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In post 2099, Noraa wrote:AGH ugh. this thread blew up. y'all needa calm ur butts.

84 posts per day btw

mcat can I ask your purpose of why you wanted everyone's reads before you started giving content

the more I think about it the more it just looked like you scoping out where to push for today

Yeah ok yeah ok I might just be at a place with work/sleep right now where catching up to this isn't feasible so time for fast and loose Johnny. No more mister reading guy.

It goes purple>Gamma>mcat>tracy>gamma>uncrown>infinity and if you disagree I would like a reason

In post 2103, kookiemonster wrote:purple>Gamma>mcat>tracy>uncrown>infinity

Copypasta issue

what list is that

In post 2041, Uncrowned wrote:like everyone's reasons for TRing gamma in particular were just... no offense kinda trash imo? He was playing such a null game D1 which lead to everyone just handing him TRs for... reasons? "the vibe"? idk.

there's definitely been a metric fucktonne of bad trajectory reads this game

does that make scum or support the case there?

In post 2059, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1938, MURDERCAT wrote:

In post 1898, Gamma Emerald wrote:why is it purple if it isn't me?

That's Infinity's pov

Is it really?

+1 i am a fan of this question

In post 2063, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 2032, Purple Heart wrote:Infinity/Gamma can you BOTH validate this account?

Yeah that’s about right

now i wanna see validate your 2061 haha

In post 2064, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 2032, Purple Heart wrote:Perhaps I overlooked it or it was before Kookie as a hydra appeared but I didn't see this much issue taken to Gamma council D1.

Yeah, I remember them specific not wanting me or Infinity on it. But now in D2 they’re targeting me specifically over Infinity. I think when combined with the weak-willed opposition points to kookie/Infinity as the team.

im not vibing with -scum atm but i dont quite understand the issue behind the D1 council when it was voted by 5 people for each person...

In post 2072, Infinity 324 wrote:I mean you clearly don’t want to elim her now. And koba and

taly definitely expressed townreads on her in a couple spots.

not entirely true

i had a townlean on them D1 and that has faded on , namely because i dont trust the setup of you outling a scumteam on as well as bringing up a bunch of lose ideas of associatives but still push the notion that scum was on council AND not want to sort immediately right now.

the disposition pings me.

i dont trust your reason for the wagon because i think thats a method of you deflecting us.

In post 2096, tracy flick wrote:

In post 1992, MURDERCAT wrote:Assumption: Two people who never voted each other for council probably aren't the scum team. Dumb assumption but I want to see where the associations are.

hmm still think two people who both voted eachother are less likely to be mafia together. with our powers combined...

then do you have a method of resolving this game based off of council or lim votes?

In post 2103, kookiemonster wrote:Yeah ok yeah ok I might just be at a place with work/sleep right now where catching up to this isn't feasible so time for fast and loose Johnny. No more mister reading guy.

It goes purple>Gamma>mcat>tracy>gamma>uncrown>infinity and if you disagree I would like a reason

, is this list going from ?

Two to scum

Also infinity at the bottom jeez I messed that whole thing up

i broke my tonal barrier finally

i am invested in this game









so it is like

or?

nah i'm pretty sure they think infinity and i are the team

In post 2092, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 2088, Uncrowned wrote:If you know your D1 was null than why aren't you concerned with the fact that people handed you zero effort TRs? I'm often more suspect of half assed TRs than I am SRs.

and by everyone I mean... well, pretty much everyone? the only person I really recall actively against you was OWER? maybe kookie as well? Infinity and MCAT jump to mind as prime examples of people who handed you early TRs for what I thought was nothing

Here’s the thing, I don’t think

that many

people gave me 0 effort townreads. Honestly the only I can recall atp is like, Infinity, and I guess PH, but PH was self-aware about it, and I suss Infinity rn. Murder did too but I’m not 100% on where his head is at this game.

Beyond that, you, kookie, and OWER were clearly against, but I also recall Flea not entirely liking me?

