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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:42 am
by SensFan
↑ Katsuki wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote: ↑ Katsuki wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote: ↑ tanstalas wrote:If yes, I totally blame Kats for us losing, then Sens, then the sweet, innocent little Mina
As I vented in the Dead QT, I put most of the blame on Katsmina for spending more time trying to troll Fate and I in the Neighbour QT than they did paying attention to the goddamn game.
YOU
FUCKING IGNORED MY POSTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
AND SELF-HAMMERED YOURSELF
YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP
USELESS SACK OF "WOE IS ME'
TEN PEOPLE ALIVE. FIVE WANT ME LYNCHED. FIVE WANT IC LYNCHED.
ASSUME WE NO LYNCH.
IT'S FIVE TO LYNCH THE NEXT DAY.
TAKE A WILD FUCKING GUESS WHICH SIDE THE NIGHTKILL WILL COME FROM.
YOU HAD 4 FUCKING HRS BEFORE DEADLINE
OTHERS WERE ON
YOU DONT FUCKING SELF-HAMMER WITH THAT MUCH TIME REMAINING
ESPECIALLY WHEN OTHERS ARE ON TO ENSURE THAT WE DIDNT NO-LYNCH
Did you miss the whole "In 5 hours, I will be losing access for a week" thing 5 hours before the hammer?
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:42 am
by dramonic
↑ tanstalas wrote:Though. TBF, I had my vote on IC like all D7. You could have placed the vote Kats.
Dram would you have hammered IC?
No
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:43 am
by SensFan
Also THIS IS EXACTLY WHY YOU NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVEN THINK OF VOTING FOR SOMEONE OTHER THAN NL IN MYLO. NEVER. NO, NOT EVEN THEN.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:45 am
by Vi
You have no idea how much I've wanted to use this game as an example for... at least a month now.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:46 am
by Katsuki
↑ SensFan wrote: ↑ Katsuki wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote: ↑ Katsuki wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote:As I vented in the Dead QT, I put most of the blame on Katsmina for spending more time trying to troll Fate and I in the Neighbour QT than they did paying attention to the goddamn game.
YOU
FUCKING IGNORED MY POSTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
AND SELF-HAMMERED YOURSELF
YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP
USELESS SACK OF "WOE IS ME'
TEN PEOPLE ALIVE. FIVE WANT ME LYNCHED. FIVE WANT IC LYNCHED.
ASSUME WE NO LYNCH.
IT'S FIVE TO LYNCH THE NEXT DAY.
TAKE A WILD FUCKING GUESS WHICH SIDE THE NIGHTKILL WILL COME FROM.
YOU HAD 4 FUCKING HRS BEFORE DEADLINE
OTHERS WERE ON
YOU DONT FUCKING SELF-HAMMER WITH THAT MUCH TIME REMAINING
ESPECIALLY WHEN OTHERS ARE ON TO ENSURE THAT WE DIDNT NO-LYNCH
Did you miss the whole "In 5 hours, I will be losing access for a week" thing 5 hours before the hammer?
Did you miss the whole "YOU HAVE A FUCKING MASON NEIGHBOR TO ENSURE THAT A NO-LYNCH DOESN'T OCCUR??"
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:48 am
by Faraday
↑ Vi wrote:You have no idea how much I've wanted to use this game as an example for... at least a month now.
being a dick in a mafia game works?
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:49 am
by SensFan
↑ Katsuki wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote: ↑ Katsuki wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote: ↑ Katsuki wrote:
YOU
FUCKING IGNORED MY POSTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
AND SELF-HAMMERED YOURSELF
YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP
USELESS SACK OF "WOE IS ME'
TEN PEOPLE ALIVE. FIVE WANT ME LYNCHED. FIVE WANT IC LYNCHED.
ASSUME WE NO LYNCH.
IT'S FIVE TO LYNCH THE NEXT DAY.
TAKE A WILD FUCKING GUESS WHICH SIDE THE NIGHTKILL WILL COME FROM.
YOU HAD 4 FUCKING HRS BEFORE DEADLINE
OTHERS WERE ON
YOU DONT FUCKING SELF-HAMMER WITH THAT MUCH TIME REMAINING
ESPECIALLY WHEN OTHERS ARE ON TO ENSURE THAT WE DIDNT NO-LYNCH
Did you miss the whole "In 5 hours, I will be losing access for a week" thing 5 hours before the hammer?
Did you miss the whole "YOU HAVE A FUCKING MASON NEIGHBOR TO ENSURE THAT A NO-LYNCH DOESN'T OCCUR??"
You and Mina weren't exactly bastions of defense. I considered the odds that anyone other than me would have the balls to actually fucking hammer the Mason relatively low in the next 4 hours, seeing as no one was willing to move their vote during the previous hours/days/weeks.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:51 am
by Faraday
↑ Fate wrote:Sens' self-vote was out of desperation and frustatin it was a thousand times better than a no lynch.
nope, lol. teehee nl ensured we died next day after i promised to self hammer if needed.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:54 am
by SensFan
↑ Faraday wrote: ↑ Fate wrote:Sens' self-vote was out of desperation and frustatin it was a thousand times better than a no lynch.
nope, lol. teehee nl ensured we died next day after i promised to self hammer if needed.
I assumed enough competence on the part of Town to lynch you anyways. Even if literally everyone else in the game was a confirmed-Sane Cop with an Innocent on you, you were still absolutely the right lynch the next Day.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:56 am
by Faraday
heh.
nice hyperbole
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:57 am
by SensFan
Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:57 am
by Vi
I don't feel like digging up the discussion in 62, so I'll mention what was interesting about this game.
1) Six Neighbors in one game. All Town. The original draft of the setup had ABR as a scum Neighbor (Loud Couch IIRC? It was the one Botones couldn't investigate) but I turned it down.
