Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:51 am
Because I think her behavior is mindboggingly irritating, but null.In post 2123, Shadoweh wrote:Tierce why aren't you voting Amrun?
Because I think her behavior is mindboggingly irritating, but null.In post 2123, Shadoweh wrote:Tierce why aren't you voting Amrun?
I appreciate your honesty, but in that case I think it's still scummy, as it was the "I need to TOWN DOUBLEEXTRAHARD" bit that bugged me in the first place. (After thinking about it, it probably would have been scummy regardless of your answer to my question, so.)In post 2120, Nautilius wrote:"I expected you to have a solid townread on me now" was directed at Shadoweh.
The rest was more directed to the general populace.
Yes, that is literally what I am saying. There is more town motivation to using the fruit N1 than scum. What aren't you getting about this?In post 2058, quadz08 wrote:You are saying he would not use his fruit N1 because town wouldn't use their fruit N1. You are literally saying "he is town for making a suboptimal town play, because scum would make the optimal town play." Do you not see where the logic falls apart?
I think Walking Dead was a unique situation that isn't likely to replicate itself--if you look back our D1 townblock is almost entirely the group of people that were most active during the 4 hour D1--maybe it was just circumstances or coincidence, but the town was really, REALLY ready to start playing that game and all of the scum got left out completely (sans Thor). I don't see that sort of situation happening here, do you?In post 2056, Nautilius wrote:I think you're town now.
I was sort of hoping we could Walking Dead this game and keeping you in the pool was my hint to you. I know that people can be lurky as town though, so I've just been waiting for you to be cool and town it up for me.
Amrun is scum because she's lurking like hell and doesn't know why I find that suspicious.
Keep beating that drum.In post 2114, Cephrir wrote:Personally I appreciate humongous note dumps. Just make it better than Messiah's if you're going to do that.
Can someone else help me out here? Is my point difficult to understand, or incorrect? Clearly Desp and I aren't seeing eye-to-eye on this, and I am completely at a loss on how to make him understand my point.In post 2127, Messiah Complex wrote:Yes, that is literally what I am saying. There is more town motivation to using the fruit N1 than scum. What aren't you getting about this?In post 2058, quadz08 wrote:You are saying he would not use his fruit N1 because town wouldn't use their fruit N1. You are literally saying "he is town for making a suboptimal town play, because scum would make the optimal town play." Do you not see where the logic falls apart?
Let me try again. I think town JOAT would be more likely to hang on to their investigative 1-Shots for when they have more information, whereas scum have incentive to use those abilities early (especially SD's track/roleblock combo) while they're a) still alive and b) have the most opportunity to hit town PRs. In addition to this, SD sending his fruit to us specifically read,In post 2129, quadz08 wrote:Can someone else help me out here? Is my point difficult to understand, or incorrect? Clearly Desp and I aren't seeing eye-to-eye on this, and I am completely at a loss on how to make him understand my point.In post 2127, Messiah Complex wrote:Yes, that is literally what I am saying. There is more town motivation to using the fruit N1 than scum. What aren't you getting about this?In post 2058, quadz08 wrote:You are saying he would not use his fruit N1 because town wouldn't use their fruit N1. You are literally saying "he is town for making a suboptimal town play, because scum would make the optimal town play." Do you not see where the logic falls apart?
No, hence why I backed off a bit.In post 2127, Messiah Complex wrote:I think Walking Dead was a unique situation that isn't likely to replicate itself--if you look back our D1 townblock is almost entirely the group of people that were most active during the 4 hour D1--maybe it was just circumstances or coincidence, but the town was really, REALLY ready to start playing that game and all of the scum got left out completely (sans Thor). I don't see that sort of situation happening here, do you?
I'm on the side of the fact that literally everyone is only involved with themselves makes me very bored.
see I hate this. the walking dead was not unique, in fact it is my favourite way to play. on the site that fery and I come from it is pretty much standard practice and I was surprised that it was not used on here. fery is better at explaining things that I am plus she is more persuasive. nacho gets it too cos he has seen how it works but the vets don't seem to be open to it so it is hard to get them on board (I tried in red wedding and no, it didn't work) and if nacho would have gone that route I would have supported him cos he is a better orator than I am although I have been able to do it micros and some minithemes, depends on the playerlist.In post 2127, Messiah Complex wrote:I think Walking Dead was a unique situation that isn't likely to replicate itself--if you look back our D1 townblock is almost entirely the group of people that were most active during the 4 hour D1--maybe it was just circumstances or coincidence, but the town was really, REALLY ready to start playing that game and all of the scum got left out completely (sans Thor). I don't see that sort of situation happening here, do you?
He didn't replace out in the second game so there isn't enough data here to really make that a viable tell. And personally, I didn't feel his replace out was weird at all until Shadoweh brought up that theory (also, ooba makes a good point in his #2090 about his protracted reaction).In post 2085, macmollie wrote:so he was scum in 2, town in 2, replaced out both times as scum
that isn't why I originally said his replace was weird ohso long ago tho
Well when Llamarble and I last talked, we both liked Andy's replace out / AGar's entrance into the thread, particularly the energy of the latter but I feel like there's been somewhat of a fade into complacency that really bothers (2047 is an example of this + the whole post is just fucking awful generally). We haven't had a chance to talk since I came back though so I'm hoping we can do it really soon to hash out where we are.
Man, I really want to be super amped here but the truth is I just feel like this game got way harder.
I don't understand your thought process. Can you explain?In post 2046, Garruk Relentless wrote:You can see my thought process throughout the past two pages. "research" I guess is a bit of a misnomer.
Hasn't this already been explained clearly enough?In post 2048, Messiah Complex wrote:I know what it's like to be totally bogged down by too many games and too many real life responsibilities, and I never ever ever would have considered using them as an excuse as scum. I presume you have some statistical evidence that proves I'm wrong about this, yeah?
Okay.In post 2076, macmollie wrote:I thought I kind of explained to goat people why I voted them in #1978; it was their vote on elle. are you wanting to know why I am them as town for now? it is cos of the emotional internal consistency in their responses. I think they are wrong about that post and I am struggling to see how on earth they are seeing that that post implies that elle knew thor's alignment ahead of time. I don't like their post #2012 to quadz where he says he thinks that naut's post #1956 felt exaggerated and thought it might be due to nacho feeling "less likely to be townread this game". like that is so divorced from d1 reality it is not even funny. so they have been moved to null but treating as town for now to see where it goes.
Why?In post 2108, Garruk Relentless wrote:Still pretty sure Alchemist is Syryana, but whatever, he's hard lurking so there's that. I'm hoping for an alt slip to confirm it.
But the entire argument you're having with SafetyDance is about how it isn't null behaviour. :s I just want you to guide me to the scum lynching promised land Tierce!In post 2125, Tierce wrote:Because I think her behavior is mindboggingly irritating, but null.In post 2123, Shadoweh wrote:Tierce why aren't you voting Amrun?
I really wanted to bring it up earlier but the game wasn't over yet. >_> Keep in mind when he replaced out to your head it would be similar to what he did as a 'confirmed town mason'. It's not I HAVE YOU NOW level but it's weird enough to poke.Alfred Borden wrote: He didn't replace out in the second game so there isn't enough data here to really make that a viable tell. And personally, I didn't feel his replace out was weird at all until Shadoweh brought up that theory (also, ooba makes a good point in his #2090 about his protracted reaction).