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My team is like dead certain Egg is scum.

Boon who is on your team again? I want to know for future reference who sucks at reading me

↑ Boonskiies wrote:actually, STD was scum reading me. I think this pushes towards Trojan scum.

Plus, he speaks as if he knows stuff we don't anyways.

Huh? I don't know what you're talking about.

Gif, ika, and zzyx. Lol ok.

↑ pieguyn wrote:I'm trying to figure out why scum would leave STD alive if they had correctly figured out he was the RB on D2. given jason was a bogyguard and thus would (or rather, *should*) protect STD, I really do not think it would be worth it to no kill in that situation as opposed to shooting STD immediately - in other scenarios, it'd be worth it, but not when it'd get protected, I don't think. I'm not sure about this, though.

This.

UNLESS (tinfoil hat time) somebody decided to go all-in and gamble on outguessing jason getting him lynched. I don't even want to think about the odds on that one, but it explains all the scum actions pointing to a high EV play. That makes me interested in the jason wagon, but I'm having a hard time reviewing the wagon movement since it apparently happened entirely between votecounts.

↑ pieguyn wrote:sthar, I can trust you, right? >.>

No? No shortcuts this game, you need to look at my play and decide if it's town or not. I'm a little disconcerted that nobody in thread is wondering why I was looking for town power roles. think it should be obvious, but apparently nobody else was doing it, so...

which jason wagon is this? I can go back and compile per-page VCs for it if you want. although if it's the one from D4, now that I look at it, it never got past one vote (Egg).

Hi diddely ho, neighborinos. I'm going to hit this game up tomorrow. Sorry for the recent slacking.

↑ pieguyn wrote:which jason wagon is this? I can go back and compile per-page VCs for it if you want. although if it's the one from D4, now that I look at it, it never got past one vote (Egg).

And Trojan. His vote only stuck for two posts, even though he had a couple of other posts declaring that he was hard set on lynching jason. And Delta was pushing hard for the action claims, although he might have been doing the same thing I was.

The wagon looks really good for boon, and I think nobody else.

problem is, I don't remotely think it's a necessity that scum would push jason

if I was scum, I'd likely WK the shit out of it (admittedly in a similar way to what I did here) in no small part bc anyone who knows anything about setup spec would be able to confirm him as town anyway

yeah that's why it's tinfoil. relies on scum deciding that jason was lynchable.

honestly none of my attempts at rereading anything give me cause to question the current gamestate

I still think DW is town bc I really don't think Mala was thinking to distance from him in that situation

I still think sthar and TH are town - I still can't reconcile what the hell sthar was trying to do D2 if he was scum here. he would have had basically the entire day where he could have BS'ed a push on DW in order to save Mala, given he appeared to think DW was scum at the start of the day, but he chose not to for.... ??? plus Thor on D1

and Boon's recent play also supports it in that it looks like he's setting up to push TH tomorrow if Egg gets lynched today

it will fucking suck if I'm just missing something huge here and I've gone horribly wrong somewhere.

actually you know what, I think Mala pushing DW is even more of a town tell for DW than it'd usually be otherwise because she knows there's a town roleblocker in the game. and by extension she'd know that having only 1 surviving scum is complete suicide

so the only way this is a lose is if I'm somehow horribly unbelievably wrong about sthar here

and now that I think about it that also works for sthar bc he would have known the same thing

so

↑ sthar8 wrote:

↑ pieguyn wrote:which jason wagon is this? I can go back and compile per-page VCs for it if you want. although if it's the one from D4, now that I look at it, it never got past one vote (Egg).

And Trojan. His vote only stuck for two posts, even though he had a couple of other posts declaring that he was hard set on lynching jason. And Delta was pushing hard for the action claims, although he might have been doing the same thing I was.

The wagon looks really good for boon, and I think nobody else.

How does this look good for me? I was on Jason the majority of Day 1.

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I was under major consideration to getting roleblocked the night Bins did and the no kill happened. I'm pushing for TH and Egg only because I'm pretty sure the rest of you guys are town, and I'm not quite sure which of the two of them are scum. I'm certain scum is there, though. My team thinks Egg should have been lynched days ago, and I believe TH is more scum. Please, my team used tokens to get me a town slot; I'm far too easy of a potential random lynch to risk being scum here, especially with Pieguyn here who's seen my scum game for the umpteenth time recently.

↑ Boonskiies wrote:I was under major consideration to getting roleblocked the night Bins did and the no kill happened.

Sadly, I don't think I can go by that. Who knows what STD did the night he was killed? Would it really have been weird of him not to block you? Not as weird as Jason deciding not to protect STD.

Oh, I meant the night the No Kill happened. There was a very likely chance he was going to RB me.

Clearly, I can't read today.

I'm not sure why you're bringing this up, though. Okay, maybe STD was contemplating blocking you the night he blocked Bins. Are you saying scum did a no-kill to frame you, and ended up framing Bins instead?

I don't think me specifically, but I was definitely one of the more likely people to be RB'd. That gambit from my slot would have been ridiculous to try.

If you were scum thinking you might be RBed, then all the MORE reason for you to pull the no-kill gambit, in hopes of making the RBer claim. The sooner you find and kill the RBer, the better. (I still don't think scum had any idea that STD was the RBer, until he officially said so.)

You're not helping your case here, Boon.

How many of you guys had any inkling that STD might be an RBer, before he officially said so? Don't tell me I was the only one stupid enough not to figure it out...

I didn't at all. If I did, I probably wouldn't have town read Mala.

I had no idea that STD was a roleblocker.

Boon does bring up an interesting point. Would Boon's team really spend tokens to give him a scumslot? I'm not trying to be insulting or anything, I'm just saying that Boon seems to act completely at random and that's not a good plan for scum.

↑ Boonskiies wrote:Please, my team used tokens to get me a town slot; I'm far too easy of a potential random lynch to risk being scum here, especially with Pieguyn here who's seen my scum game for the umpteenth time recently.

you didn't think to mention this earlier? I would expect you should have mentioned something like this before.

you're actually a lot more subdued than I would expect from you as town in general, really