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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:41 pm
by Akarin
In post 1964, Flea The Magician wrote: I took the same actions with Titus, I went in with a suspicion, and thought streamed as I read through. I have a strong scumlean on Titus.
This wasn't what you said at the time though.
In post 1470, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 1462, Akarin wrote:Flea, what was your gut feeling on Titus before you reread her ISO and made your big wall?
Town Leaning.
I went in wanting to confirm my read and try and see what others were seeing that made her suspicious.
It did, in fact, feel like you went in looking for reasons to suspect Titus, as you just said.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:44 pm
by Akarin
In post 2099, SirCakez wrote:I don't see a reason to vote here
In the general no-lim sense? Or you don't think that looks like BM acting like they know Blitzo is town, starting to make a self-doubt post, and then spending the rest of the post on a 100% assumption of Blitzo-scum.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:45 pm
by Taly
In post 2077, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
people need to tell me if they have to be in a room for 2 nights so i can adjust the table
don't make the same mistake i made, kids! claim your nights if you feel its necessary to properly plan.
In post 2079, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2030, Taly wrote:
Taly
has been last seen hospitalized for carrying all the town from
Among Us Mafia
on his back.
Hold on
Thought you preferred “she/her”? Did that change? Is that a sticking point for you? Have I been disturbing you with incorrect pronouns?
I’M SORRY
haha, np.
I was born male and I identify as male.

I don't personally mind being misgendered. I'm usually called ma'am over the phone or when someone talks to me from behind, and I'm a bit more on the
"feminine"
side in personality and appearance.

So I'm used to people thinking so unless I correct them.
In post 2096, Akarin wrote:
In post 1878, Taly wrote:
MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1867, Flea The Magician wrote:If you're town you shouldn't be self-voting anyway?
Normally I would at deadline, as a miselim that would happen later is better than a no elim. I don't think that's the case here.
I'll need everybody scumreading
Murder
to walk-me-through how this post comes from scum.
I don't see why this post is notably towny at all, Taly.

On theory I actually agree, I wouldn't self-hammer here either. But I don't see why that stance is particularly towny.
Don't think it's particularly towny either but I asked to see how people who scumread
Murder
would interpret an open-ended post to see how good-faith the wagon was, since I didn't feel compelled by the reasons.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:48 pm
by Akarin
In post 2102, Taly wrote:Don't think it's particularly towny either but I asked to see how people who scumread Murder would interpret an open-ended post to see how good-faith the wagon was, since I didn't feel compelled by the reasons.
My reasons are still my original reasons: the agreeing with the logic but refusing to commit to it and seeming utterly unconcerned with the
results
despite being relatively enthusiastic with the theory.

I'm still catching up, curious how the Fluffy Fire Eevee wagon dissolved.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:51 pm
by Akarin
I will
absolutely
vote No Elim over a townread. But I think if the case is plausible and people I townread are enough of the wagon I'd be happy to hammer a Null read.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:56 pm
by OutWorldER
people state they don't understand why Murder was wagoned and like:

I thought I made my case pretty clear?

Some people who were voting him didn't understand why

I'm worried I'm being pocketed and TR'd for superficial reasons.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:59 pm
by SirCakez
In post 2101, Akarin wrote:
In post 2099, SirCakez wrote:I don't see a reason to vote here
In the general no-lim sense? Or you don't think that looks like BM acting like they know Blitzo is town, starting to make a self-doubt post, and then spending the rest of the post on a 100% assumption of Blitzo-scum.
The former but also the reasons people are SRing BM here just seem to be BM being BM

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:00 pm
by Thestatusquo
VoteCount 1.58


titus [4]
haschel cedricson pookythemagicalbear battle mage gamma emerald
Battle Mage [3]
blitzo DrippingGoofball titus
MURDERCAT [3]
outworldER xRECKONERx thegoldenparadox
thegoldenparadox [2]
taly murdercat
sircakez [1]
bell
outworldER [1]
Alisae
no elim [1]
sircakez

Not Voting [2]
akarin flea the magician


With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-12-08 15:40:31)

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:01 pm
by SirCakez
If we do go elim route then I want MC, TGP, Blitzo or Haschel

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:01 pm
by Akarin
In post 2106, SirCakez wrote:The former but also the reasons people are SRing BM here just seem to be BM being BM
I have 0 experience with BM and haven't read any games with them. Do you think the post that raised my hackles is also typical for them?

