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In post 1947, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 1937, teacher wrote:I can see IV as possibly being with Kerset (there’s nothing like a fake hammer test to possibly spare a partner you were bussing), and I’m willing to go there. I’m pretty strong on that with four claims, we should lynch in the claim pool rather than go outside it. I’m quite positive scum will never shoot Kerset, so would prefer to resolve that given my read of the claim and the wagon (including a gut town on IV that I’m willing to compromise on)

i mean im not willing to lunch the ascetic or miller without *other* reasons why they might be scum. claiming those early on is... fine?

and yeah i could kinda buy saudade orchestrating the fake hammer to deflect pressure and use the claim gambit. dunno if i buy that coming from iv. but it could be all three of them. while i understand your point about a posible interpretation of menal's post being "if iv is scum theres no way im also scum" and that scum rarely actually scumslips. but i already dont like menal and when of my top scumreads scumclaims for himself and one of my other top scumreads, im gonna give in to confbias 9 times out of 10.

In post 2014, Saudade wrote:imagine a game where Kerset would actually actively participate in the ongoing game discussions pursue scumtells and towntells instead of victimizing himself and crying for 70 pages how the authority (me) is out there to get him with watashi no big dick(ego)

In post 2106, bob3141 wrote:oh thats just rvs vote. Im prety sure nDMath is town. If he was scum i woudl have expected him to do more

In post 1612, bob3141 wrote:

In post 1608, innocentvillager wrote:why would I claim VT if I was scum, I’m probably getting eliminated anyway

So you could say that.

And the fact you have said makes it obvous you are very much aware.

In post 1296, bob3141 wrote:Scum near always claims a pr when run up day one. Scum dont panic as they have 2 players talking to them in the pt.


Show me where before you have seen scum in the game from day one claim vt. And most importantly show me the ratio between scum claiming vt day one and town claiming vt day one.

In post 2110, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1296, bob3141 wrote:Scum near always claims a pr when run up day one. Scum dont panic as they have 2 players talking to them in the pt.


Show me where before you have seen scum in the game from day one claim vt. And most importantly show me the ratio between scum claiming vt day one and town claiming vt day one.

In fact the way you’re treating IV and Kerset is almost in direct contradiction to what you wrote here.

In post 2109, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1612, bob3141 wrote:

In post 1608, innocentvillager wrote:why would I claim VT if I was scum, I’m probably getting eliminated anyway

So you could say that.

And the fact you have said makes it obvous you are very much aware.

Bob, this conflicts directly with what you said in #1296 of Mini Normal 2157, where you bashed me directly for doubting a VT Claim near death D1. Why should I not Scum Read this?

In post 2109, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1612, bob3141 wrote:

In post 1608, innocentvillager wrote:why would I claim VT if I was scum, I’m probably getting eliminated anyway

So you could say that.

And the fact you have said makes it obvous you are very much aware.

Bob, this conflicts directly with what you said in #1296 of Mini Normal 2157, where you bashed me directly for doubting a VT Claim near death D1. Why should I not Scum Read this?

In post 1956, teacher wrote:

In post 1944, shellyc wrote:i am *alright* with a kerset lim but at the same time I'm afraid they are actually doctor

Gated doc in a game that lasts at most 5 nights = pretty weak Pr.

We have two anti-town town roles claimed, implying that town must have some decently strong PRs including some kind of investigative (Miller)

If town has two strong PRa plus gated doc (the kind of power that would justify two antitown roles), then scum likely has at least gated rolestopper.

Given suspicions of Kerset, scum do not shoot but instead block (at least when town reads become sufficiently common that they are worried about overlap).

This is why I think town has to resolve the Kerset slot. I don’t think scum does it for us. And I don’t think waiting for later makes it easier to eliminate a claimed PR.

In post 2090, Tayl0r Swift wrote:shelly is still town tho even if shellys posts atm are pretty weird.

In post 2120, bob3141 wrote:I feel like a teacher vote

VOTE: teacher

Lets see if teh wagons stay stale

In post 2112, bob3141 wrote:

In post 2110, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1296, bob3141 wrote:Scum near always claims a pr when run up day one. Scum dont panic as they have 2 players talking to them in the pt.


Show me where before you have seen scum in the game from day one claim vt. And most importantly show me the ratio between scum claiming vt day one and town claiming vt day one.

In fact the way you’re treating IV and Kerset is almost in direct contradiction to what you wrote here.

One he didnt claim at l-1.

Two straight away he tried to play the scum woudl claim vt card.

Third there was no pr claim preceding it.


Odds of running two town pr in row are low. Best odds in that situation is alwasy to claim vt. Hard bit is determining which.

Also look at my last scum game. My partner claimed vt. See how involved i was in saving him