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In post 2072, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 2069, koopashell wrote:Asking you to back up your claims with receipts is not discrediting.

You are discrediting yourself by not obliging.

on a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you think i care?

In post 2073, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 2071, koopashell wrote:

In post 2066, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 2052, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 2051, koopashell wrote:jv locktown

reread 1 post, I do not want that slot eliminated this game ever.

That's quite a statement to make. Can I ask what post you reread

Or can you at least give me a hint if it's about something hidden.

I'll keep it a secret just for fun.

If it's just for fun I would rather you out it so I'll be locktown to everyone as well. As well as to gauge if such a post does in fact exist and you aren't making it up to excuse not getting shot.

In post 2062, Flavor Leaf wrote:Roden, I just don't care.

Every single time you come up and discredit is after I had gone and spent hours going back and forth with others.

I'm just so over it, and not even pushing you at this point anymore.

In post 2064, Flavor Leaf wrote:I'm like only half reading your posts because my mental capacity for doing another 1v1 is not there. im not in go back and find things mode.

In post 2076, koopashell wrote:

In post 2073, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 2071, koopashell wrote:

In post 2066, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 2052, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 2051, koopashell wrote:jv locktown

reread 1 post, I do not want that slot eliminated this game ever.

That's quite a statement to make. Can I ask what post you reread

Or can you at least give me a hint if it's about something hidden.

I'll keep it a secret just for fun.

If it's just for fun I would rather you out it so I'll be locktown to everyone as well. As well as to gauge if such a post does in fact exist and you aren't making it up to excuse not getting shot.

If people won't listen to my reasoning for my regular townreads at all - what makes you think you have any chance?

In post 2063, Roden wrote:Koopa, don't try to 1v1 Leaf. His entire strategy is to rile up anyone who goes against him so that no one will want to listen to them. I know it sucks but if you argue with him, he's going to bait you into hyper posting and it'll discredit your takes on the game.

In post 2025, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 2018, Scorpious wrote: No, you still make me very uncomfortable. I don’t know why you would claim such an excruciatingly complex role with zero pressure to do so.
Coupled with your response of “not wanting to screw up” or whatever you said. You’re not worried about screwing up. You know better..

It also pinged me that your claim interlocks almost perfectly with koopa’s..
and if you’re both town you have greatly reduced our win chances with these decisions..

With this player list of you are both outed town scum is going to eat us alive ….


Pedit— are we at ludicrous posting yet?
Pedit 2- we’re plaid for sure
Pedit 3- what comes after plaid?

I claimed because I believed it to be in Town's best interest. Throughout the day, and since the Gunsmith claimed my theory of me being a false-guilty to them grew stronger than the belief that my base role existed in the game.

And since the Gunsmith seemed to have be in his scum-pool and seemed overly tunnelled about it I felt super pressured into doing so as a false-guilty on me would almost certainly mean I die, and if my base-role does exist that would double down as being worse than if I risked getting red-checked.

Just how Millers should claim day 1, I assumed that I was such role and thus claimed. I was actually incredibly stressed with deciding whether or not I should claim, it's why I said that koopa's claim screwed a lot up. Because my claim had the possibility to literally fuck up so much as that's two town PRs possibly outted for no real reason in the case of my base role existing.

Regarding the win-con, would you prefer I risked getting red-checked? That's a fair thing to think, I was questioning the same thing but just came to a different conclusion than you seem that you would have done in my position. The interlock with koopa's role doesn't read to me like a scum-tell at all, wouldn't that be a +1 for me being Town as contradictions in the Towns PRs usually out the mafia in it.

I am not confirmed Town in the least, don't treat me as such and you'll be gucci. I consider myself a miller and I do not believe my base-role exists. I have a LOT of doubt.

In post 2068, koopashell wrote:

Spoiler:

In post 80, KittyTacky wrote:Self-consciousness isn't a scumtell IMHO.

I don't know how koopa "reads from the hip" on pages 1-2 and expects to be accurate in any way.

In post 178, KittyTacky wrote:UNVOTE:

I don't really like Mala but I will refrain from really voting them for nyow.

