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In post 2085, Serene wrote:

How many times did Nero show support for a Stevie wagon?

NO TIME.

you're actually retarded.

NO TIME.[/quote]

In post 2097, StevieT92 wrote:Zdenek hammer your buddy please

abort yourself

In post 2100, Nero wrote:you're actually retarded.

If you want to be technical, I'm brain damaged.

You kept insulting me in pretty much 100% of your posts instead of reminding people to vote Stevie, so suck it up.

In post 2095, Serene wrote:Who is on your scumlist, Rift?

bulba, TMT, The Goat, possibly Cephrir but my stance has softened on him. T S O's read is stale. And there are things about Shadi's play as the game developed that worry me at times.

In post 2096, Zdenek wrote:

In post 2093, Rift Adrift wrote:

In post 2091, Zdenek wrote:

In post 2084, Rift Adrift wrote:

In post 2076, Zdenek wrote:I really wish that we'd lynched Stevie.
I don't see why we couldn't have done that.


Such is life.

I don't get the Stevie hate.

I've read through the most recent of his scum and town games that Crabd linked. In both cases he was posting walls compared to this game. I read a less recent town game and it was more like this game. Short comments on long-ass quotewalls. I need to look the other games over and get a better feel for the differences.

You will literally never catch scum this way.
Most people post in roughly the same way town or scum because that's their thing.
You're more likely to catch people who are busy IRL this way.

Exactly. I've assumed his short bursts of activity coincide with having access and time.

and how does that have anything to do with being town or scum?

Right. His posts here haven't alarmed me. And there's nothing conclusive in his meta so far. Hence my not getting the Stevie hate.

I could have easily gone off on Bulba (and I have but people had precious null reads on him), The Goat I recall was on my replace-in scumlist for sure, and I came around on Cephrir-scum while your read waned. I think Shadi is town.

But.

Everyone filled their diapers at the thought of a 5+ wagon.

In post 2105, Serene wrote:I could have easily gone off on Bulba (and I have but people had precious null reads on him), The Goat I recall was on my replace-in scumlist for sure, and I came around on Cephrir-scum while your read waned. I think Shadi is town.

But.

Everyone filled their diapers at the thought of a 5+ wagon.

I wish you had gone off on Bulba. I was feeling ignored.

In post 2104, Rift Adrift wrote:And there's nothing conclusive in his meta so far. Hence my not getting the Stevie hate.

Screw meta, and hold the jelly.

Look at THIS FUCKING GAME

The one we're playing right now.

Stevie is scum right here under your nose and you're looking at all his old games and shedding tears over him.

If you wait for posts that alarm you, you will never lynch anyone.

Scum slips are more likely statistically to catch town.

No. Start off reading everyone as scum and work your way backwards as they look more town. Town reads should be precious gold in the desert, not the default.

In post 2106, Rift Adrift wrote:I wish you had gone off on Bulba.

Two of our 3 heads went full RAGECAP on him and don't even think we recruited one player to the wagon.

In post 2107, Serene wrote:

In post 2104, Rift Adrift wrote:And there's nothing conclusive in his meta so far. Hence my not getting the Stevie hate.

Screw meta, and hold the jelly.

Look at THIS FUCKING GAME

The one we're playing right now.

Stevie is scum right here under your nose and you're looking at all his old games and shedding tears over him.

When you selectively quote like this, what you leave out speaks volumes.

We're trying to tell you that meta is a tool but not the be all end all

In post 2109, Serene wrote:

In post 2106, Rift Adrift wrote:I wish you had gone off on Bulba.

Two of our 3 heads went full RAGECAP on him and don't even think we recruited one player to the wagon.

Probably because my vote on him was already down, though I think my previous vote on Doc/Cephrir was well justified and may yet prove to have been on scum.

P sure I remember replying favorably to your bulba vote.

Here's the thing. Like you, I pushed a few players I thought were scum and there was little to no appetite. Then I voted Nero and there was a fucking avalanche.

If I can figure out what triggers avalanches of votes I'm going to love this game. If I can't, I'm going to get cranky and paranoid and then you and I can be the ones who fill up the thread with piles of useless shit.

In post 2103, Rift Adrift wrote:

In post 2095, Serene wrote:Who is on your scumlist, Rift?

bulba, TMT, The Goat, possibly Cephrir but my stance has softened on him. T S O's read is stale. And there are things about Shadi's play as the game developed that worry me at times.

