Shosh/Titus prob not s/s any more based on recent interactions.
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:11 am
by Shoshin
In post 2099, Egix96 wrote:You have to consider that we weren't yet confirmed to be getting an extension and there wasn't much time left at that time. It seemed to me like the Celica wagon was losing steam and yours was gaining, so I didn't want to risk a no-lynch by leaving my vote where it was.
This doesn't make any sense.
Celica was at three votes, I was at two, and Worm was at four. If you're trying to avoid a no lynch, why didn't you vote for Worm? And how would voting me increase the likelihood of a lynch over keeping your vote on Celica?
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:47 am
by Titus
Sho, can you quote the VCs which you're referencing here?
Vedith's notes
Dr Worm, NorthSideGal, and Celica are all getting fun time prods.
I will suggest to McQueen for an extension after prods have been received / replacements made.
You're all beautiful players \o/
Please let me know if I've made any errors, thank you!
Whatever, if we're thunderdoming this then the choice is obvious for me.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Shoshin
I got Worm's wagon wrong -- he was at three votes when Egix voted me -- but my broader point still holds. When Egix voted me, Celica had three votes while I had two.
Yet Egix says he voted me to prevent a no lynch? That doesn't square with the game at all. Creature had just expressed an unwillingness to lynch me (post 1902). Eyes made it clear that I was one of her top townreads, so she wasn't going to vote me anytime soon. I had recently expressed an openness to voting Celica (starting in post 1836 and continuing up to the point Egix voted me).
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:21 am
by Shoshin
In post 2099, Egix96 wrote:It seemed to me like the Celica wagon was losing steam and yours was gaining, so I didn't want to risk a no-lynch by leaving my vote where it was.
RC/Worm voting me was indication that my wagon had more steam than Celica's? Please explain how you came to this conclusion.
In post 2099, Egix96 wrote:You have to consider that we weren't yet confirmed to be getting an extension and there wasn't much time left at that time. It seemed to me like the Celica wagon was losing steam and yours was gaining, so I didn't want to risk a no-lynch by leaving my vote where it was.
This doesn't make any sense.
Celica was at three votes, I was at two, and Worm was at four. If you're trying to avoid a no lynch, why didn't you vote for Worm? And how would voting me increase the likelihood of a lynch over keeping your vote on Celica?
Why would I vote Wormy if I was townleaning him?
The reason why I thought Celica wasn't likely to be lynched any more was because Cowbells was all like "we're lynching me or Shosh today!" and since there's a chance he's the cop's N1 peek I thought I might as well go along with that.
If I be honest here, I really just get an overall towny feel from his posts. He doesn't seem like he's playing to any sort of scum agenda and, as I showed before, there were a handful of posts of his that showed he wasn't being completely ineffectual.
When I know, you'll know. I've spent most of the thread interacting with you...Since I don't have VCA data, my reads are rough at best.
Reading people's post and actions is usually adequate. VCA should come secndary to that imo.
Well, you've never played with me. I'm best late in games because hard data run my decisions. I play mafia to get better at the former.
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:33 am
by Shoshin
In post 2113, Egix96 wrote:The reason why I thought Celica wasn't likely to be lynched any more was because Cowbells was all like "we're lynching me or Shosh today!" and since there's a chance he's the cop's N1 peek I thought I might as well go along with that.
You don't think there's a chance cop checked me?
Did you see anyone voting RC? Why'd you follow RC without questioning his "1v1" premise?
In post 2113, Egix96 wrote:The reason why I thought Celica wasn't likely to be lynched any more was because Cowbells was all like "we're lynching me or Shosh today!" and since there's a chance he's the cop's N1 peek I thought I might as well go along with that.
You don't think there's a chance cop checked me?
Did you see anyone voting RC? Why'd you follow RC without questioning his "1v1" premise?
No one should answer the first question Shoshin asked.
In post 2113, Egix96 wrote:The reason why I thought Celica wasn't likely to be lynched any more was because Cowbells was all like "we're lynching me or Shosh today!" and since there's a chance he's the cop's N1 peek I thought I might as well go along with that.
You don't think there's a chance cop checked me?
Did you see anyone voting RC? Why'd you follow RC without questioning his "1v1" premise?
Anyone who was voting Cowbells there was risking outing the cop. And that last question, I'm not gonna answer, because I think it's rolefishing.
What did you think of this post when you read it, Egix?
I thought those were empty words.
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:10 am
by Shoshin
In post 2121, Titus wrote:No one should answer the first question Shoshin asked.
Why not?
From the perspective of everyone but the cop, the answer to that question is, "yes." Scum know that cop didn't check them because there wasn't a guilty. And town know don't now who cop checked. As such, it's possible that I was checked.
I'd argue it's more likely I was checked than RC because there's more players with strong townreads on me than RC.