Now, here’s the thing: I don’t think me not being UTR should have precluded me from being in the council D1. I had explicit reason I wanted the one we got, which was I thought we had chemistry and wanted to check that first-hand. Turns out I was wrong. But barring a hard SR on either murder or infinity I was always going to want that council D1.

have you given your version of events on the council? who are you SRing explicitly atm?

hey , really wanna hear this.

In post 2106, Purple Heart wrote:

In post 2041, Uncrowned wrote:like everyone's reasons for TRing gamma in particular were just... no offense kinda trash imo? He was playing such a null game D1 which lead to everyone just handing him TRs for... reasons? "the vibe"? idk.

there's definitely been a metric fucktonne of bad trajectory reads this game

does that make

gamma

scum or support the case there?

In post 2106, Purple Heart wrote:

In post 2063, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 2032, Purple Heart wrote:Infinity/Gamma can you BOTH validate this account?

Yeah that’s about right

now i wanna see

Infinity/Murder

validate your 2061 haha

i butchered this whoopsies,

yooohhoooo , wanna talk about those reads?

where are you at with the cases in this game? have been shat on a lot here

at least 2 town must exist in the above group

In post 2110, Uncrowned wrote:nah i'm pretty sure they think infinity and i are the team

Troof

In order of towniness

Purple (ali specifically)doesn't read like she's pushing an agenda and especially doesn't come out of fighting with noraa townreading her as scum

Gamma here matches Gamma in a couple other town games I saw him in, present, jokey, but prone to seriousness surrounding conversations about his own alignment

Mcat seems really solvey and hasn't done anything too super sketchy other than some mild associative tells with some unflipped slots

In post 2112, Purple Heart wrote:does that make gamma scum or support the case there?

If i'm being unbiased then generally it would point to gamma probably being town that people want to hand a read to to placate him

but in the context of this game and how he's played i feel as though it allowed him to chill through D1 which i didn't like. It's like he was determined as town within the first 10 pages or so and no one wanted to evaluate that outside of OWER who then got offed anyways

I still think tracy is independently more scummy but idk still not a huge fan of gamma. his interactions with me today have been ok i suppose but i'm just really put off by his change of read on me

Tracy is where the scum leans start. Much of what I said before here still applies. It's not necessarily what they're saying, just the way they emerge, say something really specific, then disappear. This read has the most mobility

Uncrown here just reads diningenuous. I don't believe his townread/defending outer d1. It's like he knew.

Infinity is the scum here. Many have stated reasons and I'll just add my own bad feelings. I think you could feel how uncomfortable they were at the end of that noraa ali argument where they both townread each other and that feels like scum to me

ya has gotten to my recent walls yet?

also, just got done ona group ISO with (because I figured that grouping all council together makes most sense to dispel or validate my perception of the gamestate)

and im really not thinking is ever S/S with or - inviable based on D1 interactions mainly while feel inviable based on D2 interactions, and im a bit with the scumcase there?
D1 looking better than D2 but im still having a townlean there
read hasnt changed much but the notetaking is to avoid confbias so ill shelve further thoughts on this until i post the group ISO and id really like them to try to engage with my individual points

in my understanding of D1 council.
this implies that scum didnt successfully townbloc all the way and im a bit more weary of hammer, so the ISO group has intensified in priority.

leaning 1 2 with a council but this isnt backed by post analysis or commentary yet so take it with a grain of salt.

this post is pretty much a marker for where im at prior to spewing the ISO analysis.

In post 2119, kookiemonster wrote:Uncrown here just reads diningenuous. I don't believe his townread/defending outer d1. It's like he knew.

I mean yeah I kinda did? Like I could see the "scummy" behavior in a sense from him but he had no agenda and tonally read as though he was super uncaring of how he was perceived.

like just judging by the whole complacency of the player list and the lack of conviction for alternate options it was relatively clear (especially in hindsight) that he was seen as lim bait

that same complacency was mirrored in the council selection hence my confidence in at least 1 scum on council