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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:17 am
by Ydrasse
i’ve been wondering if scum have an alternative wincon somehow with the callers but that also seems uhhh a bit unfair to us if we end up winning our game the old fashioned way

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:19 am
by Cephrir
it seems very rude to not tell us about it, if there's an alternate wincon

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:19 am
by Cephrir
consider this my preemptive postgame bitching if that turns out to be true

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:20 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
is it time to yeet tetrina

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:21 am
by Ydrasse
there’s clearly something w the callers but i don’t think it’s actually the above i was just hypothesizing

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:21 am
by Ydrasse
tetrina is too innocent to die

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:25 am
by Cephrir
In post 1576, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: enchant
reminder to self to see whether infinity ever adds any performance to this

galron's enchant vote is fine to me

ill refrain from quoting one million rousseau posts but she's got the seemingly right wagon read feeling uneasy about the SS wagon and is sussing galron which i think makes her the only widely townread player to do so

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:30 am
by skitter30
Heya
I'm still really dubious of ss tbh, his iso/vote on enchant looks somewhat partner-y to me

I think tetrina is town, since we're discussing her. Esp. since house's one vote/push was on her; his push felt like he saw on easy-ish misflip and i dont think that's where he woule choose to start off if she were scum

Also i'm lowkey wondering if monarch is scrambling her posts on purpose

Infinity's vote on enchant is still somewhat ??? fo me, because she was making a point of not scumreading him, and insisted on calling it a poe vote instead. But, i think if she were scum and ss were town, she would have switched to ss at some point towards the end of the day, as the ss wagon got p high too and i think its feasible he could have been flipped there instead. She was p adament on voting enchant over ss, and i think if scum would have taken my entreaty to switch votes there. So the vote is a bit +town to me (this reasoning goes out the window if ss is also scum tho btw)

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:30 am
by Gamma Emerald
Haven't read much of the D2 content, just wanna post some questions I thought up for the callers overnight

Shutterbug
: how are you feeling at this point, now that the threat to the resistance has been confirmed without any doubt?
Locke
: what would you say is a good direction to go in today?
Maple
: what made you think Something_Smart was the better exile over Enchant? I’m specifically interested in what you saw from Something_Smart (or Roden).
Monarch
: would you say you commonly get stuck in your own head in other mafia games you have played?
Fleet
: I noticed you said something about mafia hanging back and hoping town shoots one of their own earlier on, do you think House/Enchant flipping as a Special Agent affirms or puts doubt in that idea? If you still think it has merit, who else do you think fits that bill? If not, what’s your opinion on that stage of the game now?

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:35 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2102, DrippingGoofball wrote:Enchant isn't scum.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:35 am
by Cephrir
In post 1640, skitter30 wrote:I had no townvibes on roden and i dont like ss's entrance thus far + enchant seems kinda clueless in a way that doesnt seem likely to be coming from someone with access to a scum pt
In post 1647, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1643, rousseau wrote:(3) enchant: gamma emerald (1575), infinity 324 (1576), galron (1584)
(3) something smart: ssbm kyouko (1391), tetrina (1400), cephrir (1401)
Ty
I kinda like the formation of the ss wagon more tho

VOTE: ss
why did you change your reason for suspecting ss between these posts?

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:37 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2115, Ydrasse wrote:
dgb


i want to vote off wagon for now and there’s no development between dgb’s former read on enchant and the end of day comment about enchant being town
Yeah sure, I get that.

I thought it was going to be a miselim.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:39 am
by skitter30
I didnt really change so much as added another thought in a later post

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:39 am
by skitter30
I'm still sus of dgb too tbh

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:41 am
by DrippingGoofball
I reckon my Day 1 was bad.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:44 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
lol what

didnt u say ss/enchant wasnt s/s skitter?

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:45 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 2114, Ydrasse wrote:it also makes sense of why she was focusing on the comms
Yeah, she softed it to one of Cephrir or Galron iirc, could be scum also noticed.

Comms expert could also just be a flavored PT cop/Traffic Analyst though, unfortunately we dont get detailed flips

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:46 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1752, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1722, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:in my experience when there's 2 leading wagons and neither of the 2 have any solid/real read on the other wagon its probly just S/S
They both just repped in, i dont feel like this is a great tell in tjis case
blast from the past

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:50 am
by Gamma Emerald
I’m gonna add my voice to the “House’s Tetrina push didn’t look like a bus/distancing” crowd since I kinda feel like when it became apparent Tetrina was off the table House seemed to hit his big wallflower moment

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:52 am
by skitter30
In post 2140, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:lol what

didnt u say ss/enchant wasnt s/s skitter?
I thought that yesterday from the wagon dynamics but now that i know enchant is scum i think ss's iso is partner-y. So yeah i changed my mind

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:54 am
by Cephrir
In post 1671, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Something_Smart

Let's make it an exciting race!
this almost sucks too much

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:54 am
by skitter30
In post 2142, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1752, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1722, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:in my experience when there's 2 leading wagons and neither of the 2 have any solid/real read on the other wagon its probly just S/S
They both just repped in, i dont feel like this is a great tell in tjis case
blast from the past
Yep. I was wrong on enchant and changed my mind

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:58 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 2117, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 1188, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1180, Infinity 324 wrote:galron
After House shows up and contributes, I'd be willing to vote there then.

I could also vote Gamma.
In post 1283, DrippingGoofball wrote:Scum is Gamma/House/Tetrina
In post 1671, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Something_Smart

Let's make it an exciting race!
In post 1882, DrippingGoofball wrote:Cephrir scumming up the page.
In post 2102, DrippingGoofball wrote:Enchant isn't scum.
this is my reasons for dgb vote
In post 2120, Cephrir wrote:Good morning.

I don't hate the above but want to actually go over stuff a bit before I jump anywhere today.
I think I agree with this. Not a bad reason to vote DGB but doesnt convince me on it's own and I want to take some time for now. I dont think theres any reason to.vote specifically on or off the wagon though, as those 2 seemed inevitable, and scum easily could have bussed or split between wagons.
In post 2124, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1448, rousseau wrote:have you thought about why they might be important to me?
at the time i saw this as an obvious crumb about having a role that involves the callers & backed off. i assume most of you saw it too? if so, maybe the mafia actually care about them for some reason
yeah this is what I was talking about, the soft she made was at you rather than Galron it seems
In post 2131, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1576, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: enchant
reminder to self to see whether infinity ever adds any performance to this

galron's enchant vote is fine to me

ill refrain from quoting one million rousseau posts but she's got the seemingly right wagon read feeling uneasy about the SS wagon and is sussing galron which i think makes her the only widely townread player to do so
I also sussed Galron D1, I still do I think. I didnt do any rereading, usually i would but I'm a little sick rn

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:00 am
by Cephrir
In post 1683, Tetrina wrote:VOTE: Enchant ok rousseau
^town
In post 1724, Ydrasse wrote:s_s replaces into scum slots without fail its s_s
:shifty:
In post 1745, Galron wrote:
In post 1711, Infinity 324 wrote:how about

shiki
What do you see there? What's scum!rousseau's motivation for not mis-characterizing posts, engaging with everyone, not cherry-picking, etc. Unless this is a long con, I don't see mafia there.
just thought it was interesting that yuo think scum play this way yet when i somewhat blatantly mischaracterized your post you made a joke about it instead. makes me wonder if you know i'm town

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:00 am
by Cephrir
In post 1755, skitter30 wrote:I'm not really sure where this dueling svs wagon notion is coming from, i would actually be p surprised if that was the case. This doesnt feel like svs to me. I wouldnt be surprised if they were tvt tbh
such a specific take to go back on