FOS: Malakittens

These 2 quotes are directly connected - They may be 100 posts apart, but the consistency in thought process is maintained for Kitty. They didn't care for the defensiveness but later saw something minor that was said they didn't like.

In post 80, KittyTacky wrote:Self-consciousness isn't a scumtell IMHO.

I don't know how koopa "reads from the hip" on pages 1-2 and expects to be accurate in any way.

In post 178, KittyTacky wrote:UNVOTE:

I don't really like Mala but I will refrain from really voting them for nyow.

FOS: Malakittens

In post 364, KittyTacky wrote:

In post 232, koopashell wrote:Like Italiano has a lot of shade thrown at Mala, *however*, he is pushing elsewhere instead, rather than pursuing a read that in words is their strongest wolfread, when you look at the things Italiano has said.

Also this world I feel that Salad slot also fits in as the 3rd wolf - in which case I need to wait for Salad to post here to see how they act.

Now that you mentyion it, yeah I agree and I'm willing to sheep this.
VOTE: ItalianoVD

In post 367, KittyTacky wrote:Mala and Italiano are both scummy to me right meow.

In post 368, KittyTacky wrote:

In post 303, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 234, koopashell wrote:Also Mala has not once reacted to Italiano's shade against her, but has replied to mostly everyone pushing her otherwise.

This is my issue. I've given her plenty of things to respond to and I only get a joke. I think?

But you said 224 just before?

Kitty is genuinely parsing the game. The final quote - shows that Kitty is questioning Italiano for something they said before that they believe is contradictory to what they are saying in the moment.

In post 803, KittyTacky wrote:

In post 457, Scorpious wrote:VOTE: Koopa

For flooding the game with crappy contradicting logic.

Scorpious stonks going down.

Speaking of contradicting logic, did anyone else notice how Mala went fully into lurkspace after people stopped pushing them? Sus.

Pointed this out before - this post shows Kitty is paying attention and applying focus in multiple places -> A townie thing. Scum will generally try not to get too spread out as to not lose control.

In post 1095, KittyTacky wrote:

In post 959, koopashell wrote:VOTE: kitty

I read their meta and got cold feet.
I also read Kitty's meta and this feels correct.

Everyone's buzzing around and saying I'm scummy but nobody's elaborating. Why?

I play like this every game as either alignment. It's just my playstyle, sometimes I get scumread for it.

^
Genuine post

In post 1099, KittyTacky wrote:

In post 985, Roden wrote:

In post 970, koopashell wrote:Let's wagon Kitty.

I'd probably be more willing to do so if there wasn't so much resistance to a Mala wagon every time it cropped up while she lurks out the pressure.

Yeah I don't see how I am a wagon target when Mala is scummy as all get up and lurks way harder than me.

Not a point in Kitty's favor but this was interesting about the gamestate at the time

In post 1102, KittyTacky wrote:

In post 1083, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Is it AtE about how offended they are that their town playstyle has been wrongfully called "lost"?

As scum, that's amazing cover and Im probably gonna double down when people underestimate me like that. He didnt, and it makes me think its likely genuine

He got very annoyed when I pushed him last game, called me dense and stubborn in the same way a townie would if wrongfully pushed (the push was on mechanics), etc.

Pulling out meta like this is +town.

In post 1157, KittyTacky wrote:There's almost definitely at least one scum between {Malakittens, JacksonVirgo, Scorpious}. Italiano seems less scummy after a reevaluation but it's possible. But I'm voting between those three today barring something shaking up the gamestate in an extreme manner.

Man the consistency of these reads ... wow. Also it is not static either -> there is progression to more.

This is fully natural to me. I do not play this way but I do not also see it from wolves either.

In post 1169, KittyTacky wrote:I am also aware I am wrong on at least one scumread, since there are 3 scum and I have 4 scumreads. I doubt I just clapped all 3 scum day 1 but if I had to pick just one to be wrong about, it's be ItalianoVD.

Consistent with previous thoughts.

I think I will stop here -> You get the point. This slot is town to me, and these are posts why.

