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Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:48 pm**

hi! a) dunnstral probably town b) does the 'i don't know why i have no reads!' thing feel put on to you?

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:49 pm**

it does sound fake

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:55 pm**

what do you think about the game state?

i feel like its what happens when none of the leading choices are red and the scum do not feel any motivation to push anything, hence a sense of lethargy

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:01 pm**

In post 2016, Gloria Cleary wrote:The counter to this is what Flea said about us all being lost, so there’s that.

if it is fake, does this seem relevant to you? like gloria says that flea said we were all lost? but infinity said that? and gloria replied to it here:

In post 1975, Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 1969, Hopkirk wrote:that's unecessarily aggressive hopkirk and i'm not confident enough in my reads to be saying 'can you read my game' sorry

In post 1973, Infinity 324 wrote:Hopkirk, I get it, I voted you to try and get the game moving more than anything. I'd definitely hear you out on anything at this point, most of us are pretty lost.
+1

@Hopkirk, I need a case on either. I am obviously less confident on Skitter than I was after TGP flip but I expected them to flip scum. It bothered more that she voted Isis.

I’m still not convinced Dunn is town either and then you have flipped town locking Gypyx, so yes, I need help obviously seeing it.

I don’t think it’s Pooky because of something he said that slightly town pinged me and I know you’re hard tr him anyway.

And why is Jessie in your PoE?

and then after flea replied to the same thing and said fae were lost?

In post 2044, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 1973, Infinity 324 wrote:Hopkirk, I get it, I voted you to try and get the game moving more than anything. I'd definitely hear you out on anything at this point, most of us are pretty lost.
yup
In post 1974, Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 1970, Flea The Magician wrote:
*aggressively swats all the hoppy voters from Isis' pocket, excluding Isis*
Without suggesting a counterwagon, this isn’t helpful. Who do you think we should vote for?
It wasn't meant to be. honestly I'm lost at this point. I don't want to take out lurkers as it's LHF and they might get more viable late game, like we've both done previously. If I had to, it would be Jessie right now. simply as my weakest non-lurker read and I suspect that's just because we clash in our style of play and we don't quite vibe with each other. At this stage that's the poorest reason for a vote outside of a nekkid vote. If I'm voting inside the lurkers and nulls I have, I'm rolling a D3 (which I have btw ) or using some loose reasoning between Ydrasse, Gypyx and Dunn.

TGP towncased Gypyx pretty hard, which takes me down to Dunn and Ydrasse. Honestly, I'd call that a coin flip at this point. The vibe from Ydrasse feels good, and I like Dunns defence of himself against TGP.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:03 pm**

In post 2102, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what do you think about the game state?

i feel like its what happens when none of the leading choices are red and the scum do not feel any motivation to push anything, hence a sense of lethargy

it kinda feels like people wanted the game to stall out and knew how to make that happen. but one of the main suspects there for me would be you, so

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:36 pm**

i do not want the game to stall out

i'd rather lose than stall the game out

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:52 pm**

In post 2105, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i

what do you think of this?:

In post 2103, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 2016, Gloria Cleary wrote:The counter to this is what Flea said about us all being lost, so there’s that.
if it is fake, does this seem relevant to you? like gloria says that flea said we were all lost? but infinity said that? and gloria replied to it here:
In post 1975, Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 1969, Hopkirk wrote:that's unecessarily aggressive hopkirk and i'm not confident enough in my reads to be saying 'can you read my game' sorry

In post 1973, Infinity 324 wrote:Hopkirk, I get it, I voted you to try and get the game moving more than anything. I'd definitely hear you out on anything at this point, most of us are pretty lost.
+1

@Hopkirk, I need a case on either. I am obviously less confident on Skitter than I was after TGP flip but I expected them to flip scum. It bothered more that she voted Isis.

I’m still not convinced Dunn is town either and then you have flipped town locking Gypyx, so yes, I need help obviously seeing it.

I don’t think it’s Pooky because of something he said that slightly town pinged me and I know you’re hard tr him anyway.

And why is Jessie in your PoE?
and then after flea replied to the same thing and said fae were lost?
In post 2044, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 1973, Infinity 324 wrote:Hopkirk, I get it, I voted you to try and get the game moving more than anything. I'd definitely hear you out on anything at this point, most of us are pretty lost.
yup
In post 1974, Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 1970, Flea The Magician wrote:
*aggressively swats all the hoppy voters from Isis' pocket, excluding Isis*
Without suggesting a counterwagon, this isn’t helpful. Who do you think we should vote for?
It wasn't meant to be. honestly I'm lost at this point. I don't want to take out lurkers as it's LHF and they might get more viable late game, like we've both done previously. If I had to, it would be Jessie right now. simply as my weakest non-lurker read and I suspect that's just because we clash in our style of play and we don't quite vibe with each other. At this stage that's the poorest reason for a vote outside of a nekkid vote. If I'm voting inside the lurkers and nulls I have, I'm rolling a D3 (which I have btw ) or using some loose reasoning between Ydrasse, Gypyx and Dunn.

