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Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:29 pm

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In post 2119, absinthe wrote:
In post 2114, Anastasia wrote:You fought your way out of the pressure I was applying to you brilliantly.
I think I deflected some of the pressure.

If I'd figured out who you are (assuming I'm right!) more quickly I don't think I would have gotten nearly so offended.
I think you missed the point I was making originally that it was suspicious of unwnd to accept your explanation and that I was not actually suspicious of you <3

and you are of course correct.
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Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:30 pm

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In post 2121, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2119, absinthe wrote:
In post 2114, Anastasia wrote:You fought your way out of the pressure I was applying to you brilliantly.
I think I deflected some of the pressure.

If I'd figured out who you are (assuming I'm right!) more quickly I don't think I would have gotten nearly so offended.
Absinthe what is your guess?
If Anastasia doesn't want to reveal, I won't guess out loud.

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Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:31 pm

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I wonder how the game would've went if you never slipped like that, absin
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Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:32 pm

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In post 2125, Anastasia wrote:
In post 2119, absinthe wrote:
In post 2114, Anastasia wrote:You fought your way out of the pressure I was applying to you brilliantly.
I think I deflected some of the pressure.

If I'd figured out who you are (assuming I'm right!) more quickly I don't think I would have gotten nearly so offended.
I think you missed the point I was making originally that it was suspicious of unwnd to accept your explanation and that I was not actually suspicious of you <3

and you are of course correct.
It was worse than that. My reason for wanting to go to the Keep was that I thought I'd be able to find the town player and vote them, and my reason for wanting to go the the Gate was that I'd be able to be town enough there not to get voted by the IC. You thought I was angling for the Keep in order to be voted and I never slowed down to even address that.
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Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:33 pm

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Oh. I thought Day 1 Ana said she was going to reveal her main in the post game. But that might have actually been Briar
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Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:33 pm

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In post 2127, unwnd wrote:I wonder how the game would've went if you never slipped like that, absin
I do too. Or even if I'd slipped later after establishing my direction.
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Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:34 pm

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In post 2129, Lukewarm wrote:Oh. I thought Day 1 Ana said she was going to reveal her main in the post game. But that might have actually been Briar
That is why I did not think twice about asking
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Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:34 pm

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In post 2129, Lukewarm wrote:Oh. I thought Day 1 Ana said she was going to reveal her main in the post game. But that might have actually been Briar
She did and I'm pretty sure she did that just for more townpoints
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Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:37 pm

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In post 2130, absinthe wrote:
In post 2127, unwnd wrote:I wonder how the game would've went if you never slipped like that, absin
I do too. Or even if I'd slipped later after establishing my direction.
I might not have put so much faith in your solve if you had not slipped to be honest
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Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:38 pm

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In post 2124, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2120, Lukewarm wrote:This comment is part of the reason why I decided to just stay out of solving the Keep. That was 100% of my thinking, so if you already thought it, then I had nothing to add.
Yeah, ydrasse sowed the paranoia that ana would gambit perfectly. It wouldn't be too out-of-character, just a bad play.

If ana wants to reveal her main she can, I'm 99% sure I know who it is
This actually makes me more sure of my own guess (you were also in the older game I read lmao)

So if Ana does not want to reveal, then I am going to just assume I am right :lol: :lol:
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Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:41 pm

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@Unwnd, did you expect me to tunnel Dunn? Or did I make that read up in my head?
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Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:42 pm

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I didn't think you were going to tunnel Dunn, that was all in your head.

I knew Dunn would be really difficult to convince however (given he's just like that), but I wanted to seem like I was thinking about both ends. Townies aren't usually 100% on something, therefore I didn't just want to ignore you
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Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:45 pm

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In post 2133, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2130, absinthe wrote:
In post 2127, unwnd wrote:I wonder how the game would've went if you never slipped like that, absin
I do too. Or even if I'd slipped later after establishing my direction.
I might not have put so much faith in your solve if you had not slipped to be honest
I think the game would have played out differently as an unknown quantity, and you and I finding each other as town might have been a lot more difficult. unwnd would probably have approached my slot differently, which might not have gotten Anastasia's attention in the same way. S_S might not have set off alarms by reaching out to me so early, too.
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Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:49 pm

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Here is the comment that I typed up, then didn't sent

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This is what I am talking about. You have approached the day with the mindset that it is you vs me+Dunn the entire day, even though you should know that you have a teammate in that pair? Right? Even though you town read me, at no point in this day did I feel like you were trying to work with me.

I started the Day off with you as my stated TR. I started digging into Dunn's motivation for locking into the keep (expecting to find that he did not have a good town sided motivation because I thought he was scum), you were frustrated with that conversation.

