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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:45 pm
by Infinity 324
toog do you have any reads

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:03 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2099, Toogeloo wrote:Mountainous games are the worst. Trust issues suck.
What’s the issue
And like, it hard not having roles to fall back on but this isn’t straight mountainous, there’s mechanics going on.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:08 am
by Dunnstral
In post 2067, Infinity 324 wrote:pooky also had a really good tmi-based scumread on dunn in silent star 3
What did I tmi?

I already explained that people misinterpreted what I wrote, and that it was a response to somebody else

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:11 am
by Saber
In post 1948, SirCakez wrote:Dang
Kinda feeling like shit today for obvious reasons but will reeval soon
This reaction seems a little overblown given we already knew Pooky was a contestant who was sabotaged, Cephrir was the only unknown.

Also, Pooky didn't seem as universally contestant read as Taly so there may be something in his reads (or Taly's reads) that's responsible.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:11 am
by Dunnstral
To relitigate:

Somebody said that Gamma was trying to get into the chair
I said that they already had a chance to get into the chair if they wanted to
Somebody said that they wouldn't self vote into the chair because they wanted to look town

Even if point 3 is correct, that doesn't make anything tmi (or even wrong... the first point never said anything about looking town, the third point expanded on assumptions that were unsaid

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:14 am
by Dunnstral
Did Galron/Ydrasse read the event rules? It's clearly described as a duel to the death involving a gun, why vote yourselves in?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:14 am
by Saber
Most vocal stagehand or suspicions from Pooky I can see are on Gamma, Dunnstral, and petapan. He also supported a S-S theory for the two leading wagons.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:20 am
by Saber
In post 2010, Galron wrote:I'm extremely frustrated. I feel like I'm playing a completely different game, and I'm getting angry. At myself for not seeing what others are.
Hmm.

Players stating they're frustrated and angry over showing that frustration and anger over their posts tends to be a stagehand-indicative thing.

You can tell contestants are just from what they're posting, but stagehands need to explicitly tell you if they're looking for an advantage from it.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:22 am
by Saber
In post 2025, petapan wrote:
In post 1963, Galron wrote:
In post 1938, petapan wrote:
In post 1937, ulyana wrote:
In post 1935, petapan wrote:i hope you're town so i don't get accused of that post being scum theater
you think dwlee about to be flipped or…?
no just

down the line


anyway i got what i wanted out of this phase and i'm ready to move on, was just typing some thoughts up
This sounds like you knew this phase was coming.
shut the fuck up wolf
Why are you mad at him if you think he's a stagehand doing his job?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:29 am
by Saber
I'm not interested in voting for Ydrasse or Gypyx. I don't like Infinity voting for Gypyx on the basis Gamma contestant means Prism more likely to be a stagehand.

Infinity, you've made this assumption twice now that the people pushing Gamma the most are more likely to be a stagehand now that Gamma is probably a contestant - first with me, and now with Prism. The problem with that is the fact stagehands knew how the chair in the first phase would work, and that it comes with a heavy risk of the chaired person simply OMGUS executing their pusher.

I'm sure stagehand Prism would have some more reservations of pushing Gamma so aggressively had she considered this factor, which I'm sure she would've.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:35 am
by Saber
VOTE: Galron

The shot on Galron being sabotaged does suggest Galron may be a stagehand also. Stagehands only own 2 of those, so following occam's razor killing the player who was saved due to it does seem like a good idea.

As for the second player in the duel, possibly Dunnstral largely due to Pooky's theory that he brought with him to the grave.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:44 am
by Saber
I didn't have time to express thsie earlier; the most stagehand part of Gamma's whole monologue were probably these 2 posts:
In post 1722, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well this is an interesting position. Looks like both the minority stances were right in a sense, funnily enough. My gut inclination is to shoot in my SRs but I ain’t gonna fuck around and find out. I want to consider my reads again with the truth of the chair in mind.
In post 1751, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well that was unfortunate but I think inevitable. I have an idea about why Pooky was selected to die. It’s getting factored into my new decision though, so I’ll hold onto it until I’m ready to make the call.
These reactions seem quite muted for a relatively emotive person like Gamma, from what we've seen from the rest of this game.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:47 am
by Saber
Despite my qualms, the amount of effort and being top poster by a long shot is quite unlikely to come from a stagehand, though. Contestants dominate that statistic a lot. I may just dislike his erratic playstyle.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:24 am
by Saber
ulyana, how do you feel about Galron after your exchange with him?

