Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

[Zoronos]

Pew pew secret day SK kill Daveasz pew pew
Wait I already did that.
Shit I’m bad at being an SK.

[the worst]

in fairness it fooled me

pedit: lolsame

[ruru]

If he claimed cop he was getting quickhammered

[ruru]

Mathdino unsorted, wanna sort him to get better reads about the gamestate
HeWhoSwims conftown
ofrhz town
ruru town
the worst unsortable for me
Zoronos town but tired of him
davesaz scumlean
BlackStar null
HitAlt scumlean

[the worst]

was ready for it dw

[Mathdino]

I mean that clearly doesn't reflect his newfound alliance with Hitalt against the evil unsortable town leaders

[the worst]

he hypo inno'd bstizzle like 50 posts before lel

[the worst]

If one more person fucks up their hypo inno we shld prolly massclaim

[Mathdino]

Disagree, there are 7 solid hypo innos currently

Also he obviously only picked blackstar cuz 2 other people did
I'm peeved Zoronos was so set on him being the cop

[the worst]

kinda blanked on how many people are in this game for a sec.

[davesaz]

TBH the whole concept of hypo inno is questionable. For it to be plausible it has to be on at least a null, and if reads are organic at all it isn't going to hold up anyway. You're stuck calling someone town when you don't really believe it, or choosing someone you were already townreading to which the question is why would you hypothetically cop them.

A cop worth the name can work a scum->town read change into conversation pretty easily and it's rare that an inno is worth sacrificing a PR for anyway.

[ruru]

xd

[the worst]

we shld talk about hypo innos post-game

[HitAlt]

We should also say that my reads might be brilliant after all.
In the sense that every single one of them was upside down then?
It's still good for consistency to know that anything I say is in reverse..

[Zoronos]

Disagree, there are 7 solid hypo innos currently

Also he obviously only picked blackstar cuz 2 other people did
I'm peeved Zoronos was so set on him being the cop

I never said he was the cop.
I thought he might have been the vig.

[Zoronos]

So, Math, has your opinion on Pintu’s alignment changed, or do you still feel he’s scum?

[Mathdino]

No change
I want the hammer though
Symbolic, taking responsibility, etc
And I wanna make sure pintu says his piece, need to ask some things

[Mathdino]

And yeah my bad
Anyway stay course, remember that pintuscum is ironically townier after getting lynched than he is before

We should use the remaining time for everyone to go over last minute reads
I'll probably end it in 48

[Zoronos]

I’m surprised you mixed up my take on Pintu’s role.
But given his claim, you were right, he is either VT or scum.

I expected a claim there. Though long ago I once joked with someone that “give me a minute to write up my claim” was synonymous with “please wait, crafting lies...”

But scum-Pintu really has no choice here, he must claim VT. The probability of winning if he dies but exposes a PR is much lower than if he claims VT and possibly lives.

HitAlt: do you think Pintu is town or scum here? I feel like your last post implied the latter but I’m not super clear.

[the worst]

math liek

[Mathdino]

I’m surprised you mixed up my take on Pintu’s role.
But given his claim, you were right, he is either VT or scum.

I expected a claim there. Though long ago I once joked with someone that “give me a minute to write up my claim” was synonymous with “please wait, crafting lies...”

But scum-Pintu really has no choice here, he must claim VT. The probability of winning if he dies but exposes a PR is much lower than if he claims VT and possibly lives.

HitAlt: do you think Pintu is town or scum here? I feel like your last post implied the latter but I’m not super clear.

Meh it's late and I'm phoneposting, I don't keep a list of claims and anticlaims

He couldn't have been stalling because no daytalk pt

Agreed on him having to claim VT. The pr softclaims got on my nerves tbh

It doesn't matter sorting pintu right now imo
We have support for him in a way that we don't elsewhere, and he's our 3rd claim today
I'm primarily concerned about getting thoughts out about the rest
Especially from pintu

[Mathdino]

I mean to be clear I'm still scumreading him
I just don't think it's worth debating with people offwagon on whether he's scum
He's getting lynched

[the worst]

I'm more focused on finding pictures of dinosaurs holding hammers than trying to prove his innocence

[the worst]

update: there aren't many options

[Zoronos]

It doesn't matter sorting pintu right now imo
We have support for him in a way that we don't elsewhere, and he's our 3rd claim today

a) I'm not sure that's specifically true.
Both because I intend to keep an open mind so if what he comes back with is exceptionally towny I'd unvote and because it is entirely possible we could achieve another consensus alternative lynch in the time we have.
Most of my town reads are present and voting in my lynch pool and that suggests to me we're not boxed into specifically Pintu if he reveals a suddenly towny mindset.

b) I'm not sure where you get to 3rd claim, even counting HitAlt's implicit claim.
But I also don't care and am not sure it's conducive to finding scum to debate it.

c) I think getting other people more clearly on record before we move to a flip is helpful for future days.
My initial reaction to that HitAlt post was 'Huh, HitAlt is scum reading Pintu now, or at least predicting a scum flip'. But there's enough ambiguity in that post I'd like to clarify that is in fact what he intended.