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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:43 pm
by fferyllt
Also, S_S I'd like to hear what you want to say about your reads list approaches.

(And I'm going to pull Syrs thoughts from the PT when the game hits a lull)

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:44 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 2092, SirCakez wrote:Trying to play the game
This is uh not a very helpful answer. I'm playing the game. I can't NOT be playing the game, unless I, you know, replaced out.

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:44 pm
by Bell
Read up on all his scum games and about half his town games.
I went back and read all his posts to make sure it was missing. It wasn’t, he’s made two game health posts that are styled differently than they were then. But those posts seem totally absent from his scum games. He seems a little more indecisive as scum except when he gets a freebie then he seems to latch on.

Hmm. You’ve played with Nahdia before and used meta on them as scum.
DS, Nahdia what do you think of each other?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:45 pm
by Nahdia
...in what sense?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:47 pm
by fferyllt
In post 2099, Cabd wrote:
In post 2096, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2087, Cabd wrote:
In post 2084, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2081, Cabd wrote:I uh... I think there might not be that many more hoods, given the lack of response to you so far, ffery.
is it time for us to solve your hood too?
It would have been if Taylor's launch into space hadn't been the imposter.
Discuss, please.
I can, but it will have MAJOR negative utility if done so.

Are you okay with that?
If you can explain what Tayl0rs launch into space does for the solving urgency of your hood without major negative utility I'd like to hear that, but I can live.

Just know that I'm getting uncomfortable about ~stuff~.

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:47 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 2100, fferyllt wrote:Also, S_S I'd like to hear what you want to say about your reads list approaches.
In general my readlists are bottom-up, that is, I get some reads, and then when someone asks me to compile them, I list the ones that come to mind. Depending on the state of the game and how I'm feeling, I may or may not include everyone in tiers including a null tier.

In this game, for the longest time I couldn't get into it, so a bottom-up readlist would have put pretty much everyone in a null tier. Instead I did a top-down readlist, where I forced myself to skim everyone's ISO and report on my feelings, even if they were totally null.

I usually try to avoid stuff like that because when I force reads they come out garbage, but I tried to make sure I was only forcing myself to look at the ISO's, not forcing myself to come to a conclusion (and I reported on very weak conclusions because those are better than nothing).

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:49 pm
by Cabd
In post 2104, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2099, Cabd wrote:
In post 2096, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2087, Cabd wrote:
In post 2084, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2081, Cabd wrote:I uh... I think there might not be that many more hoods, given the lack of response to you so far, ffery.
is it time for us to solve your hood too?
It would have been if Taylor's launch into space hadn't been the imposter.
Discuss, please.
I can, but it will have MAJOR negative utility if done so.

Are you okay with that?
If you can explain what Tayl0rs launch into space does for the solving urgency of your hood without major negative utility I'd like to hear that, but I can live.

Just know that I'm getting uncomfortable about ~stuff~.
I want to reduce your worry about ~stuff~ so let's get those 3-4 town reads outside your ilk and myself, and then I'll lay out the master plan.

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:49 pm
by fferyllt
The Scummonings: Day 2

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:52 pm
by Bell
In post 2103, Nahdia wrote:...in what sense?
All of them. What do you think about their approach to you this game? I didn’t even know you played together before because you didn’t seem all that familiar.

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:52 pm
by Alisae
fferyllt - town
midwaybear - town
Something_Smart - town
petapan - town
Tammy - town
Jake The Wolfie - town
Gamma Emerald - town

{Bell, Cabd} 1 scum
{Nahdia, Diamond} 1 scum

Here's my thing with Diamond
I can't tell if he's scum and pushing people dishonestly and just trying to spin whatever he can as scummy or if he's just town or if he is just town and plays this way like his jake push sucked and he called me Jake's scum buddy a bunch of times.
Nahdia makes sense to kill Syr
it could be theater but I don't think it is

Taylor could have signalled to Cakez but this isn't something im super confident in?

and Bulge/Pooky I just don't have reads on

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:57 pm
by Nahdia
In post 2108, Bell wrote:
In post 2103, Nahdia wrote:...in what sense?
All of them. What do you think about their approach to you this game? I didn’t even know you played together before because you didn’t seem all that familiar.
yeah we go back. our first game together was a marathon where we were the scumteam and we perfect gamed the town, iirc. we've played together here and there, my memory is that they're perfectly competent. good at getting me to townread them when they're scum.

but that's all stale. i am such a wildly different player than i was before my string of hiatuses, for myriad reasons. i generally expect the same to be true of others, but maybe i shouldn't?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:59 pm
by petapan
In post 2040, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im only here because I've been socially isolated for the last 7 months and I'm very lonely
well i'm glad you're here pooky

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:00 pm
by Bell
People’s personalities don’t change much over time. They may become more or less proficient they may flip ideologies etc, but underneath all that they’re probably samish.

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:00 pm
by Alisae
i feel socially isolated

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:01 pm
by Bell
All is neighborless folks should form our own neighborhood.
I have a dog house if you’d like to join.

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:01 pm
by Alisae
i want a neighborhood :(

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:05 pm
by Alisae
VOTE: bulge

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:06 pm
by Nahdia
DS seems to think he can read me which is... well, maybe at one time he could. in 2016 i was very difficult to execute. in 2020, im mostly executionbait though tend to manage a little leeway from reputation or something.

i havent really looked closely at him this game though. his day 2 open on me is difficult to parse because on one hand it's a very easy, opportunistic thing for a scum player to do but the reason it's those things is because it's not nonsensicle for town to want to pressure my slot too. what felt fishy about it though was that he states his reason being that im lurking which, ive said this before multiple times this game, i do take some issue with because it's not as if im devoid of content. once i make that point, he comes around with a few random posts he takes issue which, whatever. his having specific things to call out and his attacking me for "not giving reassurances" seem at odds with each other to me though. so im looking back through his ISO to see how i feel about it i guess.
Bell wrote:People’s personalities don’t change much over time. They may become more or less proficient they may flip ideologies etc, but underneath all that they’re probably samish.
i kinda disagree actually

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:09 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 2115, Alisae wrote:i want a neighborhood :(
will you be my neighbor? <3

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:10 pm
by Alisae
In post 2118, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2115, Alisae wrote:i want a neighborhood :(
will you be my neighbor? <3
Yes

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:10 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 2111, petapan wrote:well i'm glad you're here pooky
I'm also glad you're here peta.

if only we were scum together again :3 you could shoot me early ^_^

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:11 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 2119, Alisae wrote:Yes
ok I'm going to ask for a private notes PT and you get one too and hopefully we will be able to talk through that.

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:11 pm
by Alisae
In post 2121, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2119, Alisae wrote:Yes
ok I'm going to ask for a private notes PT and you get one too and hopefully we will be able to talk through that.
alright

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:12 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
excellent

sometimes FG messes these things up and we might end up in the same notes PT but even if it doesn't work out it will be fun to compare them in the postgame to see if you heard me :3

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:16 pm
by fferyllt
I love playing with you SO MUCH Pooky. I'm glad I returned while you're active again.