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Why are you doing this?

That was @titus obviously

Unless you’re intentionally lying about who you think is/isn’t outed how is this helpful to town?

And in the case that you are lying — how is this helpful to town?

NK, stop trying to deflect from being scum here. We should investigate in the not!TD that are already outed.

Your post NK supposes a world where scum haven't already narrowed down the TD in order to avoid investigating yourself.

The only way to win this is to go for the jugular and stop more slips before they happen.

In post 2123, Titus wrote:

In post 1870, Iconeum wrote:

NK will be inspected

i've fucking warned you guys about taking my day 1 picks into account
but if NK is insisting about being inspected himself he can fucking have it

Here too

I think you’re underestimating iconeum and its ability to wifom scum

In post 2127, Menalque wrote:And in the case that you are lying — how is this helpful to town?

I have no choice. We need to win with this investigation. If I know certain slots are not!TD, then scum know it too. Scum have the advantage of knowing themselves not!TD as well.

Redoing this investigation creates more slips.

I left out proof that didn't come from Ico for exactly this reason. Maybe scum think I am wrong. They are too close for us to dicker around reinvestigating.

Literally just the remaining people and work from there. If you think someone who has not been inspected could be scum, then say so.

In post 2130, Titus wrote:Redoing this investigation creates more slips.

NO IT DOESN'T????????????? REDOING THE INVESTIGATION SLIPS. ARE YOU TRYING TO PROTECT YOUR PARTNER OR WHAT?

In post 2128, Titus wrote:NK, stop trying to deflect from being scum here. We should investigate in the not!TD that are already outed.

Guess what - I am outed Not TD, yes. As are Datisi and Moment.
The others are not outed as Not TD. They might have behaved in a manner that makes you think they are Not TD, but that isn`t actually confirmed. Worse, if Iconeum and the TD did a good job hiding the TD we might accidentally investigate the TD. That is incredibly anti-town.

In post 2129, Menalque wrote:

In post 2123, Titus wrote:

In post 1870, Iconeum wrote:

NK will be inspected

i've fucking warned you guys about taking my day 1 picks into account
but if NK is insisting about being inspected himself he can fucking have it

Here too

I think you’re underestimating iconeum and its ability to wifom scum

I think you want to argue I am wrong because it makes you feel better. Sure, there's a theorectical wifom ability to it. Yet it's terrible play as conftown because investigate NK15, like you promised, will continue to be a thing and block scumhunting.

In post 2132, maxwell wrote:

In post 2130, Titus wrote:Redoing this investigation creates more slips.

NO IT DOESN'T????????????? REDOING THE INVESTIGATION

PREVENTS

SLIPS. ARE YOU TRYING TO PROTECT YOUR PARTNER OR WHAT?

It does if you could keep your pants on but you failed.

We need to win sooner rather than later.

i'm here

reading stuff

you guys should also probably talk about who is the second possible lynch, right?

In post 2131, maxwell wrote:Literally just

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the remaining people and work from there. If you think someone who has not been inspected could be scum, then say so.

I already have. I have proposed investigations on them. They already outed themselves as not!TD.

In post 2136, Iconeum wrote:i'm here

reading stuff

you guys should also probably talk about who is the second possible lynch, right?

Sure, let's have more people slip as not!TD.

ok

In post 2136, Iconeum wrote:i'm here

reading stuff

you guys should also probably talk about who is the second possible lynch, right?

I made my case two pages ago. Titus trying to deflect from literal safe re-inspections to check as many people outside as possible while publicly outing TD reads is suddenly giving me tremendous pause but if she is scum she's making a desperation heave to save one of datisi/moment and that's exactly why we should check them.

let me put it this way

is it a better plan for me to either confirm i'm ok with alisae as a lynch/i'm really not ok alisae as a lynch

if ok, there doesn't have to be a second name
if not ok, you guys figure out the next one

NK15 is proposing himself in the investigation and Titus accuses him of trying to deflect???? Like what the fuck. That's a losing strategy as scum.

This is to put aside the fact that publicly stating TD reads means fishing reactions from people, which aids scum in the exact way she claims to want to prevent.

In post 2136, Iconeum wrote:i'm here

reading stuff

you guys should also probably talk about who is the second possible lynch, right?

Yes, good point, but I haven’t yet established who my preference is

Coming into the day it was hel but now I wanna talk to moment about maxwell + I think titus doing this is quite possibly scum-motivated?

In post 2141, Iconeum wrote:let me put it this way

is it a better plan for me to either confirm i'm ok with alisae as a lynch/i'm really not ok alisae as a lynch

if ok, there doesn't have to be a second name
if not ok, you guys figure out the next one

I think probably we do mena's plan from day 1 and pick two names and you decide.

In post 2141, Iconeum wrote:let me put it this way

is it a better plan for me to either confirm i'm ok with alisae as a lynch/i'm really not ok alisae as a lynch

if ok, there doesn't have to be a second name
if not ok, you guys figure out the next one

Confirm, as you could just hard townread them of you say no.

If you say yes, you defer to the group which lets natural scumhunting happen and admits E spewed themselves notTD anyway.

In post 2141, Iconeum wrote:if not ok, you guys figure out the next one

If you were to say not!okay then if ali is scum scum know you’re bluffing about TD

If you say okay then ali is obviously not-TD

I guess my concern with titus!scum is that if titus!scum thinks it’s inevitable or highly likely that the final scum gets caught then winning is only possible via catching the TD and therefore there’s a lot of motivation to push a plan which gives as much info about the TD’s identity to scum as possible

In post 2147, Menalque wrote:I guess my concern with titus!scum is that if titus!scum thinks it’s inevitable or highly likely that the final scum gets caught then winning is only possible via catching the TD and therefore there’s a lot of motivation to push a plan which gives as much info about the TD’s identity to scum as possible

This is fair. I'm not scum but it's a valid thing you must sort through. Because if I am not scum, you know that I think I am right and the only way to shut them off is to find them. I do think we have a wolf objecting to my plan for that very reason. What scum wouldn't love the reinvestigate plan if the other plan is safer and gets them to survival anyway? Fewer conftown who everyone is TRing anyway. If scum were in Datisi+Moment, they would be sucking up to me, like they were at the start of the day. I think the presumption was that I would go for the confirms rather than follow my VCA. Suggesting a bit of newer scum with me.

I’ll grant that if you’re town it means +odds on maxwell scum

Although given that I think you’re just completely wrong on what we should do here I don’t think it’s out of whack that town would also be completely baffled by what you’re pushing atm

And like let’s say we investigated (maxwell, GL, hel)

Do you not see how that is probably losing if no tea is found?