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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:03 pm
by jjh927
TL, you might be on to something there in that his vote there was kinda lazy. I dunno if it necessarily indicates he's scum but it's definitely worth asking him some questions when he next shows up

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:05 pm
by jjh927
Looking at the next stuff on the case those, I think 1102 might actually be one of the towniest posts Elbirn has made

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:05 pm
by jjh927
In post 2101, jjh927 wrote:Looking at the next stuff on the case though, I think 1102 might actually be one of the towniest posts Elbirn has made
ebwop

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:07 pm
by TemporalLich
I put it in the case just in case it was intended to be a shade on mastina

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:07 pm
by Sujimichi
Ok. So, TL scumreads anyone who scumreads/votes him, and mastina is town because Elbirn is openwolf and it's distancing. That's what I got from the catchup. I don't TL makes any sense at all, and probably isn't scum since there is the ability to privately talk during the day.

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:10 pm
by jjh927
Yeah, I'm thinking Elbirn's mastina read over time makes a lot of sense. Early on it was because he interpreted her catchup as an attempt to feign involvement with the game. Which I think it actually was, it's just it comes down to Mastina needing to fake being involved with the game to herself until she actually gets involved with the game. And he started seeing other things that supported his theory of scum!mastina, and when he asked me about why she was town I couldn't give reasons which just added to suspicion overall.

I think Elbirn is most likely town tbh but who does that leave in the POE

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:12 pm
by Sujimichi
I don't think you'll like my answer, but it starts with mastina.

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:12 pm
by jjh927
Yeah I don't like that answer tbh

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:14 pm
by Sujimichi
I'm not sure how you could read any of her recent posting and think she was town to be quite honest.

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:15 pm
by TemporalLich
yeah suji you might just be scum

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:16 pm
by Sujimichi
In post 2109, TemporalLich wrote:yeah suji you might just be scum
It's best if you just be quiet.

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:18 pm
by Elbirn
In post 2101, jjh927 wrote:Looking at the next stuff on the case those, I think 1102 might actually be one of the towniest posts Elbirn has made
All I did was ask you why you townread mastina

You never answered and I REEE'd

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:19 pm
by TemporalLich
In post 2110, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 2109, TemporalLich wrote:yeah suji you might just be scum
It's best if you just be quiet.
VOTE: Sujimichi

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:20 pm
by Elbirn
In post 2112, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 2110, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 2109, TemporalLich wrote:yeah suji you might just be scum
It's best if you just be quiet.
VOTE: Sujimichi
TL if you're town I want you to know that this is not the way to play mafia

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:21 pm
by jjh927
In post 2111, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2101, jjh927 wrote:Looking at the next stuff on the case those, I think 1102 might actually be one of the towniest posts Elbirn has made
All I did was ask you why you townread mastina

You never answered and I REEE'd
Yeah and that's a pretty damn towny thing to do imo

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:22 pm
by Sujimichi
In post 2112, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 2110, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 2109, TemporalLich wrote:yeah suji you might just be scum
It's best if you just be quiet.
VOTE: Sujimichi
This really reinforces my point.

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:24 pm
by Sujimichi
In post 2108, Sujimichi wrote:I'm not sure how you could read any of her recent posting and think she was town to be quite honest.
This was kind of something I wanted you to respond to, jjh. Help me understand how her recent posting comes from town.

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:24 pm
by jjh927
I think I'm benefiting from having to condense things to their bare essentials in order to productively converse with TL but that is just a side effect

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:28 pm
by jjh927
In post 2116, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 2108, Sujimichi wrote:I'm not sure how you could read any of her recent posting and think she was town to be quite honest.
This was kind of something I wanted you to respond to, jjh. Help me understand how her recent posting comes from town.
Fuck not this again

This is proving to be difficult


There is a part of me that wants to point to some mechanical stuff because doing that is the easy way but it's also not doing it properly. But doing it properly makes me vulnerable to being wrong somewhere where I would particularly like to be right

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:31 pm
by jjh927
If I start going the other way;
In post 657, mastina wrote:
In post 369, jjh927 wrote:I feel like you can figure that one out.


Also that is not a confirmed mason pair
Mastina claiming masons is a meme
To be honest the reason it took until basically this page for my scumread of you to be reversed is up until now your lack of commentary on the subject.

Speaking of which: my only other townread is Adorable, who I think might've legit townslipped.

Everyone else is varying degrees of scum, with Korina as scum of scums and TL the obvious partner. Can see almost anyone right now as the third.
This is the only post by mastina which makes me particularly concerned she might be scum

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:31 pm
by TemporalLich
In post 2113, Elbirn wrote:TL if you're town I want you to know that this is not the way to play mafia
i mean it is kinda an omgus

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:32 pm
by TemporalLich
but I fail to see how telling someone to stop posting is not scummy

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:32 pm
by Sujimichi
Menalque has been saying that mastina is a strong town player. I don't believe that posting comes from someone who is a strong town player. So, either mastina is not a strong town player, or mastina is not town. Mechanics play no role in my determining her alignment despite that I may have reason to believe so given her flavor claim.

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:33 pm
by Sujimichi
In post 2120, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 2113, Elbirn wrote:TL if you're town I want you to know that this is not the way to play mafia
i mean it is kinda an omgus
It's not omgus as I said you were town.

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:33 pm
by Sujimichi
In post 2121, TemporalLich wrote:but I fail to see how telling someone to stop posting is not scummy
Becuase your posting is nonsensical and distracting from actually finding scum.