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Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:29 pm

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Only thing that holds me back on the BB/TIC is that when Creature is town he's usually obv town and he hasn't been so far this game.
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Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:37 pm

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In post 2121, Celestial Coordinates wrote:How can any of the remaining slots be town it like it doesn't make sense to me how all of you played so bad
I overcommitted. I’ve got too much in my life to play a game this large. Hence I look drunk.
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Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:19 pm

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In post 2103, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 2101, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2076, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I think TIC is scum and if Creature is town here, it could be TIC/Gamma.

I really think Kokichi’s town.
this cant be any more wrong
Which part? I’m assuming TIC/Gamma.

Did you ever consider the possibility that the reason Carca didn’t mention any message, was because maybe she never actually received one?


Kokichi messaging you checks out because of RB N1 and you being asetic N3.

I just think that he most likely going to wind up flipping green. Do you really think that scum!Kokichi argues here with dead FL over being roleblocked?
Youre making no sense
Gamma is obvtown and gamma would never fakeclaim something that can be so easily confirmed
Kokichi has done nothing town
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Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:21 pm

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In post 2119, Celestial Coordinates wrote:Bbmolla gamma
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Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:02 pm

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In post 2114, BBmolla wrote:Has anyone answered me why they think TiC is town

Cause I’m fairly confident at this point it’s blatantly TiC/Koki
This is why Kokichi is town. He clearly isn’t linked to anyone. The only possible player he could be even remotely linked to is Gamma, which would make absolutely no sense in this setup, so Kokichi has to be town, based on this alone.

Plus, nothing he’s said in this game doesn’t check out. And I townread him by play, as well.

I also think now, that Creature is town and that scum!TIC wouldn’t not bus Creature, if they could. It makes no sense for scum!TIC to clear Carca and not take advantage of a Creature mislynch.

My TIC scumread was soley based on Creature being scum. Eveyone but us is scumreading Kokichi, which means he’s town here. Kokichi is scum in everyone’s analysis but ours and Wisdom is just wrong. So, by everyone who isn’t obvtown.
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Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:04 pm

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Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:05 pm

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youre just throwing random words in posts and hitting submit
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Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:12 pm

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In post 2118, Celestial Coordinates wrote:Honestly creature is prolly just trash town and scum is bbmolla/thor
He was 100% certain that Creature was town, when Creature was very far from being read obvtown by anyone else. I was townreading molla based on the extreme unlikeliness of scum hardtown reading their scumpal, the way molla did to Creature.

But what Creature is saying makes perfect sense. We mislynch Creature and molla gets instant towncred by being the only one to correctly townread him. I think scum didn’t anticipate him suddenly obvtowning it and that has completely screwed up their plans.

Creature, you can thank RC for this. I would have mislynched you, so RC is GOAT in this game.
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Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:34 pm

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In post 2119, Celestial Coordinates wrote:Bbmolla gamma
Based on wagonomics, it seems likely.

Everyone other than us/Wisdom has been pushing a TIC lynch - including Creature, who has now done a 180 on that slot.

So once again, no TIC associatives. TIC has also cleared Carca as has everyone else, excpt for Gamma. I don’t remember Creature’s stance on her but she has been hard defended by us/Kokichi/Wisdom/TIC. TIC has also cleared Gamma.

The only player who isn’t clear who hasn’t been pushed by anyone except for scum!Thor - who isn’t lockclear is Gamma.

Just like molla’s hardtown stance on Creature, Thor was equally insistent on Gamma being scum. No way scum pushes a mislynch that hard. I think Thor was hardbussing Gamma for towncred. If Gamma had flipped green, Thor would obviously have been next. Scum!Thor insisting we still lynch Gamma - knowing he was getting lynched, is a dead giveaway.

Gamma isn’t clear due to Wisdom track. Molla was probably the one who made the kill.

Molla is hard pushing TIC/Kokichi as as scum, which means he isn’t w/w with either.
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Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:37 pm

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Creature is just pretty blatant genuine town but whatever makes you not lynch him idc
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Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:49 pm

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Yeah I’m gonna have to stop you there RC (I’m officially calling that you’re the one spouting this paranoid froth about me being scum). Why the fuck do I pull up information from a Discord chat to bust Thor if we’re scum?
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Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:52 pm

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In post 2125, Kokichi Oma wrote:Only thing that holds me back on the BB/TIC is that when Creature is town he's usually obv town and he hasn't been so far this game.
Yeah, I thought he was obvscum but his recent posts don’t make sense coming from scum. At any rate, I think we lynch molla today.

If we’re somehow wrong on Gamma being scum, then TIC will try to stop a molla lynch. I don’t think scum busses at this point, unless it’s self-pres.

If molla flips green, then TIC is probably scum.

