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Blinded by snow makes kind of sense

Urban dictionary says it means to persuade or deceive. Maybe overwhelmingly.

Whelp I am completely still up for this since dunnstral has yet to convince me that he looked into what I wanted him to yesterday.

hebichan wrote:

Lynch MariaR

Whelp I am completely still up for this since dunnstral has yet to convince me that he looked into what I wanted him to yesterday.

Hold up I actually think she's town

In post 2091, Assemblerotws wrote:Also, what is "snowing"? I'm relatively new here and haven't yet fully absorbed the lingo.

It's a weather term. Like "clear" is an innocent man, "snowed" is when mafia blindsides town, "clouding the thread" is where a mafia "fogs up the water" so to speak by being confusing in the thread.

In post 1700, hebichan wrote:

In post 1699, MariaR wrote:

In post 1698, hebichan wrote:

In post 1697, MariaR wrote:

In post 1695, ActionDan wrote:

In post 1691, MariaR wrote:If you don't think there's scum in A2 and Cabd the only joke here is you~ Plus you're voting town so.

Why is there scum in A2 and Cabd? Which one would you guess to be scum?

A2

So key V A2 was scum v scum?

Yes? Why ask this if I sr them I clearly think it was scumvscum >_>

Because I'm asking why you read it that way.

Sooooooo are you actually going to address the odd reads she was giving off yesterday?

We didn't touch on that, I'll ask her for you

In post 2055, Firebringer wrote: It was probably former but I don't think anyone wanted to lynch you?
Can you point to where this was?

In post 2073, Assemblerotws wrote: The only people who suspected you in the last 10 pages of pre-dance were Priscilla, Giga (flipped town), RC (flipped town), and keyen (flipped scum). Absolutely nobody voiced any suspicion of you D1 that I could see.
Unlike you, I believe that if you're town the second theory is more likely to be correct. Max had a strong suspicion of Shirou, who I was starting to suspect anyway.

Basically yes, the voices of dissent started right about here. Overall there weren't that many, but they were by far the loudest at the time. Most are gone yes (including for this purpose the replaced out MBC), but I still think that they were there, without that much pushback aside from A2 simply wanting Key gone most (and well, Hebi picking me in the end of course) shows that I am wagon material.

It could also be that Shiro is scum and scum wanted to kill off a shiro voter. Ofc, that same logic would apply to firebringer voters too, which would make Cabd/A2 an obvious target (caveat being their alignments both being town)

In post 2064, Firebringer wrote:

In post 2060, ActionDan wrote:

In post 2056, Firebringer wrote:I townread Priscilla then. Didn't have a read on vecna but thought i would eventually. Maxous I townread but I can't remember what for. And you I thought were Town but I think it was just consensus everyone was saying you were Town, I disliked quite a few of your posts but I wrote it off as style differences.

I was more concerned with Giga dancing with someone at that point than the gentlemen, Giga was being extremely scummy imo and trying to hard too do Town things.

I also thought key would be useless Town like in last game with him where I think he protected scum all game.

If so, why in 572 did you suggest Key to go if at the least you didn't have a read on Vecna and thought key was town (if useless)? If you town read priscila why did you question both RC and Key about it in 498 and 534? If you town read priscila and scum read giga, why did you state that Priscila/giga was a good pair in 1270?

Dan I am going to be honest here, I think ur just asking me stupid questions to look like your doing something.

Cause I swear I answered everyone of these questions.
But I'll answer anyways:

I thought key would be inactive and easily pocketed by any scum pair so leaving him seemed like best to me for pragmatic reasons which is why even though I tr him over vecna I thought vecna was more useful to keep.

I asked rc for his reasons tr Priscilla cause i was too and didn't have anything to put it to words beyond attitude.

And given my impression of priscilla I was thinking her paired with Giga would give least amount of chance of Giga pocketing her partner since i thought she was getting a partner anyways might as well be someone who blindly townread them.

I wouldn't say they are "stupid questions" when they elucidate your thought process. Speaking of:

I don't think it's a particularly town thought process to immediately recommend someone you townread (useless, easily pocketed or otherwise) to die off over a person you don't have a read on besides thinking you'd be certain to get one later. If I were in that situation I would actually try and bother to try and read Vecna at that point before posting "Key?" in that instance, since at the very least that would be a disservice to Key if you thought he was town. Especially since when conversing with RC there he also suggested Cabd as his #2 for explicitly being scummy and you immediately voiced your disapproval by claiming he was town. Sort of would make people get the wrong idea about why you'd post key in that instance.