In post 2081, koopashell wrote:

In post 2025, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 2018, Scorpious wrote: No, you still make me very uncomfortable. I don’t know why you would claim such an excruciatingly complex role with zero pressure to do so.
Coupled with your response of “not wanting to screw up” or whatever you said. You’re not worried about screwing up. You know better..

It also pinged me that your claim interlocks almost perfectly with koopa’s..
and if you’re both town you have greatly reduced our win chances with these decisions..

With this player list of you are both outed town scum is going to eat us alive ….


Pedit— are we at ludicrous posting yet?
Pedit 2- we’re plaid for sure
Pedit 3- what comes after plaid?

I claimed because I believed it to be in Town's best interest. Throughout the day, and since the Gunsmith claimed my theory of me being a false-guilty to them grew stronger than the belief that my base role existed in the game.

And since the Gunsmith seemed to have be in his scum-pool and seemed overly tunnelled about it I felt super pressured into doing so as a false-guilty on me would almost certainly mean I die, and if my base-role does exist that would double down as being worse than if I risked getting red-checked.

Just how Millers should claim day 1, I assumed that I was such role and thus claimed. I was actually incredibly stressed with deciding whether or not I should claim, it's why I said that koopa's claim screwed a lot up. Because my claim had the possibility to literally fuck up so much as that's two town PRs possibly outted for no real reason in the case of my base role existing.

Regarding the win-con, would you prefer I risked getting red-checked? That's a fair thing to think, I was questioning the same thing but just came to a different conclusion than you seem that you would have done in my position. The interlock with koopa's role doesn't read to me like a scum-tell at all, wouldn't that be a +1 for me being Town as contradictions in the Towns PRs usually out the mafia in it.

I am not confirmed Town in the least, don't treat me as such and you'll be gucci. I consider myself a miller and I do not believe my base-role exists. I have a LOT of doubt.

Fiiine ^ it was this post

In post 2078, Roden wrote:

In post 2062, Flavor Leaf wrote:Roden, I just don't care.

Every single time you come up and discredit is after I had gone and spent hours going back and forth with others.

I'm just so over it, and not even pushing you at this point anymore.

In post 2064, Flavor Leaf wrote:I'm like only half reading your posts because my mental capacity for doing another 1v1 is not there. im not in go back and find things mode.

This is a very convenient mind set to have when asked to follow through with the basics of a scum case.

I didn't ask you to 1v1 a bunch of other players. If you're exhausted then stop spreading yourself thin and acting like you're confident certain players will flip red.

In post 2090, koopashell wrote:Please don't react like a toddler being asked to eat their vegetables.

In post 2094, JacksonVirgo wrote:@FL want a photo of a cute cat.

In post 208, Flavor Leaf wrote:Roden and Italian are the two that I've sniffed some scum energy on thus far. Too early to tell if that's accurate or not, because at least with Italian I've seen a few townie energy auras coming off of em.

In post 612, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 598, Roden wrote:

In post 527, Flavor Leaf wrote:Man, this human's obsessed with me.

@Roden - wasn't that serious

So much FL talk when I was away, that's what I like to see. Even when I'm not here, the spotlight loves me

Nah you don't get to backpedal after you made several solves that make me a PoE choice without explaining anything.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is probably coming from town who hasn't learned how to look past getting POE scum read as a personal thing.

In post 636, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Koopa - I don't think I'm correct with all those reads I've had, I'm even starting to flip flop on Roden a bit more. Mainly because I want to see NK15 push harder if he's scum, but I don't think I'm wrong on all of them either.

In post 651, Flavor Leaf wrote:it was more i felt it at the time, then stopped feeling it. the more you talk, the more i actually start to scum read Roden again, though.

Mainly because the more you talk the more I'm getting a feeling you might be town who's just looking at the game in black and white.

I get my reads through direct interaction.

Otherwise it's mainly gamestate reads from the perspective I have at the time I give the read.

Roden was all gamestate reads at the time since I hadn't interacted with them.

Scum manipulate gamestate, so by looking at my past gamestate reads in the future, I can look to see where scum were manipulating things as the days go on.