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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:16 pm
by AngryPidgeon
In post 2123, Majiffy wrote:Why are you worried about being tied to a player that isn't even up to lynch?
Why the fuck is qwints saying that my hammer was bad. He was VOTING Amrun and now my hammer is super suspicious...for protecting Enomis. I don't see how he can possibly buy that.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:19 pm
by AngryPidgeon
This also scares me though.
"Look guys I have absolutely no problem being lynched ....BECAUSE IM NOT SCUM"
Town SHOULD have an issue with being lynched. Gragh.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:21 pm
by Wisdom
no, he had switched to enomis
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:23 pm
by qwints
In post 2125, AngryPidgeon wrote: In post 2123, Majiffy wrote:Why are you worried about being tied to a player that isn't even up to lynch?
Why the fuck is qwints saying that my hammer was bad. He was VOTING Amrun and now my hammer is super suspicious...for protecting Enomis. I don't see how he can possibly buy that.
The problem with your play isn't suspecting Amrun, it's the fact that you were on enomis, were getting support for that wagon and decided to jump off and hammer it. Then there's the fact that you CALLED ENOMIS SCUM WHEN YOU HAMMERED SOMEONE ELSE:
In post 2020, AngryPidgeon wrote:I tell myself I'll get motivated to do this on the weekends all week and then I just wanna not think hard about anything on the weekends >.>
Intent to hammer Amrun.
This game isn't going forward any other way.
Enomis doesn't want to hammer Amrun because hes nervous scum (regardless of Amruns flip).
You were on enomis all day, but as soon as he became a viable target as opposed to me or amrun, you decided to hammer. That's why I think you and enomis makes sense.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:25 pm
by Wisdom
In post 1995, Grimgroove wrote:
Elyse giving so many townreads is indeed very townish. Scum wouldn't do that in a nightless.
Grim called Elyse town after she gave reads, yet called her scum today again. What gives?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:26 pm
by AngryPidgeon
And what his Amrun scumread just dissolved entirely?
If he thought she was super town or _I_ thought she was super town then I'd get it, but I never did and afaik he never did.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:27 pm
by AngryPidgeon
Also the 'join me qwints' is not how you address someone you think is scum.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:30 pm
by qwints
Moving to today's lynch, why the hell haven't you voted for Grim yet AP? You've had him on your scum team forever.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:33 pm
by AngryPidgeon
In post 2128, qwints wrote:You were on enomis all day, but as soon as he became a viable target as opposed to me or amrun, you decided to hammer. That's why I think you and enomis makes sense.
Enomis was not viable though. Too many people were voteparking Amrun and there was pages and pages of me butting my head with Wisdom and Amrun about bullshit and everyone was who knows where (Enomis, Venmar) or unwilling to waver on their vote (Mollie, Majiffy, Wisdom). GG was waffling a little on it but kept going back to Amrun and never indicating that he had interest in actually switching.
The day was becoming nothing but spam. It was time for a flip and Amrun was going to be a continuous distraction even with the Enomis flip.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:36 pm
by AngryPidgeon
In post 2132, qwints wrote:Moving to today's lynch, why the hell haven't you voted for Grim yet AP? You've had him on your scum team forever.
Because Im waffling scum, obviously.
And can't decide if you would be bold enough to blatantly call me scum and ask me to sheep you in the same swing as scum.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:17 pm
by Majiffy
First she ties herself to Amrun as if you're supposed to suddenly read her as town if Amrun flips town.
Then she repeatedly makes comments about Coug, tying those two lynches together.
She's trying to get people to mentally link her alignment to two flipped townies.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:41 pm
by Grimgroove
In post 2126, AngryPidgeon wrote:
This also scares me though.
"Look guys I have absolutely no problem being lynched ....BECAUSE IM NOT SCUM"
Town SHOULD have an issue with being lynched. Gragh.
You think just because I put myself in the lynchpool I will have no problem with being lynched? I will have a huge fucking (for emphasis) problem with anyone who votes me, definitely those voting me for "gray" reasons. But I've been noticing these scumreads on me with very little factual background, and I want to put those people in the spotlight, especially qwints at this point, who tried to remain out of it by taking easy shots at the close to universal scumread that is Grimgroove.
Wisdom is calling for a policy lynch on me because I didn't do what town wanted. Really? With all this other stuff to get reads from, this is his line of thinking now? And NOBODY calls him out on it.
Qwints is trying to get people on my wagon, but his reasons for suspicion on me are artificial at best, gonig to go over his posts later today and show you how. He should definitely be the lynch today.
Elyse, well, given qwints is scum, Elyse possibly isn't, despite her scary clairvoyancy on both the Amrun and Nobody Special flips. I know she's going to vote me after having called me obvscum plenty of times, but there's other players in this game that will have a more objective view on things, I'm sure. Yes, I did want Amrun lynched, no, they were not for out-of-the-blue-reasons. BUT if there's any color-team with two scums in it, it's the green one. The QT they've shared is the most fakable, and both people are scummy in their own right.
