it's never this easy...
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:40 am
by VP Baltar
Andante replaced penguin. It makes more sense now.
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:41 am
by Fun and Games
and VP Baltar said A50 direction changing from Gamma -> Darby was bad
but Gamma doesn't call out VP Baltar
like that's just bad ?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:44 am
by VP Baltar
In post 2087, Fun and Games wrote:and VP Baltar said A50 direction changing from Gamma -> Darby was bad
but Gamma doesn't call out VP Baltar
like that's just bad ?
What's my scum motivation in this scenario to try and yeet the more competent scum buddy assuming gamma!scum?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:44 am
by Dwlee99
Even if VP is town and I'm right I don't really care if we are down to one scum at that point VOTE: Gamma
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:45 am
by Fun and Games
to get towncred duh
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:46 am
by Fun and Games
if gamma/darby is S/S like we are assuming
You want to be on the wagon that goes through so you look good tommorrow and get to push the people on the other wagon.
You didn't like A50 changing direction from Gamma to Darby because it leaves you on the wagon that isn't going through and Gamma had already checked out and didn't even want to play anymore since he was self-voting.
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:46 am
by Fun and Games
The most damning thing is that Gamma didn't go back and look at this situation and see who was against this wagon change because if he was town he should be looking at that.
Legit think there are two scum in (Dunn, Gamma, enchant, Ico)
Game is moving too fast and they can't keep with the pace. Sleeper scum in the actives.
Ico is darby, Dunn is toog
like, Dunn/Gamma/Ico, what is this early thought...
skitter, you really found something towny for toog? toog wasn't voting, sure it was a replace in, but if you replace in, you have some motivation to play, unless the leading wagon is your partner?
Town cred doesn't mean much if you're making your chances of winning smaller.
Other reads: enchant probably IS town if Gamma flips red. Gamma had town binning him from the start of the game with bad reasons reads like pocketing.
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:48 am
by Fun and Games
there wasn't really a way for you to get an elimination outside of Darby/Gamma.
You guys tried to kill dunnstral but that didn't work out that well.
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:48 am
by Andante
In post 2091, Fun and Games wrote:You want to be on the wagon that goes through so you look good tommorrow and get to push the people on the other wagon.
True, unless you're not here/ don't actually think the wagon is gonna flip, if it's scum/scum you want the partner you think looks worse, and I don't think Darby even realized they looked as bad as they did. I'm kinda thinking gamma into toog here, and if that doesn't end game, reconsider
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:49 am
by Andante
In post 2095, Fun and Games wrote:there wasn't really a way for you to get an elimination outside of Darby/Gamma.
You guys tried to kill dunnstral but that didn't work out that well.
THERE WAS A DUNN PUSH? OMG lol give me a sec, ignore my past comment
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:49 am
by Fun and Games
Nah the way Gamma pushed back on my readslist strongly indicates its not a gamma/darby/tooge team imo
lmao VP and Darby on dunn... that is funny. but, would both partners push someone? I don't think I've seen that, it's always like, a bad town idea that scum joins. like, 2 scum + 1 town? ehhhh