2) Faraday got in trouble D1. He dragged in a hydra-replacement as he was going down (questionable ethics discussion goes here). They made one of the scummiest must-lynch claims in the meta, Vengeful Townie. And through the sheer power of talking nonstop, they managed to not only not get lynched D1, they UNclaimed Vengeful Townie (this is definitely the first game I have ever heard of "unclaiming") in spite of it being the claim that saved them from getting lynched D1, got a power role who was correctly mod-outguessed to be confirmed Town lynched (remember, Minineko was a last-minute addition to the setup and it's much more likely that it'll be an extra Townie getting thrown in), and survived to endgame through a crowd of Neighbors who for the most part correctly read each other as Town.
And what's more amazing about this is that after seeing an unclaim in this game, I've seen it happen in other games. This is also yet another example of a game that SCREAMING DEATH has steamLOLled through doing what everyone already knows they do. It's like people want the meta to change so that the tactics used in this victory are
rewarded
.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:00 am
by Faraday
↑ SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.
kinda think it worked well
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:01 am
by Vi
That post wasn't a knock on the Irish Carbomb team, to be clear. That was not an easy win, and not just anyone could have done it.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:02 am
by Katsuki
↑ Vi wrote:That post wasn't a knock on the Irish Carbomb team, to be clear. That was not an easy win, and not just anyone could have done it.
Reck had Dram in this game.
Faraday had Mina in this game.
Nuff said.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:03 am
by SensFan
↑ Faraday wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.
kinda think it worked well
If you think you won this through any particular excellence of play, then I distinctly beg to differ.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:04 am
by Faraday
↑ SensFan wrote: ↑ Faraday wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.
kinda think it worked well
If you think you won this through any particular excellence of play, then I distinctly beg to differ.
YEP LOL. but luckily you're a retard who self hammers so your opinion is invalid.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:05 am
by SensFan
↑ Faraday wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote: ↑ Faraday wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.
kinda think it worked well
If you think you won this through any particular excellence of play, then I distinctly beg to differ.
YEP LOL. but luckily you're a retard who self hammers so your opinion is invalid.
And luckily you Hydra'd your way out of being lynched D1 so yours is exceptionally valid.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:05 am
by Faraday
↑ Katsuki wrote: ↑ Vi wrote:That post wasn't a knock on the Irish Carbomb team, to be clear. That was not an easy win, and not just anyone could have done it.
Reck had Dram in this game.
Faraday had Mina in this game.
Nuff said.
yeah chamber/ether day 1, mini, vitamin. they're all admirers of me too.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:06 am
by Faraday
↑ SensFan wrote: ↑ Faraday wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote: ↑ Faraday wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.
kinda think it worked well
If you think you won this through any particular excellence of play, then I distinctly beg to differ.
YEP LOL. but luckily you're a retard who self hammers so your opinion is invalid.
And luckily you Hydra'd your way out of being lynched D1 so yours is exceptionally valid.
i am morally reprehensible, but you still self hammered. i win. you lose. suck it up, champ.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:12 am
by tanstalas
↑ Vi wrote:You have no idea how much I've wanted to use this game as an example for... at least a month now.
Oh.
Fuck.
Now I'm paranoid.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:15 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
Self-hammering can be completely valid. I still maintain that xReck should've argued for his own lynch in the original Liten (3-1-1 endgame and he was obv getting lynched sooner or later).
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:15 am
by Faraday
it wasn't in this case though, but whatever
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:16 am
by SensFan
↑ Faraday wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote: ↑ Faraday wrote: ↑ SensFan wrote:If you think you won this through any particular excellence of play, then I distinctly beg to differ.
YEP LOL. but luckily you're a retard who self hammers so your opinion is invalid.
And luckily you Hydra'd your way out of being lynched D1 so yours is exceptionally valid.
i am morally reprehensible, but you still self hammered. i win. you lose. suck it up, champ.
We can agree to disagree. I've been on record for years that Town should self-hammer to avoid a NL even if they're Cop-cleared Innocent.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:32 am
by xRECKONERx
↑ Vi wrote:I don't feel like digging up the discussion in 62, so I'll mention what was interesting about this game.
1) Six Neighbors in one game. All Town. The original draft of the setup had ABR as a scum Neighbor (Loud Couch IIRC? It was the one Botones couldn't investigate) but I turned it down.
2) Faraday got in trouble D1. He dragged in a hydra-replacement as he was going down (questionable ethics discussion goes here). They made one of the scummiest must-lynch claims in the meta, Vengeful Townie. And through the sheer power of talking nonstop, they managed to not only not get lynched D1, they UNclaimed Vengeful Townie (this is definitely the first game I have ever heard of "unclaiming") in spite of it being the claim that saved them from getting lynched D1, got a power role who was correctly mod-outguessed to be confirmed Town lynched (remember, Minineko was a last-minute addition to the setup and it's much more likely that it'll be an extra Townie getting thrown in), and survived to endgame through a crowd of Neighbors who for the most part correctly read each other as Town.
And what's more amazing about this is that after seeing an unclaim in this game, I've seen it happen in other games. This is also yet another example of a game that SCREAMING DEATH has steamLOLled through doing what everyone already knows they do. It's like people want the meta to change so that the tactics used in this victory are
rewarded
.
so this game would be an example of what?
Why you policy lynch liars on the spot?
I don't really know what this is an example of, per se
Also Sens stop being fucking butthurt
We literally went from being at L-1 on DAY ONE, made the BALLSIEST claim ever as scum, and managed to bus both of our buddies AND our traitor and pull out a win
Stop crying. We won because we outplayed town. "Oh but the town left alive was derptown" YES, THAT'S WHY WE KILLED OFF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK
We had good play here, it was calculated, and it won us the game.