I'm not going to pretend I had a plan with that challenge, it was more a spur of the moment and if I hadn't come online last night, I probably wouldn't have done it this morning, but let me ask you this: Is there anyone who seriously believes there's no scum in the lynchpool? If you don't: shut up about this not having been the right thing to do.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:46 pm
by Grimgroove
In post 2129, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1995, Grimgroove wrote:
Elyse giving so many townreads is indeed very townish. Scum wouldn't do that in a nightless.
Grim called Elyse town after she gave reads, yet called her scum today again. What gives?
You called me town only yesterday and now you're voting me, what gives?
People can't change their mind, really? I thought it was a townish thing to do at the time, yes, but considering how she's not been a leading factor in any of the lynches so far, I don't consider it that telling anymore. Considering how town has managed to convince each other to lynch town already twice without her doing, Elyse-scum can just continue sailing on that wave and pick out the scummy ones among the failed scumhunters. It's so easy. You stand by the sideline, townread those who are wrongly suspected of being scum, and then scumread those reading others wrongly and appoint scummy reasons to their reads.
Read Elyse's posts. There's an all-knowing aura around her posts, she KNOWS how people will flip, you can sense it from everything she says. She's now trying to cash in on this "all)knowingness" in two ways: towncred + getting me lynched by calling me obvscum.
That ain't right I tell you. It ain't right and it ain't fair.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:53 pm
by Grimgroove
I know how lame this argument usually sounds, but the truth is that that was a reaction test. At the time I was seeing an Amrun-qwints scumteam as one of the possibilities, and wanted to see how he would respond to a direct question asking him to hammer Amrun.
The entire thing with Amrun blew up in my face, or at least it feels that way. But my town-intentions in the entire ordeal should be pretty obvious to anyone. I was convinced because of a perceived scumslip (I caught Amrun in a lie, for fucks sakes!) I write down my thoughts as soon as they present themselves. Yes, just ISO me, I know I told you not to do so before without context, but you all know the context by now. See how it's a free flow, not hindered by any preponderings of how certain things seem. Do I sound calculated to you? Or do you think Grimgroove-scum would just blurt out anything based on the hype of the day and think he could get away with that?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:54 pm
by Grimgroove
In post 2132, qwints wrote:Moving to today's lynch, why the hell haven't you voted for Grim yet AP? You've had him on your scum team forever.
That's pretty funny. Can you guys see how this is funny?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:07 pm
by Grimgroove
In post 2126, AngryPidgeon wrote:
This also scares me though.
"Look guys I have absolutely no problem being lynched ....BECAUSE IM NOT SCUM"
Town SHOULD have an issue with being lynched. Gragh.
By the way, just by ways of showing very few are above inconsistencies:
You had a townread on Amrun the whole way through, and she has asked to be lynched repeatedly and showed disappointment over not having died sooner.
I'm NOT holding this against you though. I consider you town since that whole burst about your real-life actions coupled with thoughts on this game, and was pretty convinced by it. Your psots feel similar to mine in a way, not contentwise, but the way the naturally flow from your fingers without a lot of apparent preconsideration. I have the same feeling with Wisdom. And with pirate_mollie. I'm not talking about content here, there's been a lot of disagreement, but it's just a reassuring posting method to me because it shows a degree of lack of concern that scum can't fake during more than 80 pages.
Elyse, enomis, qwints, and ever since the first challenge Majiffy: they sound like the masters of calculus treating all of this like a simple 1+1=2, knowing all the x's and y's.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:33 pm
by Majiffy
Then you should vote Elyse with me.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:00 pm
by Wisdom
In post 2135, Majiffy wrote:
First she ties herself to Amrun as if you're supposed to suddenly read her as town if Amrun flips town.
Then she repeatedly makes comments about Coug, tying those two lynches together.
She's trying to get people to mentally link her alignment to two flipped townies.
Bullcrap. I don't see any of that.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:01 pm
by Wisdom
UNVOTE:
VOTE: qwints
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:04 pm
by Majiffy
In post 2142, Wisdom wrote: In post 2135, Majiffy wrote:
First she ties herself to Amrun as if you're supposed to suddenly read her as town if Amrun flips town.
Then she repeatedly makes comments about Coug, tying those two lynches together.
She's trying to get people to mentally link her alignment to two flipped townies.
Bullcrap. I don't see any of that.
It's ok I have lowered expectations for you.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:05 pm
by Wisdom
Majiffy has to go tomorrow. This does not feel even remotely like his town play anymore. He's not even trying.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:12 pm
by Majiffy
Lining up lynches?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:12 pm
by Majiffy
And seriously on a late policy?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:16 pm
by Wisdom
wtf? Policy? Did you miss the fact that I think you're scum?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:17 pm
by Wisdom
In post 2136, Grimgroove wrote:Wisdom is calling for a policy lynch on me because I didn't do what town wanted. Really? With all this other stuff to get reads from, this is his line of thinking now? And NOBODY calls him out on it.
The same goes for this btw
Wtf
I didn't vote you because you challenged.