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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:48 am
by skitter30
In post 2120, Gamma Emerald wrote:I only used gold last night to protect my target because I was salty after Creature died
You targeted me, right?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:53 am
by skitter30
In post 2122, Shoshin wrote:The scum are NSG & Skitter.
Like this seems kknda ???? And came out of nowhere like, you werent scumreading me until like yesterday irl as far as i can tell. Nor do i know why - as far as i can tell the main issue you have with my play is thr gamma unvote from day1 that, again, you didnt bring up until yesterday, like a good month after the fact

And imo im kinda outside of my scumrange and im a little surprised that you havent referenced meta at all

And you seem to be insinuating a tracker guilty on me but are being vague. If this is a thing be explicit so i can vote you for lying

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:55 am
by skitter30
I also really, really dont like how secretive you're being about gold/gacha

And also about your reads for like no disernible reason

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:10 am
by Shoshin
It sucks to be caught, Skitter. But you are caught.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:12 am
by skitter30
Why do you feel so wrong????

Again: you should claim (role + gacha) and flavor claim

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:14 am
by skitter30
In post 2125, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2120, Gamma Emerald wrote:I only used gold last night to protect my target because I was salty after Creature died
You targeted me, right?
Also given that nobody else has an explanation for where the nk went, this is an indicator that scum tried to kill me and failed given that gamma targeted me (since i got his food) and he said he used a protective on his target

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:16 am
by skitter30
Also im starting to wonder if being vague about switcheroo was a like a ruse to explain why you didnt die

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:16 am
by Shoshin
Actually, Gamma targeted me with his gold protection. I know because I tracked him.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:17 am
by skitter30
Also the fact that you wont engage with anyone normally or like talk to them or answer questions or like anything is kinda ???

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:18 am
by skitter30
In post 2132, Shoshin wrote:Actually, Gamma targeted me with his gold protection. I know because I tracked him.
That seems weird because i got his food. Did you not see him going to me?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:22 am
by skitter30
Id also like to know the results of the neo and jk

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:22 am
by Shoshin
Meh, I suppose I'll just claim. Scum already know, anyway.

I switcheroo'd myself & Skitter. Yes, I was hoping scum would try to kill me so that Skitter would die.

Gamma's obviously in a position to confirm the switch, since he targeted me last night with the food. It ended up switching to Skitter. If scum tried to kill me, it also would have switched to Skitter. But my guess is that scum didn't nightkill.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:23 am
by Shoshin
Anyway, we need to lynch me (i.e. Skitter) and NSG. That should win us the game.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:27 am
by skitter30
A) you said yesterday that you used it last dayphase

B) why would scum no-kill

C) if you tracked gamma and you saw him visit you, why did i get the food. Maybe i dont get what it does but i was under the impression that everything that happened to player A would now happen to player B ... if you tracked gamma and saw him going to you doesnt that mean you actually saw him go to me?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:28 am
by Shoshin
I lied. Gamma visited you. Which means he targeted me.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:28 am
by skitter30
In post 2137, Shoshin wrote:Anyway, we need to lynch me (i.e. Skitter) and NSG. That should win us the game.
You wanted a nolynch, explain

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:29 am
by skitter30
In post 2139, Shoshin wrote:I lied. Gamma visited you. Which means he targeted me.
Why did you lie about this?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:30 am
by skitter30
Ngl that feels like you messed up what result you were supposed to get from switcheroo given known night actions

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:33 am
by skitter30
In post 2139, Shoshin wrote:I lied. Gamma visited you. Which means he targeted me.
What result did you actually get ... i know he visited me last night because i got food (and was told it came from him)

If you swapped me and you, you should have seen him visit me still; what changed is that he didnt intend to visit me, but meant ti visit you ...

Why would he not object to me announcing i got his food then

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:34 am
by Shoshin
Scum probably didn't kill because they knew I had a 1-shot tracker, so they wanted to avoid getting caught. That seems fairly obvious, don't you think?

The fact that Gamma was able to prove his role means he's town 99% of the time. So I'm never never lynching Gamma's slot. Ever.

I also have strong reasons to believe Pork & Nos are town. And I have strong reasons -- behavioral reasons -- to believe Skitter & NSG are scum. If necessary, I will make cases on both.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:36 am
by skitter30
Yes i think you should make cases on both

Purposefully no-killing isnt fairly obvious at all, no. Ehy is that obvious? Why would they not kill because you have tracker when they killed when you had jk?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:37 am
by skitter30
In post 2144, Shoshin wrote:Scum probably didn't kill because they knew I had a 1-shot tracker, so they wanted to avoid getting caught. That seems fairly obvious, don't you think?
This really makes like no sense at all

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:40 am
by skitter30
Or more accurately, it maked a superficial level of sense but is incredibly reachy given they killed the night before when you had jk and could get pseudo guilties and innos with that too

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:41 am
by skitter30
@gamma: who did u target last night?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:46 am
by Shoshin
JK doesn't confirm anyone as town/scum, and at the time, we weren't about to enter LYLO. Those two facts change everything.

Here, we were about to enter a mislynch-or-lose situation regardless of whether scum killed, so there wasn't any reason for scum to kill. In my experience, scum often don't kill in these situations because it puts them at needless risk and narrows the potential mislynches. And that's especially the case when there's a known tracker who could catch them committing the kill. If scum are remotely competent (and Skitter/NSG is at least this competent), they probably don't kill in this situation.

And even if scum killed last night, all it means is that scum targeted me for the kill, which means I'm confirmed town (as is Gamma).