I'm reasonably certain Cephrir's town, so you can drop him. Nacho's read on Shadi is probably a bit dated (you'd have to ask him), but last I checked, he saw Shadi as town. I've at times agreed with you, but , I agree with Nacho's townread, there, because Shadi's posts just have an air of sincerity around 'em.

So, can you talk to me about Goat and TSO? I guess also BulbaFenix (since, again, not strong read), though the other two are more important. (That said, I vaguely recall having Goat as a scumread way back when, but that opinion's so dated that I'm not sure how valid it is. )

In post 2111, Serene wrote:We're trying to tell you that meta is a tool but not the be all end all

You are not telling me anything I don't know.

In post 2109, Serene wrote:

In post 2106, Rift Adrift wrote:I wish you had gone off on Bulba.

Two of our 3 heads went full RAGECAP on him and don't even think we recruited one player to the wagon.

Ironically enough for someone calling us scum, you sure seem to be ignorant of our vote; it was shortly after you made your BulbaFenix case that Nacho first switched to BulbaFenix.

It's because we expect you to bus

In post 2115, Calcifer wrote:Ironically enough for someone calling us scum, you sure seem to be ignorant of our vote; it was shortly after you made your BulbaFenix case that Nacho first switched to BulbaFenix.

Yeah, I said scum on the wagon, but I was really talking about players' reaction to the wagon. Scum. You know you're scum. You're going to have to NK me.

Oh, and...

In post 2082, Serene wrote:

In post 2074, Rift Adrift wrote:p sure Calcifer isn't on the wagon. His vote was on bulba last I checked.

That's even scummier.

Quite aware of it. But I made a conscious decision that I was not going to be part of the Nero wagon. Even considered making a sarcastic post about refusing to bus my scumbuddy Nero and waiting for Nacho to dirty his hands on it instead. But truth is, I just didn't feel it. "That's a load of bull, you're telling me you didn't join because you 'did not feel it'?"

...Yeah.

If you got a problem with that, you're free to try and lynch me tomorrow. Won't work then just as it didn't work today.

In post 2113, Calcifer wrote:

In post 2103, Rift Adrift wrote:

In post 2095, Serene wrote:Who is on your scumlist, Rift?

bulba, TMT, The Goat, possibly Cephrir but my stance has softened on him. T S O's read is stale. And there are things about Shadi's play as the game developed that worry me at times.

I'm reasonably certain Cephrir's town, so you can drop him. Nacho's read on Shadi is probably a bit dated (you'd have to ask him), but last I checked, he saw Shadi as town. I've at times agreed with you, but

overall

, I agree with Nacho's townread, there, because Shadi's posts just have an air of sincerity around 'em.

So, can you talk to me about Goat and TSO? I guess also BulbaFenix (since, again, not strong read), though the other two are more important. (That said, I vaguely recall having Goat as a scumread way back when, but that opinion's so dated that I'm not sure how valid it is. )

Goat's a combo of mostly irrelevant content and mostly disappeared. TSO started as a town read, and then slipped due to his "light trolling" for town cred, but mostly because he's slipped out of the thread.

Re Bulba, talk to Nacho. I haven't liked his pushes on players, haven't liked the way he basically ignores pressure, haven't liked the way his defences are usually counter attacks. Look at the Prohawk interaction for examples of that.

My issue with Shadi is that he's mostly not scumhunting, just standing around agreeing or disagreeing with what people say. He's not in my scumpile. He's on my watch list.

In post 2113, Calcifer wrote:So, can you talk to me about Goat and TSO? I guess also BulbaFenix (since, again, not strong read), though the other two are more important. (That said, I vaguely recall having Goat as a scumread way back when, but that opinion's so dated that I'm not sure how valid it is

Thanks for the scummy hot air, though.

In post 2118, Calcifer wrote:Won't work then just as it didn't work today.

Yeah because the scum isn't bus'ing and townies have null reads on all the scum.

You're right. I'll never see you hang.

Welcome, replacement person

In post 2107, Serene wrote:Screw meta, and hold the jelly.

Look at THIS FUCKING GAME

The one we're playing right now.

Stevie is scu

no shit cap'n obvious