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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:20 pm
by Jacket
I don't think I actually want to read more, that's an incredibly scummy post from ZenMan based on flips/reads.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:22 pm
by Jacket
Fine with the bottom 2. Probably need to put more time on reading Pizza/dwlee. Not tonight though.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:44 pm
by MathBlade
I think the general consensus is zen/T3 yeah? I will focus on them tonight.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:53 pm
by Jacket
In post 2102, MathBlade wrote:I think the general consensus is zen/T3 yeah? I will focus on them tonight.
T3 is largely townread now. He claimed odd night traffic analyst/even night neighbor finder, which makes sense with the setup, and without him town is underpowered.

I also think that if ZenMan is mafia, that post I quoted is spewing T3 as town.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:07 pm
by MathBlade
Sorry misread I have been doing a shit ton of overtime recently.

What makes you say town is underpowered? I have seen some games with 3 goons for scum before.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:08 pm
by MathBlade
I really wish there was a list of claims somewhere.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:11 pm
by Jacket
In post 2104, MathBlade wrote:Sorry misread I have been doing a shit ton of overtime recently.

What makes you say town is underpowered? I have seen some games with 3 goons for scum before.
The only actual useful PR would be a complex vig, then there's just...a mailman that knows about the traitor, and a bulletproof neighbor. That's not enough roles that do things.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:12 pm
by Jacket
In post 2105, MathBlade wrote:I really wish there was a list of claims somewhere.
You know all the relevant ones.

Zenman - Bulletproof neighbor
T3 - Odd Night Traffic Analyst/Even Night Neighbor Finder
Everyone else - VT

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:12 pm
by Jacket
T3 claims roleblocked on both the odd nights.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:15 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2106, Jacket wrote:
In post 2104, MathBlade wrote:Sorry misread I have been doing a shit ton of overtime recently.

What makes you say town is underpowered? I have seen some games with 3 goons for scum before.
The only actual useful PR would be a complex vig, then there's just...a mailman that knows about the traitor, and a bulletproof neighbor. That's not enough roles that do things.
Are you saying lack of invest?
Vig is IC which in normals is a confirmed town.
Mailman knows about the traitor which becomes a second IC announcing traitor immediately.

Invests generally are meant to provide IC/hints to the game.

If you look at a recent normal I played with Kyo recently there was FN babysitter and IC versus three goons.

I think I would need a claims list or a general sense of PRs left before judging one way or another.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:17 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2107, Jacket wrote:
In post 2105, MathBlade wrote:I really wish there was a list of claims somewhere.
You know all the relevant ones.

Zenman - Bulletproof neighbor
T3 - Odd Night Traffic Analyst/Even Night Neighbor Finder
Everyone else - VT
Hmm T3 claimed blocked both nights.

When did T3 claim?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:18 pm
by Jacket
In post 2110, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2107, Jacket wrote:
In post 2105, MathBlade wrote:I really wish there was a list of claims somewhere.
You know all the relevant ones.

Zenman - Bulletproof neighbor
T3 - Odd Night Traffic Analyst/Even Night Neighbor Finder
Everyone else - VT
Hmm T3 claimed blocked both nights.

When did T3 claim?
He got run up and forced to claim day 1 because I was tunneling him (I didn't like the way he pushed fua).

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:22 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2111, Jacket wrote:
In post 2110, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2107, Jacket wrote:
In post 2105, MathBlade wrote:I really wish there was a list of claims somewhere.
You know all the relevant ones.

Zenman - Bulletproof neighbor
T3 - Odd Night Traffic Analyst/Even Night Neighbor Finder
Everyone else - VT
Hmm T3 claimed blocked both nights.

When did T3 claim?
He got run up and forced to claim day 1 because I was tunneling him (I didn't like the way he pushed fua).
I am going to go read D1 because I think sorting T3 is paramount here.

Because if T3 is town scum didn’t/don’t view him as a threat.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:06 pm
by Dwlee99
If t3 is town then scum have a roleblocker so they wouldn't care about him

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:51 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1996, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:07 am
by T3
In post 2090, TheZenMan wrote:Honestly don't lim me solely based on mechanics. It's easily possible that 2 neighbours have the exact same role. It actually makes more sense given that it's probably mind games from the mods.
LMAOOOO

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:11 am
by T3
Math town

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:57 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Prodding Save The Dragons, however he has been on V/LA since before the thread unlocked

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:01 am
by TheZenMan
In the words of T3, please don't lime me.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:02 am
by MathBlade
In post 2118, TheZenMan wrote:In the words of T3, please don't lime me.
Who would you lim instead?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:03 am
by TheZenMan
T3 still hasn't said why he was withholding N1 info. He withheld being roleblocked and messaged by mailman for no reason. Why exactly was that?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:06 am
by TheZenMan
In post 2119, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2118, TheZenMan wrote:In the words of T3, please don't lime me.
Who would you lim instead?
Save the dragon is the best choice IMO. Has mostly flip flopped and basically been coasting by because he never says anything of substance. Refer you to my post #1742.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13057317

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:17 am
by MathBlade
In post 2120, TheZenMan wrote:T3 still hasn't said why he was withholding N1 info. He withheld being roleblocked and messaged by mailman for no reason. Why exactly was that?
Not sure what you’re getting at here. The mailman flipped town. Iirc T3 said no result or am I mixing stuff up?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:19 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2120, TheZenMan wrote:T3 still hasn't said why he was withholding N1 info. He withheld being roleblocked and messaged by mailman for no reason. Why exactly was that?
I think he withheld the info cause he was crumbing it to cookie (crumb, cookie, nice) based on whatever the mail he got said

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:57 am
by TheZenMan
In post 2122, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2120, TheZenMan wrote:T3 still hasn't said why he was withholding N1 info. He withheld being roleblocked and messaged by mailman for no reason. Why exactly was that?
Not sure what you’re getting at here. The mailman flipped town. Iirc T3 said no result or am I mixing stuff up?
He got roleblocked (or so he claims) N1, but then he choose to withhold that information for some reason. Not sure why he would want to even crumb that to cookie, it's way more beneficial for town to know there is a roleblocker rather than try to crumb it to cookie.