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Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:06 pm

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what happened to auro >.>

it did read like a scumslip
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Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:06 pm

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In post 2108, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 38, Dannflor wrote:
In post 32, unwnd wrote:I'm hectic right now but don't tell
we are all hectic alts on this blessed day
This is the post that pinged me from Dannflor
It’s moon logic but I read this as a subtle scum claim
That’s entirely NAI.
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Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:09 pm

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In post 2118, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 2046, Flavor Leaf wrote:I've decided. This is my favorite role in mafia. Town Stump.

I just like...honestly don't not see me solving this game here when it gets to late game.

Like I can be 100% off right now, but I'm guaranteed to make it to end game, and I don't have to worry about rallying a specific type of momentum.

My entire goal is to just solve the puzzle. This is exhilarating.
This doesn't feel genuine. Are we sure that the game isn't to try and realize that Hectic is the Town stump and FL is Mafia?
:lol:

FL is lock confirmed town stump. I don’t think scum tries this kind of gambit. I think lunar is town.
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Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:10 pm

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In post 2120, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:Omg 85 pages ;-;
Skitter halp, what should I read

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Auro, stop trying to get us miselimed.
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Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:11 pm

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In post 2122, skitter30 wrote:honestly a lot of it is fluff i think a lot of people are just taking a 'eh i'll just read the last three pages and talk to whoever's around' sort of approach
Ah but are there any specific pages you think are important which I could take a look at?
skitter30 wrote: it did read like a scumslip
What? From my slot??? After I specifically asked my partners not to?

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Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:12 pm

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In post 2128, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote: Auro, stop trying to get us miselimed.
We're not doing town
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Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:15 pm

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In post 2125, skitter30 wrote:what happened to auro >.>

it did read like a scumslip
We are aesetic and I didn’t want to claim it because we can’t be protected. However, I didn’t know how we’d explain it otherwise if we were investigated with a “no results”. So I was trying to think of a claim that would account for that which wouldn’t get us killed and Auro is now back to trying to stop us from getting NK’d. Because he knows I didn’t want scum to know we’re asetic.
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Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:20 pm

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In post 2129, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 2122, skitter30 wrote:honestly a lot of it is fluff i think a lot of people are just taking a 'eh i'll just read the last three pages and talk to whoever's around' sort of approach
Ah but are there any specific pages you think are important which I could take a look at?
skitter30 wrote: it did read like a scumslip
What? From my slot??? After I specifically asked my partners not to?

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eh me/mt/chara interaction early in the game (like ~post 700 or so?)
gamma's wagon early game
xtoxm's pop-in
the small wagon on you that nancy was getting annoyed abt
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Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:21 pm

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In post 2129, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 2122, skitter30 wrote:honestly a lot of it is fluff i think a lot of people are just taking a 'eh i'll just read the last three pages and talk to whoever's around' sort of approach
Ah but are there any specific pages you think are important which I could take a look at?
skitter30 wrote: it did read like a scumslip
What? From my slot??? After I specifically asked my partners not to?

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TM has got me so overwhelmed and mentally exhausted (exactly like last year) that I hardly ate anything yesterday and almost fainted earlier. Ask Pooky, if anyone thinks I’m making this up. I still don’t feel great - even after finally getting some sleep because I fell asleep before I could really eat much of anything.
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Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:21 pm

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you should have just claimed ascetic and it looked like a slip
like four other people claimed ascetic already, and i don't think you should have been that worried abt getting protected or not
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Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:22 pm

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i am avoiding tm like the plague
it's just not worth it
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Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:23 pm

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In post 2130, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 2128, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote: Auro, stop trying to get us miselimed.
We're not doing town
COP
scum
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anymore?

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???

Hectic knows we’re aesetic now so what’s the point?
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Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:23 pm

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In post 1838, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:If we were to be investigated, how should I respond to that? I think claiming aesetic guarantees our death but I may have to if I can’t come up with a better explanation.
also this sounds like you were worried abt getting investigated, not abt getting protected
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Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:24 pm

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so....i don't know if i will be able to keep up with this game.
i work a 8-5 and i am starting night classes tomorrow.

ummmm this game might be too much
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Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:28 pm

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In post 2132, skitter30 wrote:eh me/mt/chara interaction early in the game (like ~post 700 or so?)
gamma's wagon early game
xtoxm's pop-in
the small wagon on you that nancy was getting annoyed abt
dannflor
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Gamma -> moderate townread
Xtoxm -> moderate townread
dann -> very weak townread

[Dann, no, I wouldn't have a good read on you this early. You think I should, by now? Very weak townread because your takes seem "free" (if that makes sense)]

Skitter30, which of these takes would you disagree with?

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Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:29 pm

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In post 2134, skitter30 wrote:you should have just claimed ascetic and it looked like a slip
like four other people claimed ascetic already, and i don't think you should have been that worried abt getting protected or not
No we absolutely should never have and had we actually been investigated, we could deal with it then. Yes we’re worried because Hectic knows he can’t miselim us. He either needs to successfully get his entire team to pocket us or we’re dead. I thought if there’s was a way to prevent him from ever finding out we were saddled with aesetic and no one tried to investigate us, we’d have a shot but now he knows we’re essentially sitting ducks, we’re not living long in this game unless we’re townreading the entire scumteam.
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Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:30 pm

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In post 2138, Firebringer wrote:so....i don't know if i will be able to keep up with this game.
i work a 8-5 and i am starting night classes tomorrow.

ummmm this game might be too much
:( just read like the last three pages and interact with anyone who's around. you're really not missing that much and a few people are doing this already
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Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:31 pm

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also g'luck with the night classes
also i go back to work tom so uh probably won't be around as much anymore too
for sure not during the day
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Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:32 pm

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In post 2139, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 2132, skitter30 wrote:eh me/mt/chara interaction early in the game (like ~post 700 or so?)
gamma's wagon early game
xtoxm's pop-in
the small wagon on you that nancy was getting annoyed abt
dannflor
On a very fast ISO skim:

Gamma -> moderate townread
Xtoxm -> moderate townread
dann -> very weak townread

[Dann, no, I wouldn't have a good read on you this early. You think I should, by now? Very weak townread because your takes seem "free" (if that makes sense)]

Skitter30, which of these takes would you disagree with?

