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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:40 pm
by Oversoul
redFF I must have mentioned you as scum for the past 4 days. Obviously I'm not going to vote you because 1) Mastin has metric ton of reading to do, and 2) we are going to no lynch today regardless.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:46 am
by mastin2
It's no longer as important as it was before, but here's what I was going with when I asked Oversoul about the talk, since I typed this up before asking him:



Way I see it.
Oversoul said "completely random", as in "random.org".

I'm presuming that it was mentioned in the PMs that the neighborhood was random.

And that someone who thought similarly to how I did asked something along the lines of <b>
Mod: Define "random".
</b>

And that the mod answered, "completely random, as in, random.org", or something or another like that. Since having so much detail about it being random in the PMs is basically unnecessary clutter.


Now if this is right, then it'd have to be completely random.
As I demonstrated above, "random.org" could still mean that there's elements to the neighborhood not random. And if the mod didn't explicitly state that it was completely random, this would be possible.

But if the mod specifically said completely random, then it would have to be completely random, since if it were anything else, the moderator would be lying to the players and that would never fly with setup reviewers.




It's no longer important, since, well, I'm done for now pursuing this line of thought. Why?

I have a plan to win this game.

It'll take an eternity to finish. I'll probably have to read hundreds of games in a couple of weeks to make it work, and then read this one with a certain strategy, a specific mindset in use that is a product of the above reading.


But if this plan works.

If I succeed.

It'll all be worth it.

(Scared? You should be. :P Knowing you, you'll probably think it's an extremely lame plan if you saw the draft I typed up in my QT, but to me? It was an awesome plan. Slightly impractical, but nonetheless possible and awesome.)

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:38 am
by Nobody Special
You're weird.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:43 pm
by Oversoul
Nobody Special wrote:You're weird.


Mastin have you begun your plan yet?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:56 pm
by ObliviousDruidMuncher
Update and the like tomorrow.

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:46 am
by mastin2
Oversoul wrote:
Nobody Special wrote:You're weird.


Mastin have you begun your plan yet?
Yeah.

Bit of a slow start, given how I lost power last night.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:36 am
by Oversoul
I hope those holiday storms don't interrupt the festivities.

Anyway, why has everyone gone mute other than Mastin? :\

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:41 am
by redFF
we're waiting on mastins amazing analysis.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:20 am
by mastin2
redFF wrote:we're waiting on mastins amazing analysis.
That doesn't give you an excuse to slack off.

Do work of your own and try to find the SK yourself.
And if you think you've found the SK, explain it, create a case, and argue with them.

During any other time, yeah, bad idea.

During lylo?

Best time you can do it.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:54 am
by Oversoul
Mastin, between this game and [redacted] I don't know how you do it given the time constraints and the amount of work you put into Mafia. You are a grade A player.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:09 am
by Oversoul
... rereading this game is such a chore. I've looked over everyone's iso twice now and so far the results have been fruitless.

Hard to believe Mastin made that case against me 5 pages ago.

Rereading the end of redFF's iso boils me.

Reading Vifam's play it doesn't look like SK material especially with the Johhog not commenting crap that would have gotten him lynched had I not intervened with fake guilties.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:20 am
by Oversoul
lul. Rereading the first 20 pages. Like a different game entirely. I did get a few chuckles out of KCD's posts.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:50 pm
by ObliviousDruidMuncher
No votes have been cast as far as I can see.

Prodding Nobody Special.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:07 pm
by Nobody Special
I've been mostly pretty busy with Thanksgiving and whatnot. Been reading some selected things, but haven't had the time to distill my ramblings into anything useful yet. Soon. (I'm not as good at word salad as mastin is...)

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:56 pm
by Oversoul
... I'll let the activity go because of Thanksgiving.

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:16 pm
by ObliviousDruidMuncher
No votes still. Post more.

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:36 pm
by redFF
could we have a second scum? can scum shoot each other? this is important.

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:22 pm
by mastin2
redFF wrote:could we have a second scum? can scum shoot each other? this is important.
Could we?

Yeah.

But 1: we're pretty much screwed if there is and have no way of winning without a crosskill,
2: It doesn't make as much sense, and
3: Wouldn't change optimal play today at all; we'd still no-lynch.

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:16 am
by redFF
I mean, could we have one mafia left and no sk?

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:40 am
by mastin2
Only if you can explain this:
Pine Foolish Fool (Haylen + JordanA24), Mafia Roleblocker, chiasmused to death Night 4.

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:34 am
by redFF
well can mafia shoot their own member?

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:20 am
by Nobody Special
redFF wrote:well can mafia shoot their own member?
Can you put forth a reasonable hypothesis as to WHY they might do that? Because I'm not seeing one.




And I come back with some questions:

mastin: Any update on this Master Plan of yours? You've been awfully quiet lately (as have we all, yes, but it's SO out of character for you).

redFF: Why the sudden setup speculation as to whether it's mafia or SK left? Are you trying to distract us from something? Hmmm?

Oversoul: Do you think mastin is to be congratulated on his time spent on this site? Do you think that has any bearing on his alignment for this game? Do you feel his activity
in this game
has dropped recently? If so, what's your speculation for the reason behind that?


Overall, I am afraid we may have hit a bump with the holiday, and now we have three (mostly) apathetic townies and one opportunistic SK just playing the waiting game.

Vote: No Lynch

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:06 am
by Oversoul
Nobody Special wrote:Oversoul: Do you think mastin is to be congratulated on his time spent on this site? Do you think that has any bearing on his alignment for this game? Do you feel his activity in this game has dropped recently? If so, what's your speculation for the reason behind that?


For the time spent on the site, no. For the effort he puts into his games, yes. Although he could do with a little less mafia and a little more free time. :P Then again, we all could.

Yes, his activity has dropped, which is out of character for him, but for this game, that is actually
in
character. However, this game is out of character compared to his other games
especially
the recently started [redacted]. I mean, he could be the SK. Or real life committments. Same for everyone with regards to the apathy.

Nobody, there is no reason to hasten the speed we go into No Lynch, since by default, we go into no lynch..

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:38 am
by redFF
in this game I hammered ns the sk in lylo for a town win.

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:32 am
by Johhog
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