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:03 pm
by Alisae
In post 2108, SirCakez wrote:If we do go elim route then I want MC, TGP, Blitzo or Haschel
oh i could not care what happens to TGP
VOTE: TGP

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:03 pm
by Alisae
haven't read the slot
not gonna
#dealwithit

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:09 pm
by Akarin
In post 2067, Taly wrote:but me want to finish my navigation task N1

me dont think i survive long enough to finish the admin. im in there for 2 nights.
I think taking the long task first has some merit. If you're with the group scum only have one shot that matters (N2) and they could very well have other priorities. Better to force the choice first I think.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:15 pm
by Akarin
Haschel, could you explain for me again why you think you not claiming is worth giving scum a free NK on you?
Spoiler: the chart
Tasks
PlayerNumber of TasksLocation 1Location 2Location 3
MURDERCAT
2
Reactor
Comms
N/A
Blitzo
2
Electrical
???
N/A
xRECKONERx
2
Location 1
Location 2
N/A
TheGoldenParadox
2
Security
Security/L2
Location 2
Flea The Magician
2
Storage
Security
N/A
Haschel Cedricson
2
Location 1
Location 2
N/A
DrippingGoofball
2
Electrical
Location 2
N/A
Battle Mage
1
Electrical
N/A
N/A
Gamma Emerald
1
Weapons
N/A
N/A
Alisae
2
Electrical
Admin
N/A
Titus
1
Electrical
N/A
N/A
OutWorldER
1
Cafeteria
N/A
N/A
Taly
2
Navigation
Admin
N/A
SirCakez
2
Reactor
Comms
N/A
Akarin
1
Cafeteria
Cafeteria
N/A
PookyTheMagicalBear
2
Navigation
Cafeteria
N/A
Bell
2
Navigation
Security
N/A

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:16 pm
by Akarin
I feel like Murdercat went from top wagon to not happening really fast and with no one actually defending them.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:19 pm
by OutWorldER
A bunch of people said "I don't know why MC was wagoned" and then suddenly the wagon stopped.

Which is the thing I was questioning. I thought I made myself pretty clear.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:28 pm
by Bell
I lost the thread.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:30 pm
by Akarin
In post 1931, Battle Mage wrote:I'm not sure which way around it was - maybe they scumread me because i scumread them?

I'm being voted by:

Blitzo, Gamma, DGB, Titus.

Of those, I'm neutral on Gamma, fairly neutral with a minor scumlean on DGB, scumreads on Blitzo and Titus.
Was it the drama that changed your read on Gamma or something else?

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:30 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 2115, OutWorldER wrote:A bunch of people said "I don't know why MC was wagoned" and then suddenly the wagon stopped.

Which is the thing I was questioning. I thought I made myself pretty clear.
You were, no one else was though

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:35 pm
by Bell
Murderkitty,
I think it's normal for you to do little D1, I also think that without Noraa sucking up all the attention you're gunna get pressured for it early game day and that you'd have some kind of motivation to try and solve based on that or at least live.

I don't think it makes sense that he didn't vote titus, but voted TGP after saying he felt he would die if he tried to vote titus opportunisticaly.

You're here Murderkitty. Respond?

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:35 pm
by Alisae
you know what sure
I'll vote haschel too
fuck it

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:36 pm
by Akarin
Gamma, why the hell are you of all people on Titus?

And what's the case on Titus anyway?

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:39 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 2119, Bell wrote:Murderkitty,
I think it's normal for you to do little D1, I also think that without Noraa sucking up all the attention you're gunna get pressured for it early game day and that you'd have some kind of motivation to try and solve based on that or at least live.

I don't think it makes sense that he didn't vote titus, but voted TGP after saying he felt he would die if he tried to vote titus opportunisticaly.

You're here Murderkitty. Respond?
Yeah I'm here. TGP isn't a real wagon, looks less opportunistic (well to everyone except TGP). It's effectively still a no elim vote, but it's showing support to Taly who I think 1. Needs it and 2. Deserves it.

I think I have given reads on everyone in the game. I am solving. I need more info. That could be an elim but night kills and neighbors also work.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:42 pm
by Bell
What a nuanced yet weird position to take lol.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:44 pm
by Akarin
So other than people's gut reads, we have
In post 1125, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Her reads in 580 are terrible, too. Misrepresentation of my game + Wildly overreacting to BM's 254 + Appeal to meta + 3 reads with literally no substance behind them. Unvote; Vote: Titus
(Ignoring Titus' mech mistake because I don't see how that's possibly scummy)
In post 580, Titus wrote:If I get mislimmed day one, there's little I can do. I have accepted that with this game state. I have an easy task if I slowly post day 2.

That being said, I do feel my wagon
(bell, Battle Mage, OutWorlder, Flea)
is scum driven though. Consensus is gathering around no elimination but yet people vote me for actually voting for it.

Here are my actual weak reads though.

HC is scum riding off town Reck's coattails to disrupt the game.

BM is scum for waiting on a consensus before voting me. His position on me is just hot garbage in his ISO. He appeared fine when it was just me and him going to electrical but sad when Ali was added to the mix. That would have three in electrical. Removing me makes two in electrical.

Taly and Flea are town because of their metas.

Pooky and Alisae are town.

Cakez is town.
What am I missing?