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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:27 am
by skitter30
also ss, what do u think of raven?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:31 am
by dsjstr
In post 2020, Something_Smart wrote:The trick is to do no thinking until lylo

then scum can't set up the lylo they want because they don't know what anyone's reads are going to be
Way ahead of you on that thought.

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:10 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2125, skitter30 wrote:also ss, what do u think of raven?
Her posting is pretty sketchy, but I feel like I must be out of practice or something because it's incredibly bad form to get a scumread on someone from their opening posts.

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:26 am
by dsjstr
In post 2065, Datisi wrote:the only thing that the past ~3 pages have accomplished is making me want to execute between skitter and duck until we get a red flip (and maybe even further) even more

other than my initial impression of "skit and duck are both good players, and i doubt if they were TvT they would both be scumreading each other like this", now it's the fact that, while this dance is going, i don't think anyone is excitedly jumping around it trying to push one of them through (unless you wanna argue i'm doing that, but eh...) which is sorta what i'd expect if they *were* TvT

in other words, big sad. help.
This is basically where I'm at

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:42 am
by Alduskkel
I'm not really vibing with scumreads on Raven. Is there anything more to it than "her townread on skitter is too strong"?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:50 am
by Alduskkel
@Datisi: How strong is your TR on bugspray/Raven?

@skitter: Can you summarize your case on TW?
Also, can you elaborate on this more with quotes/examples?
In post 1273, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1272, Alduskkel wrote:so that makes TW's post scummy because ___
Oh that wasnt a response, that was an unrelated side comment, sorry

I finally put my finger on it: he feels incredibly self-aware in the gamestate, in setups of former games, but he isnt using that to sort people

Like he's saying he knew the dk vig shot was fake, but he held onto that knowledge for a while for no reason, really, and doing so didnt really seem to translate in any way to reads

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:59 am
by Datisi
In post 2130, Alduskkel wrote:@Datisi: How strong is your TR on bugspray/Raven?
In post 2124, skitter30 wrote:dats what do u think of raven?
i will soon (maybe later, maybe tomorrow) go over the games where bugs was scum and where i caught them to hopefully remind me what about their posting as scum gives me ~the feel~. and over some games bugs was town, but maybe i'll have to dive into second-hand meta because bugs seems to have a thing for rolling scum against me...

i am surprisingly null on raven. i've played with her before (i figured out your main, before you ask), and i'd usually correctly scumread her when scum, so the fact that i'm not doing that here might be town!indicative, but i'm not married to that.

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:01 am
by lilith2013
aldus, readslist please

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:02 am
by Something_Smart
V/LA until Monday

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:03 am
by lilith2013
boooooo

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:05 am
by lilith2013
I don't really feel like aldus has put in any effort into trying to solve the game (he claims he hasn't been able to get into scumhunting but I also haven't really seen townhunting). his posts are pretty passive. I'm probably still okay executing that slot (again, pending raven catchup)

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:05 am
by Something_Smart
I'm sorry, I'll try to schedule my family vacations to make my online mafia games more convenient next time :3

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:06 am
by lilith2013
cool thanks

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:06 am
by lilith2013
:P

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:07 am
by lilith2013
I hope you know I'm only booing because this game needs way more SS (and probably way less me). you're supposed to carry us to victory with logic and rationality etc etc

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:08 am
by Something_Smart
But not on day 1!

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:09 am
by Alduskkel
dsj town
datisi town
skitter town but i'm paranoid
SS null
Raven/bugspray town because datisi says so
Pooky scum
lilith leaning town
duck pending skitter responding to my post above but I'm leaning toward scum? sorting who's scum in TW vs skitter is a pain tho.

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:10 am
by Datisi
In post 2119, skitter30 wrote:i think i'll have more support for it as time goes on
skitt, assuming town!skit scum!duck world, what do you think are the odds (assuming we don't execute duck today) that he simply kills you tonight?

pedit: how are you null on s_s

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:10 am
by lilith2013
@dsjstr would also like reads from you please

pedit: fiiiiiine but I’m not responsible for anything dumb happening that you weren’t here to talk me out of!!!

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:12 am
by lilith2013
Yeah that readslist is not great

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:12 am
by skitter30
i'm having raven/aldu thoughts currently

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:13 am
by lilith2013
really????? what changed

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:13 am
by skitter30
In post 2130, Alduskkel wrote:Can you summarize your case on TW?
Also, can you elaborate on this more with quotes/examples?
at this point the case boils down to me thinking he's making up a reason to push me and that his reasoning is quite flimsy and disconnected
i shall elaborate this evening after work when i'm at a computer

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:14 am
by Alduskkel
what's wrong with the readslist and why is it weird to be null on SS

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:16 am
by Alduskkel
i'm interested to see why skitter is considering a Raven/me team because that sounds like bullshit to me