TGP towncased Gypyx pretty hard, which takes me down to Dunn and Ydrasse. Honestly, I'd call that a coin flip at this point. The vibe from Ydrasse feels good, and I like Dunns defence of himself against TGP.

like the timeline of events is:

1973: infinity says most of us are lost
1975: gloria replies to 1973
2016: gloria says flea said we are are lost
2044: flea also replies to 1973 and replies to gloria and says 'i'm lost'

i don't know if it was clear from my original post that it was a reply to this:

In post 2101, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it does sound fake

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:25 pm**

I think everyone feels a bit lost

i feel very lost

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:31 pm**

In post 2107, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think everyone feels a bit lost

i feel very lost

i guess i may be asking this not well.

like if you think that the people saying 'i don't know who to vote' et cetera is possibly put on, do you think it is relevant to that that gloria said flea said we were all lost? when flea had not said that? but then flea said it after?

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:39 pm**

i think its more likely that gloria got it mixed up who said the comment about us being lost rather than its something flea said in the mafia PT to gloria and she just slipped it?

looking thru flea's ISO I think the closest fae says to "lost" is 1932 ?

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:48 pm**

In post 2109, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think its more likely that gloria got it mixed up who said the comment about us being lost rather than its something flea said in the mafia PT to gloria and she just slipped it?

looking thru flea's ISO I think the closest fae says to "lost" is 1932 ?

this seems possible but then flea responding to gloria, but not correcting her, and also responding to the same infinity post, but then reiterating that fae was lost separately in a reply to gloria feels weird to me. it feels like a lot of pieces to have just been 'gloria mistook infinity for flea'

like it wouldn't make sense for flea to have said 'i feel lost' in the mafia pt of course but were the whole 'idk who to vote etc' thing a show i'd imagine it to have possibly been planned.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:51 pm**

Do you think Gloria-Flea-Infinity is the team and Gloria just confused one teammate for the other?

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:55 pm**

In post 2111, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Do you think Gloria-Flea-Infinity is the team and Gloria just confused one teammate for the other?

doesn't seem impossible to me. maybe not the most likely conclusion, even from that chain of posts, but that seems possible, yes. i don't think the ties to infinity are particularly strong (at least from this specifically) because it felt more like they would be using his post as setup for their play rather than as part of the play itself.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:11 pm**

I would like to take a leap of faith with you.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:11 pm**

In post 2112, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 2111, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Do you think Gloria-Flea-Infinity is the team and Gloria just confused one teammate for the other?
doesn't seem impossible to me. maybe not the most likely conclusion, even from that chain of posts, but that seems possible, yes. i don't think the ties to infinity are particularly strong (at least from this specifically) because it felt more like they would be using his post as setup for their play rather than as part of the play itself.

but infinity does seem the most individually scummy of the three to me and there are other things i've noted that connect, so maybe,

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:20 pm**

In post 2111, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Do you think Gloria-Flea-Infinity is the team and Gloria just confused one teammate for the other?

@Jessie are you trolling me here because I don’t find this particularly amusing and Flea is super obvtown.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:21 pm**

In post 2113, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I would like to take a leap of faith with you.

*mega swats*

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:24 pm**

In post 2115, Gloria Cleary wrote:@Jessie are you trolling me here

no? could you explain this:

In post 2016, Gloria Cleary wrote:The counter to this is what Flea said about us all being lost

to me, please?

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:24 pm**

In post 2114, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 2112, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 2111, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Do you think Gloria-Flea-Infinity is the team and Gloria just confused one teammate for the other?
doesn't seem impossible to me. maybe not the most likely conclusion, even from that chain of posts, but that seems possible, yes. i don't think the ties to infinity are particularly strong (at least from this specifically) because it felt more like they would be using his post as setup for their play rather than as part of the play itself.
but infinity does seem the most individually scummy of the three to me and there are other things i've noted that connect, so maybe,

Just because I have no clue to vote for doesn’t make me scum in any game ever. Read my iso, then read it a second, third and 100th time if you seriously think there’s even a snowball’s chance in hell that ISO ever comes from scum.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:31 pm**

In post 2117, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 2115, Gloria Cleary wrote:@Jessie are you trolling me here
no? could you explain this:
In post 2016, Gloria Cleary wrote:The counter to this is what Flea said about us all being lost
to me, please?

My point is it isn’t hedging if you’re actually lost. It isn’t hedging if you have no clue who to vote for. Hedging otoh is a conscious strategy that scum uses to not have to give reads. I don’t honestly don’t know who to vote for. I’m not stalling. I will probably sheep Isis if I can’t figure that out. I would have sheeped you too but not if you’re no longer reading me correctly and Flea. Flea is super obvtown. I don’t know what to make of Infinity but I’m town and feel very confident that Flea is as well.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:32 pm**

but flea hadn't said fae was lost when you said that.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:36 pm**

In post 2111, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Do you think Gloria-Flea-Infinity is the team and
Gloria just confused one teammate for the other
?

Post game, can I have your permission to nom this post of the year? I have this extremely bad habit where I mix up my tv with my iPad, maybe my brain is actually rotting?

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:37 pm**

In post 2120, team rocket queen wrote:but flea hadn't said fae was lost when you said that.

So? I’m not scum here Jessie unless you think it’s scum indicative to be dyslexic?

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:40 pm**

In post 2122, Gloria Cleary wrote:So? I’m not scum here Jessie unless you think it’s scum indicative to be dyslexic?

so it is strange that to me that

you say flea said something,
that flea has not said,
and then flea comes to the thread,
does not draw attention to you having done so,
and then says the thing that you said fae said

like does that not seem a strange sequence of events to you?

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:41 pm**

In post 2123, team rocket queen wrote:so it is strange that to me that

*so it is strange to me that

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