The production has been amazing so far by the way. It almost seemed like Pooky and Cephrir
really
were being electrocuted in those chairs. I love how they played along and writhed around, and I had the burnt chicken on standby of course.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:00 am
by Taly
I'm mindmelding strongly with
Saber
. I think it's best I lean in and refrain from suspicion here. I did notice that she hasn't touched my recent posts on her.

I think I'd prefer
peta
over
Dunn
at the moment. I did not like his interaction with
Galron
at all.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:06 am
by Infinity 324
In post 2104, Dunnstral wrote:To relitigate:

Somebody said that Gamma was trying to get into the chair
I said that they already had a chance to get into the chair if they wanted to
Somebody said that they wouldn't self vote into the chair because they wanted to look town

Even if point 3 is correct, that doesn't make anything tmi (or even wrong... the first point never said anything about looking town, the third point expanded on assumptions that were unsaid
this is fair

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:08 am
by Infinity 324
In post 2109, Saber wrote:Infinity, you've made this assumption twice now that the people pushing Gamma the most are more likely to be a stagehand now that Gamma is probably a contestant - first with me, and now with Prism. The problem with that is the fact stagehands knew how the chair in the first phase would work, and that it comes with a heavy risk of the chaired person simply OMGUS executing their pusher.
good point although we don't really know how much scum knew about this. it at least tempers my read a little bit

i didn't think you were scum for pushing gamma per se more that i felt you should've re-evaluated but you didn't

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:06 am
by skitter30
In post 2105, Dunnstral wrote:Did Galron/Ydrasse read the event rules? It's clearly described as a duel to the death involving a gun, why vote yourselves in?
given that we don't know what the events actually,well, are, i'm kinda suspicious of people who intentionally seem to want access to them

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:07 am
by skitter30
In post 2106, Saber wrote:Most vocal stagehand or suspicions from Pooky I can see are on Gamma, Dunnstral, and petapan. He also supported a S-S theory for the two leading wagons.
just gonna point out that even though i townread gamma at this point we technically we haven't really seen anything that disproves s/s

if they were actually svs wagons picking your partner and then sabotaging the flip is a great way to make you look unaligned in that situation

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:26 am
by Galron
In post 2094, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2043, Galron wrote:Hi Dwlee
shut the fuck up wolf:cool:
It's a theme.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:46 am
by Taly
In post 2112, Saber wrote:Despite my qualms, the amount of effort and being top poster by a long shot is quite unlikely to come from a stagehand, though. Contestants dominate that statistic a lot. I may just dislike his erratic playstyle.
Do you find a benefit of the doubt with slots like
Dunn/Peta/Galron
?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:47 am
by skitter30
taly can you say why you're suspicious of peta
(and/or point me in the right direction if you already have don so?)

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:48 am
by skitter30
galron .... why are you voting for yourself

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:49 am
by Galron
In post 166, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 163, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:my guess for this game is that the chair gives the player the ability to pick today's elimination

my guess for the scum sabotage is that they can make it so the chair is a death trap and kills the person who sits in it.
That sounds like scum couldn't be eliminated day one though. Kinda unfun
Unless Gamma is scum, that's exactly what happened.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:55 am
by Galron
In post 1143, Gamma Emerald wrote:Trust these people until the end of time: Taly, Infinity, Skitter, Ydrasse
Good folks to keep around: Gypyx, Galron, Sircakez, Pooky
Could do with a touching-up: Saber, Toogeloo, Dwlee
Remove them from the premises: Cephrir, Dunnstral, Ulyana, Petapan

Since I’m not long for this world I may as well leave this as a parting gift.
I don't understand how I became someone good to keep around to an off with their head.