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I'm working on reading SA at the moment and everyone needs to take a second to appreciate this sequence of posts from Pick Your Poison:

In post 416, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Enchant, is ass really the best way you can think to shorthand my name.

In post 420, Sleepless Assassin wrote:

In post 417, Enchant wrote:Assass?

Sigh

oh i thought i counted to make sure i didn't miss anybody >.> flow's in 'will vote if i have to i suppose' row

although now that i think about it voting them actually seems kinda appealing

if you don't want to vote sleepless after your homework i can vote flow

Datisi, flow trap, innocentvillager
Andante, skitter30
midwaybear, Something_Smart
SirCakez, Faker
Sleepless Assassin
PookyTheMagicalBear
Mare

catboi, northsidegal

other ideas

• did you know that skitter30 is vla on fridays and saturdays? also in general?
  
• northsidegal is VLA until today
  
• less than 4 days !

I have the next hour free-ish while I get ready for work. Anyone here?

After today I'm off the next four days.

I'm pretty conflicted after finishing this. A few key points

-Definitely a mixup from Pick Your Poison, both in realtime and in quality of reads. Compare the quality of working through the ISO on DArby in Poison to the IV read here.
-Explanation on me/Mare in readswall feel lacking. I've been all over the place but there are definitely posts where I give a lot of substance, even if I wake up and change my mind the next day. Does the ability to understand Mare's points imply that he doesn't get those of others?
-Feel very much like I don't have a lot of info.

As a response to a point of skitter's, I do think with IV that it is very hard to to not pick out small things and ignore the full context unfortunately.

I'm walking out of this okay with voting the slot even if I'm not jazzed.

In post 2104, Sleepless Assassin wrote:I have the next hour free-ish while I get ready for work. Anyone here?

After today I'm off the next four days.

Yeah, can you elaborate on why getting Mare's points was so town to you? You've also spent a fair amount of words on my tone/playstyle but very little on the substance.

I would also like more on Cakez/Pooky. Cakez definitely looks similar as town, no doubt, but...he also looks incredibly similar to this as scum, hasn't given a ton of depth, and it's not exactly difficult to figure this out even without first hand experience.

FWIW flow trap definitely does the spam/joke posting a lot as town, though I remember ~50% of it having a purpose that isn't obvious this time around.

I'm going to try to look at midway bear but atm, S->T

flow trap, Pooky, Sleepless, Cakez, Mare, midwaybear, catboi, northsidegal, Datisi, skitter, innocentvillager, Something_Smart, Andante

Mare moves up with the claim I guess, should probably be higher but idk

I've actually liked some pieces of midway's ISO, such as 1150 unaccompanied by another vote (ie. as opposed to just leaving it on Mare and doing nothing), the flow trap read in 1338, along with the really weird line on Andante...and finally, I weirdly feel like midwaybear would have been more thorough in his response.

Lot of weird and kind of irrational things that nudge me in the +town direction. Probably not going to vote here.

In post 2108, Faker wrote:finally, I weirdly feel like midwaybear would have been more thorough in his response to me in 1505, wary in the knowledge I was turning a skeptical eye, rather than just a simple oneliner that was destined for further questioning.

EBWOP, didn't finish this sentence.

I'm going to take a break to read and maybe finish my , but I will be around to check in+do more. I just don't want to overwhelm the thread atm.

Faker, my ISO for associatives in that game was Day 3 I believe and I was fully caught up with the game. My post here was a partial catchup. I'd be surprised if the two were identical or anything close to it.

The biggest things about Mare working from memory here was a theory about flow and midway that felt like it was thought about and something that felt transparent about it not being worth it to go into a read on you.

I haven't remembered much in your posts outside of tone that made me feel one way or the other.

Sirecskez and Pooky are both people who I just played with as town but haven't seen as scum. What would you be looking for to find differences in their play?

Wait what did Mare claim?

I mean, that's an invitation to go back and look at the substance [in my posts] if you're that unsure on me. If you don't think it will wind up productive, or have other slots in mind, then okay, but right now it doesn't seem like you have any slots you want to deepdive into. I don't see the value much in getting your realtime interactions in other than to avoid a vote; you're the one asking to be questioned rather than questioning others.

Cakez I went 50/50 on recently, always limbait, and Pooky I haven't seen as scum. As a player I'm very dependent on reading people in relation to their reaction to me, and Pooky just had a game with me where he beat himself up for not going directly after me and instead went on a partner goose chase. It's bizarre to me that he just sits, doesn't care to push me, and doesn't even take the time to explain why I'm scum at all after the initial vote. In contrast, multiple posts of his have implied I were town or null.

Mare claimed neighborizer.

In post 2105, Faker wrote:As a response to a point of skitter's, I do think with IV that it is very hard to NOT to not pick out small things and ignore the full context unfortunately.

i cant parse the double negative :(

I want to be caught up before I dive into specific slots. ISOs are hard to do without full context.

The funniest part is I said "I really don't want people to get confused over the negative, I'll capitalize and italicize" only to accidentally leave in the original and make it worse.

"I do think with IV that is is very hard to pick out the small things and ignore the full context unfortunately", ie. picking out singular things is the only way to stay sane with IV

I've really got to stop slipping before schadd whacks with me the "do better" bat

In post 2116, Prism wrote:The funniest part is I said "I really don't want people to get confused over the negative, I'll capitalize and italicize" only to accidentally leave in the original and make it worse.

"I do think with IV that is is very hard to

NOT

pick out the small things and ignore the full context unfortunately", ie. picking out singular things is the only way to stay sane with IV

ok thanks .... i thought that's what you meant but there were two nots and then i got confused
if you want to wagon flow i'd be down too tbh
while i do scumread sleepless, part of me does recognize that there might be oog reasons for the things i scumread

Schadd, as a bribe, I do indeed remember the game where I faked a counterpoint to your own post restriction :V

In post 2118, skitter30 wrote:ok thanks .... i thought that's what you meant but there were two nots and then i got confused
if you want to wagon flow i'd be down too tbh
while i do scumread sleepless, part of me does recognize that there might be oog reasons for the things i scumread

I'm going to defer to see what others think and chew on it a bit more, and probably revisit flow trap, but I'm really not opposed to Sleepless either.

flow trap's explanation seemed to be that he knew Prism was in the game but not specifically who. I lean that this is horse hockey, because I'm pretty sure getting snowed in Iceland was deeply scarring and it would be imperative to find out, but he did townread me quite quickly in Open House so who knows?

In post 2120, Faker wrote:getting snowed in Iceland

A+ word choice

i kinda do think flow just knew prism was in the game but didn't know it was you

In post 2122, skitter30 wrote:i kinda do think flow just knew prism was in the game but didn't know it was you

My point here is slightly different, where I assume he is being truthful. "Iceland" in this context refers to my only scumgame of the last 4 years.

Rereading my own sentence, I was not clear and did not finish my point.

I thought that he would find out as town but would not care as much as scum.