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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:31 am
by Raya36
Official Vote Count 2.03
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Faucaria tigrina "Pebbled Tiger Jaws"




EliminationWith 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate someone.

bob3141
(3): Andresvmb, VP Baltar, NoPowerOverMe
NoPowerOverMe
(1): Billy Pilgrim
Hellbooks
(1): DkKoba
Not Voting
(6): hellbooks, Datisi, bob3141, Testarossa, Iconeum, Alduskkel

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-08-20 07:15:00).


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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:38 am
by NoPowerOverMe
If VP flips scum then Datisi is probably scum. If VP flips town then Datisi is probably town.

So D2 flip Bob, D3 flip VP, D4 flip Tatisi if scum VP.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:40 am
by Raya36
In post 2096, Iconeum wrote:
weekend vla


i'm looking at you kobba
Noted

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:49 am
by Datisi
In post 2101, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If VP flips scum then Datisi is probably scum.
i sometimes really struggle in figuring out how your thought process works.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:18 am
by Billy Pilgrim
In post 2065, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2063, Datisi wrote:ok, so i claim loyal fucking neighborizer that failed to neighborize

you're telling me scum claims PT cop there?
first of all, i knew you were fake claiming the moment you posted it
second, i don't see why not?
Only scenario where this makes sense is if scum had a voyeur parked on Baltar since he was doing the kill to see what roles targeted him and saw that tracker was the result. Now of course thats a possibility, and my paranoid brain is triggered a bit by how he responded to Datisi's original claim. Like, "maybe you were rolestopped or something." But thats probably paranoid because it clearly didn't go through since he wasn't in a neighborhood. Also, immediately jumping to claiming his N1 action makes it feel like he may have known a tracker result was coming. But again, given that Dats was demanding a claim it may have been in response to that.

I'm a bit confused about the exact claim though. Pt cop. I mean thats a weird role without any claimed neighborhoods (not asking for claims, just a potential balance issue that may say something about whether this is real.)

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:39 am
by VP Baltar
In post 2104, Billy Pilgrim wrote:I'm a bit confused about the exact claim though. Pt cop. I mean thats a weird role without any claimed neighborhoods (not asking for claims, just a potential balance issue that may say something about whether this is real.)
So you're suggesting we also have neighbors or masons claim?
Idk about that man.
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I'm flat out assuming from the start that given my role, there have to be neighbors. Datisi's claim actually made sense to me, so it's actually kind of lol that he is a tracker. I feel less annoyed now and I can understand why Dats claimed. Not happy that I'm going to be NK and not be useful (doc me!), but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

I'm very interested in the folks trying to shade my claim or even toe around the edge that I make sense as an elimination today.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:07 am
by Iconeum
In post 2097, DkKoba wrote:ico u know that we just hang baltar if he doesnt die tonight right?
scenario: datisi dies baltar lives

what you do

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:07 am
by DkKoba
im not interested in hanging a role that can be sorted later lmao.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:08 am
by DkKoba
In post 2106, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2097, DkKoba wrote:ico u know that we just hang baltar if he doesnt die tonight right?
scenario: datisi dies baltar lives

what you do
Did i stutter?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:09 am
by Datisi
if i die, nobody touches baltar. don't even look at him the wrong way.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:28 am
by DkKoba
In post 2109, Datisi wrote:if i die, nobody touches baltar. don't even look at him the wrong way.
No <3

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:29 am
by DkKoba
Also choo choo where my hellbooks votes at. The resistance to get this is too great

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:30 am
by DkKoba
imma be real that aldu feels like scum more and more as the game progesses too but ppl wanna townread them! Alas.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:57 am
by NoPowerOverMe
In post 2103, Datisi wrote:
In post 2101, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If VP flips scum then Datisi is probably scum.
i sometimes really struggle in figuring out how your thought process works.
Because you are defending VP. More likely that happens if you are his scum partner than town.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:01 am
by Datisi
i am so confused as to what you think a datisi/baltar team is possibly trying to accomplish by doing that shitshow and locking us both in a PR claim, but okay

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:30 am
by Billy Pilgrim
In post 2105, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2104, Billy Pilgrim wrote:I'm a bit confused about the exact claim though. Pt cop. I mean thats a weird role without any claimed neighborhoods (not asking for claims, just a potential balance issue that may say something about whether this is real.)
So you're suggesting we also have neighbors or masons claim?
Idk about that man.
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I'm flat out assuming from the start that given my role, there have to be neighbors. Datisi's claim actually made sense to me, so it's actually kind of lol that he is a tracker. I feel less annoyed now and I can understand why Dats claimed. Not happy that I'm going to be NK and not be useful (doc me!), but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

I'm very interested in the folks trying to shade my claim or even toe around the edge that I make sense as an elimination today.
I'm not suggesting they claim, I'm just saying that without them being present in game, I'd be surprised by that role. Id be a bit more inclined to believe a claim from those roles and to me it would help resolve your claim, but that said im not suggesting that anyone claim.

I'm not toeing around the edge. Im literally saying its my paranoia brain suggesting that maybe scum had a voyeur that was on you making the night kill and knew that you were tracked but not neighborized.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:32 am
by Billy Pilgrim
In post 2113, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 2103, Datisi wrote:
In post 2101, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If VP flips scum then Datisi is probably scum.
i sometimes really struggle in figuring out how your thought process works.
Because you are defending VP. More likely that happens if you are his scum partner than town.
Did you forget the part where Dats claimed a guilty? Have you ever played scum before? Because I dont understand how you're making reads.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:34 am
by Iconeum
In post 2104, Billy Pilgrim wrote:I'm a bit confused about the exact claim though. Pt cop. I mean thats a weird role without any claimed neighborhoods (not asking for claims, just a potential balance issue that may say something about whether this is real.)
this is one of the reasons i think it's a fake claim

it was in response to a role that MAKES a pt

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:35 am
by Iconeum
datisi v VP is not S/S

ever

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:46 am
by NoPowerOverMe
Then why is Datisi saying not to lynch VP?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:49 am
by Datisi
because... i am town... and i'm very confident on baltar being town... and i don't want y'all to kill him if i'm dead...

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:54 am
by NoPowerOverMe
And if you believe that I have a bridge in China i want to sell you..l

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:21 am
by VP Baltar
In post 2115, Billy Pilgrim wrote:I'm not toeing around the edge. Im literally saying its my paranoia brain suggesting that maybe scum had a voyeur that was on you making the night kill and knew that you were tracked but not neighborized.
I wasn't talking about you really

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:22 am
by VP Baltar
Ico and Tess, you opposed to yeeting Bob today?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:43 am
by VP Baltar
In post 2091, Testarossa wrote:Why GB and not anyone else on the janko wagon? You had Billy and NPOM as possible partners for Snow/bob yesterday and your reads might have changed (at least regarding Billy as I figure by one of your posts yesterday).
Actually, my read on Billy softened quite a bit. I said as much I believe. NPOM is scummy to me, but also says stupid shit. I fully expect him to get resolved before the end of the game.

If you look at the janko wagon, you have obv scum Bob early on and camped there to save his bacon. The next most obvious scum slots on that wagon are either GB or Aldus. I didn't find Aldus' hammer scummy (perhaps even townie given it was needed to advance the game). GB made a ton of sense to investigate.