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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:28 pm
by Servant Alter Ego
In post 2121, Servant Saber wrote: In post 2079, Servant Caster wrote:yes i'm so hard to kill that a whole nobody is resisting my elimination
yes that is a ridiculous scumteam and all three of those players are town
sure, you expressed one thought once
yes, i'm discrediting you, your opinions are terrible. look at this discrediting! hey everyone berserker has bad reads and you shouldn't give them credit
announcer: wow, basically a confession from caster there, very interesting play, let's see if that pans out for him
VOTE: Caster
This AtE is yucky and flat out not true. There are multiple people defending Caster.
List Caster's defenders?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:30 pm
by Servant Rider
It's not AtE though? Over the top, sure.
Do you think Caster is scum now?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:31 pm
by Servant Avenger
it's kind of funny how Beast and I had the exact same reactions but moved in opposite directions when V3 Shielder replaced in.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:31 pm
by Servant Saber
In post 2113, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:I don't believe Shielder is scum.
And I don't believe Caster is scum.
I'm not really sure why people seem to feel so strongly that Rider is town. Rider's reads feel pretty hollow.
Can you elaborate more on this? Can you compare Rider to Ruler?
They've both been lurky according to my memory. Neither has answered my questions.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:32 pm
by Servant Rider
Hang on, what questions did you ask me I didn't answer?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:33 pm
by Servant Rider
@Moon Cancer, they could be. Part of me wonders if scum-Beast asks a partner the question they did. Mostly though, until I see a flip from someone I don't care.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:35 pm
by Servant Moon Cancer
Oh. How did Archer's flip affect your reads?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:35 pm
by Servant Saber
In post 1952, Servant Saber wrote:I wish people didn't post when I was asleep.
Part of me is against the Caster wagon but I don't have a strong reason why. Maybe I am just tunneled on Beast. A caster scumflip would lead to so many associations though, so I'll recheck my work.
Foreigner, who is scum to you? Are you at scum via PoE?
I'd like to hear from Rider and Ruler on Caster. I am sorry if you already commented. I am having trouble keeping similar names apart.
In post 1998, Servant Saber wrote:Foreigner 1, Hope things go well.
Foreigner 2, Welcome.
What's the VC at? I think I am going to have to decide this without hearing from the two Rs. I'll be back later today probably.
^^^ Things I want Rider to answer
VVVVV Caster's defenders
In post 1863, Servant Saber wrote: In post 1781, Servant Foreigner wrote:Caster wagon is pretty bad, not the people on it, outside shielder of course.
But it just isn't going to hit scum.
In post 1782, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:Does anyone on the Caster wagon think that it's going to go anywhere if you don't try to persuade a fairly large contingent of the game that Caster is likely to be scum?
If Caster is scum, one of these two is scum with him.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:35 pm
by Servant Avenger
In post 2114, Servant Rider wrote:Oh, while I'm thinking about it. I have a bit of unsolicited advice, Assassin. I think you should masterize Avenger.
I'm actually still waiting on this.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:37 pm
by Servant Caster
i mean foreigner replaced out and is now voting me and moon cancer explicitly is playing from the sidelines.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:38 pm
by Servant Rider
In post 1952, Servant Saber wrote:I wish people didn't post when I was asleep.
Part of me is against the Caster wagon but I don't have a strong reason why. Maybe I am just tunneled on Beast. A caster scumflip would lead to so many associations though, so I'll recheck my work.
Foreigner, who is scum to you? Are you at scum via PoE?
I'd like to hear from Rider and Ruler on Caster. I am sorry if you already commented. I am having trouble keeping similar names apart.
@Saber if you meant this, I did answer it (in
1965 and
1779). Caster's a townlean that degraded when I realized I'd been townreading him because I like him. Now I like him again, because my pep talk worked!
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:39 pm
by Servant Rider
Not much. I don't really like associatives. Never worked out well for me.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:41 pm
by Servant Avenger
Huh, they've worked out really well for me.
But I couldn't find anything definitive on this one.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:43 pm
by Servant Rider
I mean, everyone has something that works out for them. Associatives and me just never get along though.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:44 pm
by Servant Caster
i have sometimes wondered if associatives are the only thing in mafia that's actually real, but i keep relying on the other stuff anyways
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:45 pm
by Servant Avenger
Let's not get derailed guys.
I didn't start the derail.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:51 pm
by Servant Foreigner
UNVOTE: Servant Caster
They seem... pretty town. I'm not excited to be ousting shielder at this point either. Rider seems fine to me from what I've read, would not vote. Might need to read Ruler and Lancer.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:53 pm
by Servant Rider
Ruler and Lancer are good reads. Beast too. They're all fairly short ISOs as well.
Recommendation, when you read Lancer, read him in tandem with Assassin. They got into a fight early on that I think is pretty AI.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:07 pm
by Servant Assassin
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:24 pm
by Servant Foreigner
Nothing I've seen so far makes me think they're more likely to be scum than town
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:40 pm
by Servant Assassin
...And how much have you read?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:09 pm
by Servant Assassin
In post 2113, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:I don't believe Shielder is scum.
And I don't believe Caster is scum.
I'm not really sure why people seem to feel so strongly that Rider is town. Rider's reads feel pretty hollow.
If Rider is scum, who are their partners?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:35 pm
by Servant Foreigner
Since around the claim. Mostly Shielder #3, it would seem. And I read after Archer elim and the master vote
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:39 pm
by Servant Assassin
Because, I don't mean to sound patronizing, but if you're a recent sub in who's not up to speed, then it's a good idea to let the town who's been here the whole time fucking drive for a minute
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:07 pm
by Servant Moon Cancer
Are you asking because you think it's unlikely Rider is scum with, say, some combination of Lancer/Ruler/Saber/etc? Or are you just trying to figure out where my head is at?