Scum!molla is far more likely, based on Thor ISO. Scum doesn’t usually that hardtown read their buddy, scum is far more likely to either softtown read or null them. The reasoning is obvious. Hardtowning your buddy, looks bad if they flip. Hardscum reading generally only happens in the case of a bus. The same can also be true for scumleaning a slot but hard alignment reads by scum are more often then not highly AI. So likely town for TIC and scum for Gamma, unless Thor is that brilliant a player and flipped the script here.
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Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:10 pm

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In post 2135, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah I’m gonna have to stop you there RC (I’m officially calling that you’re the one spouting this paranoid froth about me being scum). Why the fuck do I pull up information from a Discord chat to bust Thor if we’re scum?
This isn’t RC, although we’re apparently mindmelding here. Why couldn’t you both have gambitted in hard bussing each other?

You could have both decided that the surviving one of you would get towncred.

Bussing usually happens early, it’s far less likely to happen later in a game, so based on lack of associatives, makes you more likely to be scum than Kokichi.

I see no world, where either scum!molla or scum!TIC allows their buddy to get lynched here, so either one flipping green, spews the other one scum.

A molla green flip, looks the worst for TIC and maybe Kokichi.

So, it’s either molla/Gamma or TIC/you, TIC/Kokichi.

In any case, if molla flips green than TIC is scum, so we lynch TIC in that case.

If molla flips red, than you, because I doubt scum!molla hardbusses Kokichi at this point.
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Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:13 pm

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In post 2134, BBmolla wrote:Creature is just pretty blatant genuine town but whatever makes you not lynch him idc
Why would you sacrifice yourself for Creature? You’ve both claimed VT.
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Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:18 pm

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In post 2133, Celestial Coordinates wrote:No way scum pushes a mislynch that hard
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Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:21 pm

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I dont even know what to type. Yourr just trying yiur best to side with scum here.
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Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:24 pm

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Creature is transparently obvscum and kokichi is 99.9% the other scum

Gamma has been transparently obvtown from the beginning

Everything else is bullshit
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Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:27 pm

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So, one of molla/TIC has to be scum here, that’s why we have to lynch there. Based on Thor associatives, molla is far more likely to be scum than TIC.

But one of them has to be scum here. So I think lynching molla today is the correct play. Molla red flip, spews Gamma scum.

Molla green flip, spews TIC scum.
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Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:29 pm

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In post 2140, Wisdom wrote:I dont even know what to type. Yourr just trying yiur best to side with scum here.
Yeah, we want to lose. :roll:
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Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:31 pm

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I know
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Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:35 pm

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In post 2141, Wisdom wrote:Creature is transparently obvscum and kokichi is 99.9% the other scum

Gamma has been transparently obvtown from the beginning

Everything else is bullshit
Why does scum!Creature do a 180 on TIC?

Why is TIC voting molla over Creature?

Something isn’t adding up if you’re theory is correct.

Why has scum!Creature been hardtown reading Gamma and implying that it’s molla/Kokichi?
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Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:35 pm

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In post 2137, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 2135, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah I’m gonna have to stop you there RC (I’m officially calling that you’re the one spouting this paranoid froth about me being scum). Why the fuck do I pull up information from a Discord chat to bust Thor if we’re scum?
This isn’t RC, although we’re apparently mindmelding here. Why couldn’t you both have gambitted in hard bussing each other?

You could have both decided that the surviving one of you would get towncred.

Bussing usually happens early, it’s far less likely to happen later in a game, so based on lack of associatives, makes you more likely to be scum than Kokichi.

I see no world, where either scum!molla or scum!TIC allows their buddy to get lynched here, so either one flipping green, spews the other one scum.

A molla green flip, looks the worst for TIC and maybe Kokichi.

So, it’s either molla/Gamma or TIC/you, TIC/Kokichi.

In any case, if molla flips green than TIC is scum, so we lynch TIC in that case.

If molla flips red, than you, because I doubt scum!molla hardbusses Kokichi at this point.
Yeah bussing is possible. But why do I get help as scum with Thor? Couldn’t he have coached me himself?
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Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:36 pm

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In post 2144, Wisdom wrote:I know
Ridiculous posts like this one, aren’t convincing us of anything. :roll:
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Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:37 pm

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In post 2145, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 2141, Wisdom wrote:Creature is transparently obvscum and kokichi is 99.9% the other scum

Gamma has been transparently obvtown from the beginning

Everything else is bullshit
Why does scum!Creature do a 180 on TIC?

Why is TIC voting molla over Creature?

Something isn’t adding up if you’re theory is correct.

Why has scum!Creature been hardtown reading Gamma and implying that it’s molla/Kokichi?
Because people do things
Stop ovrranalyzing and making random conclusions
None of this is significant
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Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:53 am

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In post 2068, Creature wrote:2055 should make pretty damn sense from someone who's not pretending to be lockscum on me.
In post 2071, Creature wrote:again, no scum here (save special snowflakes) would try to actively save me here if I was scum with them
In post 2079, Creature wrote:
In post 2073, Celestial Coordinates wrote:You’ve scumreading them, now you’re defending them?
I have one reason to townread them now: 2055
Actually Creature, these posts seem to contradict each other.

I disagree that scum doesn’t try to save you here. With Thor flip, I think the only reason scum busses at this point, is self-pres.
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