Prey Mafia - Game Over

[Persivul]

Town to scum:

mcqueen
Elbirn
Varsoon
BEF

Going to bed now, will give the reasons tomorrow.

[BrightEyedFish]

Elbirn's reaction to hammering A50 is scummier than the actual hammer vote.

[BrightEyedFish]

Id someone ISOsElbirn posts in 100 years from now, his first few posts of this day will stick out like a sore thumb. Totally different tone. Now is that because he is town and regrets the hammer, or is he scum going for AtE because he wanted to trade himself for A50?

[Elbirn]

I offer as rebuttal an audible fart noise

[BrightEyedFish]

ok to summarize:

-> i'm pretty sure persivul and a50 are town (or at least, that a50 is not scum)

-> there's two scum in {elbirn/varsoon/bef/mcqueen}

-> people in this group repeatedly trying to lynch bef makes me think he's probably not scum

so 2/3 scum are in {elbirn/varsoon/mcqueen} imo

Skitter was probably on to something here thus the NK. I'm leaning town on Persivul even though he is the only living member from the neighbourhood but I trust Skitters reads.

[BrightEyedFish]

EBWOP

Only *other living member of the hood.

[Persivul]

Town to scum:

mcqueen
Elbirn
Varsoon
BEF

Going to bed now, will give the reasons tomorrow.

First, I have no result. I'm out of shots. I didn't claim that in order to try to draw the NK away from skitter.

mcqueen - this is based on the role. He actually confirmed he's loved, and I have a hard time thinking that a scum was made loved, particularly in the current meta of designing games assuming that towns suck. Based on his posting, he's not particularly townie or scummy. After a couple days that's scummy in itself, which is why I checked him. But I really can't get past the Loved. That's like 99% town.

Elbirn - based on shared reads, and particularly that he's the only player to be consistently on BEF, and didn't abandon that after the zito lynch - see below.

Varsoon - his posting is bizarre. It's frequently like he's not even reading the game or is confusing games. I don't find that scummy per se, but after mcqueen and elbirn, POE makes him scum. He was on the implosion lynch, but was on it early - looks like scum who was distancing, then the wagon moved too fast for him to get off.

BEF - Scum. After the redtea/enter kill, he was sure there was scum in the hood, and came out gunning for me. Zito was lynched. Next day, he should have been even more sure that I was scum, as we were the only two left in the hood. But, he said he had no interest in lynching me. This makes absolutely no sense if he's town. If he's scum, it makes a lot of sense, because once he's the last hood alive, he knows he's an auto lynch. Since I've been pushing that angle, he knows he can't reverse himself and go back to pushing me today, so he's using skitter's read on me as an excuse. Also he was the last person on the implosion lynch, which looks like a bus.

Does anyone really believe that mod made a 5 person hood that was all town?

[BrightEyedFish]

I can go back to pushing you if I want. But I have you as a TR. Alot has happened since the lovers were killed and I was wrong with my reads on both of them.
Why is changing my read on someone a scum tell?

[mcqueen]

VOTE: Varsoon slot needs some pressure.

[Elbirn]

We're in lylo, pressure doesnt exist. You either want the man dead or you don't. If neither of you/varsoon are scum then scum wins the game here

[mcqueen]

You’re right UNVOTE:

[mcqueen]

Is it really Varsoon/BEF though??

[Varsoon]

Yeah, I'm not willing to believe mcqueen is loved scum while I'm voteless town. Seems unlikely.
Dollars to donuts, BEF is scum here. I really don't like how he's like "Skitter was prob right" and then Percivul pegs him as scum and he's like "I can take away that townread on you!"
It just strikes as weird posturing to me. Vote's there for all intents and purposes, just don't wanna rush LYLO, though.

[Elbirn]

While we're talking probabilities about the setup though

Enter gets 1 shot commute
Varsoon gets...Commute until he says stop?

[BrightEyedFish]

Yeah, I'm not willing to believe mcqueen is loved scum while I'm voteless town. Seems unlikely.
Dollars to donuts, BEF is scum here. I really don't like how he's like "Skitter was prob right" and then Percivul pegs him as scum and he's like "I can take away that townread on you!"
It just strikes as weird posturing to me. Vote's there for all intents and purposes, just don't wanna rush LYLO, though.

You're votes not there until it 's there. I don't know what you want from me. It seems like everyone wants me to SR persivul yet no one else is voting him. And since I have him as a TR that makes me scum??

It feels like a reverse-psychological type of push on me but it won't work.

I also don't like how mcqueen's vote on Varsoon didn't get speed lynched. The vote was up for around 3 hours and probably enough time for the 2 remaining scum to hammer.

[Varsoon]

Enter also got a neighborhood and a lover.

As far as not getting turbo-lynched, if Mcqueen is scum, then there is no 2 scum to speed lynch me. The fact you're angling mcqueen as town here without even considering the alternative makes me think you have more info than me.

[BrightEyedFish]

Enter also got a neighborhood and a lover.

As far as not getting turbo-lynched, if Mcqueen is scum, then there is no 2 scum to speed lynch me. The fact you're angling mcqueen as town here without even considering the alternative makes me think you have more info than me.

I was thinking you were the scum irt McQueen's vote.

[Persivul]

Dollars to donuts, BEF is scum here. I really don't like how he's like "Skitter was prob right" and then Percivul pegs him as scum and he's like "I can take away that townread on you!"

Damn, you're making this difficult. I saw that too, but didn't mention it to see if anyone else would.

[Elbirn]

If mcqueen is town because loved scum doesnt exist
And if BEF/percival cant be scum together

Then the team is necessarily either varsoon/bef or varsoon/percivul

So I'm gonna go read and see how Varsoon fits with implosion, pro tip he probably doesnt because he hid his vote away all game

[Elbirn]

Enter also got a neighborhood and a lover.

As far as not getting turbo-lynched, if Mcqueen is scum, then there is no 2 scum to speed lynch me. The fact you're angling mcqueen as town here without even considering the alternative makes me think you have more info than me.

This post also makes no sense from town-varsoon conftowning McQueen for being loved

[Elbirn]

Yeah, I'm not willing to believe mcqueen is loved scum while I'm voteless town. Seems unlikely.

Actually wait
Mcqueen being "conf town" is contingent on Varsoon being town + setup spec?

[mcqueen]

mod- v/la until wednesday

Noted.

quick update
- i have a townread on persivul rn. my strongest read, although i'd like to check his iso once again before being sure of myself.
- unsure of elbirn, but his play has seemed town.
- that leaves bef and varsoon. i'd rather lynch bef today.

[Varsoon]

@Elbirn: I wouldn't say any of us are 'conf' town, actually--just likelier town or less likely town. Odds aren't that stacked against us, though. It's a 50/50 shot to hit scum and we've got days of play to inform us.

[BrightEyedFish]

- that leaves bef and varsoon. i'd rather lynch bef today.

Then why did you vote Varsoon?

A varsoon/mcqueen team is looking cuter and cuter the more I think about it.

[Elbirn]

A varsoon/mcqueen team is looking cuter and cuter the more I think about it.

Based on what?