I don't buy that you asked RC about his townread of Priscila to give words to your feeling of Priscila. The exchange reads more as a desire to judge RC by his answer. Only a little bit later, you asked Key the same question, which granted, it deserved to be asked of him then imo, but I highly doubt you would have done so for the same reason.

That last part is understandable

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Dunnstral I have the capability to not death tunnel with a one-track mind, the thing you accused me of doing last phase. I haven't stopped thinking you're scum. I spent most of the game doing so, and I hope players in the game don't forget that easily. I haven't been going around saying you're town, have I?

In post 2108, ActionDan wrote:I don't think it's a particularly town thought process to immediately recommend someone you townread

Hello my name is firebringer.

In post 1654, Maxous wrote:Lol, whoops.

Sorry guys.

VOTE: Shiro

In post 1990, Maxous wrote:Guys, this is getting tiring to read through.
Play nice please.

I'm town because the dead scum was laughing at my shit reads.
Probably the lamest town defence I've had in a while but when life gives you lemons etc.

I agree it likely means Priscila!town too.

As of now I'm thinking a Shiro lynch but if we're going to intermission I'm going to sort out my reads on everyone in the PT anyway.

In post 2073, Assemblerotws wrote:Max had a strong suspicion of Shirou, who I was starting to suspect anyway.
VOTE: Shirou

In post 2007, Shiro wrote:

that what I am trying to do but RC here is being uncooperative

@Shiro would you consider switching to this color, your text is nearly unreadable to me.

@Pri

In post 2110, Shiro wrote:

Oh my it seems I am having some heat. I am kinda giggling here about the killing max because he was suspecting me, like I was giving some sort of care about his read that didn't exist.

In post 1654, Maxous wrote:Lol, whoops.

Sorry guys.

VOTE: Shiro

In post 1990, Maxous wrote:Guys, this is getting tiring to read through.
Play nice please.

I'm town because the dead scum was laughing at my shit reads.
Probably the lamest town defence I've had in a while but when life gives you lemons etc.

I agree it likely means Priscila!town too.

As of now I'm thinking a Shiro lynch but if we're going to intermission I'm going to sort out my reads on everyone in the PT anyway.

I mean his reasons were scary. Had to get rid of him

In post 2073, Assemblerotws wrote:Max had a strong suspicion of Shirou, who I was starting to suspect anyway.
VOTE: Shirou

Like this here is pretty much someone confirming themselves as scum, they are trying to find an easy place to put a vote and paint something with all the sugary extra bits in the world, pray tell what were those "SERIOUS" suspicions maxous had and when you are at it do tell me what were you starting to suspect yourself.

You claimed Mint was appeasing in pre-game for tentatively accepting the "don't partner off immediately" plan, but appeasement would not have been that good a play from a scum lurker, and that's the only explanation you ever offered for your scumread on Mint. By your own logic, you are scum. If Max didn't see that on reread, I'll eat my sock because I don't have a hat.

Okay, here for real now.

Dunnstral - MariaR
Firebringer - Shiro
Cabd - A2
Priscila - Mint Berry Crunch Assemblerotws
ActionDan - hebichan

5 Pairings. 3 of these are 100% confirmed to be town-town pairings. Most likely two of them are scum-town pairings, but it's technically possible it's 4 and 1.


We technically only have... two lynches until "lylo"?

I think?

Lynching a town-town pair would make it
T-T
T-T
T-S
T-S

Lynch another T-T setup and then it's...

T-T
T-S
T-S

which means 6 alive, 4 to vote. SO MYLO actually.

And this assumes nobody gets hot headed and just suicides. (Which is antitown here bw so plz don't TIA)

Technically one of the pairings being S-S doesn't actually change the math here.


Is all of this correct so far?

In post 1774, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Please just lynch Dunnstral and Mint Berry, thanks.

Of note, this was LLD's last post. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of me, but Hebi can probably articulate that if LLD wanted me dead my name woulda been there.

I'm gonna try to basically rank the remaining pairs including my own with most to least likely to be scum. That's the best way I have to try and get engaged into the game again. I wasn't expecting Penguin to die overnight; I was gonna stop playing patty-cake with A2 ITT and use her as a sounding board. Meh.

FYI: if you're gonna walk out; announce it ITT before actually doing it and let your partner braindump. Or, you know, just fucking don't and let lynches form instead so there's votes and accountability.

In post 2118, Cabd wrote:Of note, this was LLD's last post.

Lld died because a townie suicided unprompted

I'm quite aware, thank you. It doens't mean that those were not her last set of reads.

Them being her last set of reads doesn't make them relevant

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