The game of the year: town won!

[theamatuer]

vote: milk

[callforjudgement]

VOTE: Milk

[callforjudgement]

Vote Count

• Milk (6)
  : MattP Trevor Nobody Special TheTrollie theamatuer callforjudgement
  
• kondi2424 (5)
  : Zdenek redFF syndromeofadown kondi2424 Zajnet
  
• Amrun (1)
  : SpyreX
  
• Chevre (1)
  : BBmolla
  
• Fritzler (1)
  : UberNinja
  
• Hoopla (1)
  : Staeg
  
• LowMan (1)
  : Amrun
  
• PeregrineV (1)
  : zoraster
  
• zoraster (1)
  : PeregrineV
  
• Not voting:
  Chevre Chronopie dramonic Ellibereth Elmo TeH AzN Fritzler funkybike1 Hoopla Kairyuu LowMan manho Mastermind of Sin Milk petapan Rhinox SleepyKrew sykedoc TeChNoWC YYR

With 37 alive it is 10 to lynch.

[Trevor]

For the record, this will be the first lynch that I've actually approved of.

[UberNinja]

@mod, can we get a replacement for anyone who hasn't posted in more than a week?

[UberNinja]

(or has less than 10 posts out of OVER 2000 so far)

[Trevor]

halfway the game muffin wednesday went to play as kondi.

Further I intend to have no replacements in this game

, for the simple reason that a game of this size can cope with V/LA's

[UberNinja]

V/LAs are much different from active lurking and site flaking.

[theamatuer]

@mod: kairyuus not going to post again. Like ever. please replace him .

[PeregrineV]

Not up for the Milk lynch. There are better lurkers.

[Nobody Special]

"Better" lurkers? Please, clarify.

[PeregrineV]

AGar 2012-05-16 10:37:26 13 days 4 hours 8
Mastermind of Sin 2012-05-21 04:16:09 8 days 11 hours 7
funkybike1 2012-05-28 21:11:06 0 days 18 hours 6
dramonic 2012-05-25 18:09:22 3 days 21 hours 5
sykedoc 2012-05-24 02:46:43 5 days 12 hours 5
zoraster 2012-05-26 15:37:52 2 days 23 hours 4

[redFF]

Robotnick was lynched. He was a vanilla townie. You have one more lynch remaining today.

No fucking shit, it would be really bad if we went into night 3 off a lurker lynch.

Actually no lol don't listen to me keep lynching vanilla townies you fuckwits.

vote:kondi

[UberNinja]

Unvote; Vote: redFF

I'm 100% fine with a policy lynch before bedtime.

[mykonian]

Yes, stuff sucks.

And you could explain me not wanting any replacements as being a lazy mod. But lets be honest, it's kind of a dick move to let people replace into a 86 page game. I don't want to set a precedent. People might even want to replace into this, but it's hardly fair to them.

[redFF]

Unvote; Vote: redFF

I'm 100% fine with a policy lynch before bedtime.

Is there any reason other than you don't like me and you've been wrong all game and don't want to admit it.

Oh wait it's because you're next.

[zoraster]

I'm here. Vaguely aware of what's going on, but only just.

[Zdenek]

I understand the point against Chevre for over justifying his vote on Luffy, but since this game is likely to be multiscum (despite the N1 results). I don't think that it's as good of a tell as it is when there is just one scum team because Chevre couldn't have known that Luffy was town. I understand why he came under suspicion, but I don't think that the case against him is all that strong.

but the sad truth is that scums are much less likely to self-vote than town, so i think both kondi and lowman is town.

I think that whatever town-cred they hope to pick up for this antic vanishes the minute they move their vote.

why is there so many people self-voting. it is almost always against your win con. you shouldn't be able to gain town-cred by self-voting.

but the sad truth is that scums are much less likely to self-vote than town, so i think both kondi and lowman is town.

What do you think about SpyreX's continual acceptance and desire for his lynch? Same category?

It can definitely be scum WIFOM, but Spyrex does, to some degree, seem genuinely uncaring about his lynch, and not very defensive about it. He just seems hungry for blood. Not sure how to read it.

I know this didn't involve me, but for the future, please don't answer questions directed to other people.

I didn't remember he made that are even worse. And it looks sort-of like he was trying to excuse them by pretending they didn't exist and hoping nobody would check;

Which posts are these?

I don't really care for Chevre's scum-hunting by looking at the suspicions of the flipped players especially when he missed Imaginality's at first.

Just making a note here about the wagons:

It seems impossible to get Kondi lynched.
Chevre was driven up.
A wagon on NS started.

Explain to me how overjustifying=scum.

I feel like Trevor is playing dumb here. At least some of the issues with over-justifying a vote have been pointed out, and frankly, the rationale for why you'd expect it to come from scum is pretty obvious.

lie detected

I feel like this attack against Chevre was contrived.

I hate how BBMolla shows up to vote Chevre and ignores what is actually going on in the game at that moment.

I'm not sure what MattPs motivation was in creating his own list of lurkers to die rather than just going along with Spyrex's death list.

The entire lurking=scum is dumb. Why would you lurk as scum? Posting as scum is a lot easier imo than as town. Also: people are more interested in games they are scum in. No one looks at a game and says, "Nah, I'm not interested in this game I am scum in."

I'm reconsidering my town-read on Trevor after this. He's questioning pretty rational scum-tells far too much and his reasons for doing so are poor.

1) Many people have a much harder time posting as scum than as town, and the reason is simple: as town people can basically post whatever they are thinking, but as scum they have to fake it.

2) Lurking is an effective strategy as scum because people often don't notice lurkers and choose to lynch people for actively scummy play instead, and in normal games getting the town together to lynch a lurker is often tough.

Meaning there are potentially HUGE odds of hitting town right now.

Fear-mongering.

Do you thinking that we should let the lurkers live to end-game?

I think that we need to start lynching from some of the people the counter wagons to the town lynches have been on. If we hit scum, we get insight into the people pushing the other wagons. However, I approve of the plan to off the lurkers, but I think that we should be smart about it. I do not think that post count alone is a reasonable distinguish who should die. For instance, I would not put Zajnet on the death list.

So

Unvote
Vote: Milk

[Amrun]

Zdenek is town.

[Amrun]

VOTE: milk

[Hoopla]

VOTE: Milf

[petapan]

VOTE: milk

honestly at this point i'm dealing with a theory that this is a kooky bastard game and there is an abnormally low number of scum in it. There, I said it.

[Staeg]

VOTE: milk

honestly at this point i'm dealing with a theory that this is a kooky bastard game and there is an abnormally low number of scum in it. There, I said it.

The thought of a sole SK (and mimes) anti-town force crossed my mind but I dismissed it, so there's that

vote: milk

[SpyreX]

unvote, vote: milk

[petapan]

VOTE: milk

honestly at this point i'm dealing with a theory that this is a kooky bastard game and there is an abnormally low number of scum in it. There, I said it.

The thought of a sole SK (and mimes) anti-town force crossed my mind but I dismissed it, so there's that

vote: milk

what about an SK with a one-shot governor power