Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:42 pm
Reminder that once again Dunn isn't showing us the breadcrumbs.
Still trying to cobble them together?
Still trying to cobble them together?
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:43 pm
Nauci and Dunnstral will be tired of Blair Math™ from our last game together but I can break down why lynching today is ideal now that we have a guaranteed 1v1 if you are actually going to try to argue that my saying so is somehow scummy.
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:45 pm
(Notice how I am also the only one inviting other PRs to speak up if they have any information that can clear either of us in this 1v1 - too risky for Dunnstral to ask for the same)
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:54 pm
This - it's the reason I tracked youIn post 2002, Dunnstral wrote:(Blair is probably scum)
Lilith may have crumbed for what happened night 1 - I'm not sure.
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:12 pm
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:16 pm
This deserves attention as well.In post 2077, Dunnstral wrote:About what happened with Gibus: he was pretty obviously not the jailkeeper and I didn't want to give him the opportunity to claim pr before being lynched (because that would mean he's scum and I'd need to lynch him anyway, outting my own role in the process)
How was it so obvious to you that Gibus was not a PR that you needed to quickhammer him before he could claim?
(Note: That's not editorializing, that is his exact defense)
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:19 pm
In post 234, gibus wrote:I haven't made any read on him, but I'm thinking you both are masons.In post 232, CopyKat wrote:Do you disagree?
Because he thought other people were a mason pair early into the game - he essentially claimed vt at this point - no way town pr thinks someone else can be a mason.In post 235, gibus wrote:if you aren't scum that isIn post 234, gibus wrote:I haven't made any read on him, but I'm thinking you both are masons.In post 232, CopyKat wrote:Do you disagree?
I didn't want to give him a chance to fake a claim
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:20 pm
That's why he was "obviously vt or scum"
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:25 pm
Or he's a newbie in his second game on the site who doesn't understand the (needlessly complicated) semi-open setup.
I'm not saying that's definitely true. I am saying you definitely would have considered that possibility.
I'm not saying that's definitely true. I am saying you definitely would have considered that possibility.
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:26 pm
It's also why Nauci is wasting her time going through dozens of my games looking for a quick hammer
He essentially already claimed. Deadline was approaching. I made the correct play - I didn't want to get into an argument and maybe have to claim my role before I could get a result
He essentially already claimed. Deadline was approaching. I made the correct play - I didn't want to get into an argument and maybe have to claim my role before I could get a result
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:26 pm
I think it's pretty clearly laid out that masons can't exist with any other town power role - you're reaching to try to counter my pointsIn post 2133, Blair wrote:Or he's a newbie in his second game on the site who doesn't understand the (needlessly complicated) semi-open setup.
I'm not saying that's definitely true. I am saying you definitely would have considered that possibility.
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:28 pm
Players routinely misunderstood the mutual exclusivity of role combinations in Newbies. I think you probably know that.
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:30 pm
If you believed that was such a strong argument that he was basically claiming VT in post 234, then why are you lying about being afraid that you'd have to claim to get him lynched if he claimed a PR?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:33 pm
(Or course it's all a joke anyway - Dunnstral was right there when Gibus asked if he should claim. If he was that worried about it he could have let him claim and then hammered right after if he claimed a PR - nobody is buying that you were afraid you'd have to out yourself if he was allowed to claim)
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:34 pm
In post 2055, Blair wrote:^ This is the correct play.In post 2036, Nauci wrote:I don't usually game theory this kind of thing, but I feel like the logical route here is for TPR to claim only if they have successfully detected scum
If you have caught scum, you should claim. If you have cleared town, find a way to crumb it in case you're killed.
Her thoughts aren't lining up. She's throwing stuff out to try to fight against me. Read these two postsIn post 2094, Blair wrote:The entire premise of your claim was predicated on a lie, as well. Nauci was the only one aiming to lynch you today. I was explicitly supporting a no lynch.
Why would Town!Dunnstral claim here?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:36 pm
Tracking isn't "caught scum." You yourself admitted I could be JK and you would unvote if I was.
Who's reaching now?
Who's reaching now?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:37 pm
It's a strong argument to me. I'm not sure how other people will react. I decided to trust my own instincts.In post 2137, Blair wrote:If you believed that was such a strong argument that he was basically claiming VT in post 234, then why are you lying about being afraid that you'd have to claim to get him lynched if he claimed a PR?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:37 pm
You were 95% scum with my result since your predecessor awkwardly claimed vt unprompted and said they were 'bad at creating fakeclaims' or something like thatIn post 2140, Blair wrote:Tracking isn't "caught scum." You yourself admitted I could be JK and you would unvote if I was.
Who's reaching now?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:38 pm
That puts a target on my back for the scum to kill me. And maybe other people unvote him before I can hammer, etc. Not worth it. Nice to see this is what your argument has devolved into, thoughIn post 2138, Blair wrote:If he was that worried about it he could have let him claim and then hammered right after if he claimed a PR
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:39 pm
The only thing you can do is call me scum for the hammer
How about you who pushed him for all of last phase when pressure was building on yourself?
How about you who pushed him for all of last phase when pressure was building on yourself?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:46 pm
This post is interesting.In post 2108, Blair wrote:Notice something really important, by the way:
In Dunnstral's claim, he leaves the door open for me to possibly be the Jailkeeper - even though he is now arguing that there is a 0% chance that anyone would ever believe that (wouldn't that implicitly include him?)
He was hedging his bets just in case I really was.
Blair says I'd be 'hedging my bets' in case she was the jailkeeper
But the reason I'd think she's the jailkeeper in the first place is because I tracked her to Alortom.
...! This doesn't make sense for her to think as town
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:47 pm
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:48 pm
I don't remember there being pressure on me. One, maybe two people angled suspicion toward me?
I wanted him to claim at L-1. You didn't. You tell me who looks worse for that.
I wanted him to claim at L-1. You didn't. You tell me who looks worse for that.
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:50 pm
It's almost as if I was *gasp* viewing it from your perspective!In post 2145, Dunnstral wrote:...! This doesn't make sense for her to think as town
You know, like I very plainly was.
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:54 pm
Note: If there is a Cop or Mason present, you know Dunnstral is lying.