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gamma i agree
xtoxm i don't have a read on
dann i'm kinda like oscillating on but i'm ending up at nullscum on him
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Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:34 pm

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In post 2135, skitter30 wrote:i am avoiding tm like the plague
it's just not worth it
If you weren’t reqired to know exactly what’s happening in 4 games including your own, it would actually be enjoyable. If you only had to focus on one game it’d be fine and I had to pause my chess games too and I don’t have time to eat or sleep.:/
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Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:35 pm

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In post 2143, skitter30 wrote:dann i'm kinda like oscillating on but i'm ending up at nullscum on him
Interested in this, can you explain the towny v scummy parts from Dann and how that results in a net nullscum? If you've already explained please quote for me thanks :D

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Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:38 pm

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In post 2137, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1838, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:If we were to be investigated, how should I respond to that? I think claiming aesetic guarantees our death but I may have to if I can’t come up with a better explanation.
also this sounds like you were worried abt getting investigated, not abt getting protected
Yes because then we’d have to find a way to account for the “no results” response any possible PRs would get right. Because how else would we explain that? Which is why I was trying to find a claim that wouldn’t make us an easy NK.
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Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:40 pm

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In post 1656, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1574, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1075, Titus wrote:Ydrasse - Weak town
Gamma Emerald - Not memorable, but FL says town
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro) - Lean scum, no real presence of Nancy/Shiro. No cookies.
Morning Tweet - Can be town
Titus - Me
Xtoxm - No presence
Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra) - Odd, weak scumlean but FL has a point of everyone SRing the slot
Hopkirk - Weak town
Lunar Martian - Needs more
chkflip - When will he arrive?
Dannflor - Weak town, stronger opening but fell off
Firebringer - Town
skitter30 - Town miller
unwnd - Town voting them upon request
RCEnigma - Weak scum
catboiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii - Weak scum
Chara - Null

I tried to give a read on everyone. I want to get myself moving. Nothing's really strong though.
Still on same page stuff but Titus this reads list freaks me out a tiny bit. Mostly because you've played with me multiple times before and what the hell where on earth did you get that I had a strong opening from?

I don't even remember any of my own posts this game which is not a great sign!! So I'm just curious what exactly gave you strong vibes from me especially since you know I can do the surface level town stuff to at least some extent as scum.

And given I have no memory of my own posts and I was phone posting the whole time I doubt I did much more than poke at surface level stuff that caught my eye at the time

Also another point, I don't understand why you're doing this readslist. You have everyone at weak-something or null and some of these, like my read or the read on Starcrossed (which just says "odd" with no elaboration?) seem a bit like you're just tossing stuff out there. Which is fine if you're trying to get yourself going but I'm also not seeing you use this as a springboard to go in any specific direction. Like you're not trying to dig into why I "fell off," or what is odd about Starcrossed and why everyone seems to scum read them. You're just kinda throwing out what I can assume are fairly luke-warm takes and leaving it at that.

maybe you'll get more productive but this empty spinning-wheels sorta thing isn't the type of content I expect from you even to "get yourself started"
dann this post is weird and feels scummy to me :/
i hated this post from dunn, it just felt very wrong
he also was like selectively ignoring things i felt like (but tbf some of that i think he ahsn't read)
but the things he's responding to are just very off
i'm not sure he should be as paranoid as he is of me - there's a lot of people that are just like lol-townbinning me and i think scum's doing it and he sort of feels like he's in that group

and like i'm not sure i particularly townread anything but i'm not sure those are *strong* reasons to scumread him, if that makes sense
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Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:43 pm

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In post 2147, skitter30 wrote:he also was like selectively ignoring things i felt like (but tbf some of that i think he ahsn't read)
but the things he's responding to are just very off
i'm not sure he should be as paranoid as he is of me - there's a lot of people that are just like lol-townbinning me and i think scum's doing it and he sort of feels like he's in that group
Isn't it much easier responding to the "right things" as scum than as town at this pace? You and I know Dann is certainly capable of it.
Anything specific you think he's been ignoring?

So is he lol-townbinning you or is he paranoid of you? O.o I know both can coexist but hmm, can you tl;dr his reasons for townreading you from your pov?

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Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:44 pm

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In post 2139, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 2132, skitter30 wrote:eh me/mt/chara interaction early in the game (like ~post 700 or so?)
gamma's wagon early game
xtoxm's pop-in
the small wagon on you that nancy was getting annoyed abt
dannflor
On a very fast ISO skim:

Gamma -> moderate townread
Xtoxm -> moderate townread
dann -> very weak townread

[Dann, no, I wouldn't have a good read on you this early. You think I should, by now? Very weak townread because your takes seem "free" (if that makes sense)]

Skitter30, which of these takes would you disagree with?

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Why the moderate Xtoxm townread? What’s he done that is so townie?
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