Then you spent like so much of the day without trying to talk to me. You kept talking about me, stating my read incorrectly. I would respond. Then nothing.

And I finally reach the point where I am making a case against Dunn, and you still question me making that case, like why didn't I make the case stronger.

There has been no point in this day where I have felt like you were approaching me as if you thought we were on the same team.

But the way Dunn has interacted with me, has felt like the thought we might be on the same team.


And like, your top 2 goals of the day should have been working with Absinthe to solve the Gate and to work with me to convince me that you were town and dunn was scum.

If anything, you seemed way more focused on convincing everyone else that you were town. you started the day off by talking to catboi and the SS about their reads on you. You talked to Briar and Ana about their read on you ----


And then I stopped, and typed my vote comment.
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Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:50 pm

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In post 2137, absinthe wrote:
In post 2133, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2130, absinthe wrote:
In post 2127, unwnd wrote:I wonder how the game would've went if you never slipped like that, absin
I do too. Or even if I'd slipped later after establishing my direction.
I might not have put so much faith in your solve if you had not slipped to be honest
I think the game would have played out differently as an unknown quantity, and you and I finding each other as town might have been a lot more difficult. unwnd would probably have approached my slot differently, which might not have gotten Anastasia's attention in the same way. S_S might not have set off alarms by reaching out to me so early, too.
Yeah. I know I would have approached your slot very differently. Multiply that by the 7 other players, it would have been a very different game
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Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 8:22 pm

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In post 2138, Lukewarm wrote:Here is the comment that I typed up, then didn't sent

Spoiler:
This is what I am talking about. You have approached the day with the mindset that it is you vs me+Dunn the entire day, even though you should know that you have a teammate in that pair? Right? Even though you town read me, at no point in this day did I feel like you were trying to work with me.

I started the Day off with you as my stated TR. I started digging into Dunn's motivation for locking into the keep (expecting to find that he did not have a good town sided motivation because I thought he was scum), you were frustrated with that conversation.

Then you spent like so much of the day without trying to talk to me. You kept talking about me, stating my read incorrectly. I would respond. Then nothing.

And I finally reach the point where I am making a case against Dunn, and you still question me making that case, like why didn't I make the case stronger.

There has been no point in this day where I have felt like you were approaching me as if you thought we were on the same team.

But the way Dunn has interacted with me, has felt like the thought we might be on the same team.


And like, your top 2 goals of the day should have been working with Absinthe to solve the Gate and to work with me to convince me that you were town and dunn was scum.

If anything, you seemed way more focused on convincing everyone else that you were town. you started the day off by talking to catboi and the SS about their reads on you. You talked to Briar and Ana about their read on you ----


And then I stopped, and typed my vote comment.
Like I knew that would not convince anyone, but I did not know how to change it to make it more persuasive. So I admitted defeat

Unwnd, what do you think I could have said there to convince Absinthe?
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Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 8:24 pm

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Ultimately I was in your XYLO, so I think it wasn't a matter of convincing Absin? I think just be patient with yourself and get a bit more experience and games like this will turn into wins instead of losses.
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Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 8:40 pm

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Yeah, but like I would like to get to the point where I can convince other townies, especially confirmed townies.

This game in particular, I could have won without convincing Absinthe. But if we were in a more traditional set up, and were a 5 people XYLO, I 100% would have needed to convince the confirmed townie. And I would have failed at that.
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Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 9:33 pm

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@dunn I owe you an apology. Thought you were town, voted you anyways. Please forgive me T-T
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Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 12:52 am

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Oh, it's over? I was hoping for more dramatics...but at least I don't have to worry now.

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Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 12:56 am

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Official Vote Count 2.07
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Gatecatboi (0):
Something_Smart (0):
absinthe (0):
Not Voting (3): catboi, Something_Smart, absinthe

Wallunwnd (0):
Lukewarm (0):
Dunnstral (2): Lukewarm, unwnd
<--HAMMER

Not Voting (1): Dunnstral

KeepControlled by the
Mafia
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Deadline:
(expired on 2021-05-22 23:00:54).


Mod notes:
Please wait on post-game chat until the flip has been confirmed.[/area]
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Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 12:59 am

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Dunnstral was a
Vanilla Townie
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This game ends in a mafia victory. Congratulations to Briar, unwnd, and catboi.
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Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 1:00 am

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Thanks everyone for playing. This was an incredible group of players and I feel like both the town and the mafia played very well!
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Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 1:01 am

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In post 2010, absinthe wrote:Catboi is moving into the "if scum I'm gonna cry" zone.
<3

I'm feeling like a lost kitten...
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Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 1:05 am

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