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Not be the sudden dog pile of a bad player wagon day 2. I'm not calling him town, I'm saying he's not done anything I want to wagon him down for and that there are much better calls to play out the day.

If anything I'd peg him as third party rather mafia.

let's say your proposed lynch doesn't pan out, would your feelings change?

doesn't pan out as in, flips town

No there is no connection between them.

My thoughts on DGB would probably change though with how the early D2 surge of interest then silence that happened.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:No there is no connection between them.

My thoughts on DGB would probably change though with how the early D2 surge of interest then silence that happened.

Sorry but my new drawing tablet is a delicious time suck and a steep learning curve.

I'm not liking zoraster's evasiveness and disappearance myself. Maybe he has a new drawing tablet? I didn't find him scummy until he short-changed Om's very fair line of questioning with a quickie brush-off. It's highly possible that the more I see of him the more I'll want him dead. So maybe he should continue to hide, it's the most effective strategy for him.

JacobSavage gave very odd reads and dropped out, perhaps he has the new PhotoShop version installed?

Zoidberg is keeping a somewhat low profile but he doesn't strike me as scummy - he's probably installing all kinds of programs on his new computer. I'm beginning to be leery that he's being distanced if we have two scum teams, less so if there is one (something P-drascum seems to KNOW.)

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:No there is no connection between them.

My thoughts on DGB would probably change though with how the early D2 surge of interest then silence that happened.

I'll add that I'm not impressed with you, and I'm especially not impressed with your recent contribution.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:I see Fate's got an excellent track record of keeping accounts straight.

= Useless comment. Hidden among the spam, but TBM only has 13 posts total.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:I'm slowly slogging through this disaster and I'm working on setting everything up for the MEGASUPERAWESOMEEXCITING MARATHON HOLIDAY EXTRAVAGANZA! so yeah ~excuses~

= excuses are scummy.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:Everyone who has over one fucking hundred posts in the nine days this game has been running I want to extend a personal and heart felt stop fucking spamming I want to gouge my eyes out with goddamn spoons.

= While I sympathize, this is a third useless post out of 13.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:

↑ Nuwen wrote:

TheButtonmen

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so let's do it this way:

Big names get to tell me why they're not voting for Thunderhog right meow. If you've already said something to this effect,

QUOTE

your words in response to this post. I do

NOT

want to hear "my vote is on someone scummier," because it's not.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:Everyone who has over one fucking hundred posts in the nine days this game has been running I want to extend a personal and heart felt stop fucking spamming I want to gouge my eyes out with goddamn spoons.

I have been in this game for just over a day now, it is 71 pages long, I hate everything.

= More uselessness, 4/13.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:Huh.

Well that's good to know.

= More utter and complete uselessness, 5/13.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:I'm busy christmasing yo I'll be back tomorrow night.

= More excuses and uselessness, 6/13.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:Alrighty Im back from VLA, post should be going up later tonight.

= More excuses and uselessness, 7/13.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:

↑ dramonic wrote:These wagons are bad.
@OD: Why is it so hard to lynch you again?

I don't care if you respond in bullet form but what's your top complaints with them?

= More excuses and uselessness, just asking a dumb question without follow up, 8/13.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:Hmn I agree Jacobs play while I didn't see it happen in real time D1 doesn't seem at all scumlike to me so I'm also not interested in this wagon at all.

Thoughts on Zoidberg?

Now we have an OPINION! Unjustified "JS-not-scum" plus putting the onus back on someone else to make a case on Zoidberg.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:

Vote: Zoidberg

I endorse this wagon and/or service.

= one minute after asking for thoughts on Zoidberg, wagon push! So out of everyone, after making a bunch of worthless posts and excuses, TBM declares JS to be town. A minute ago, he needed someone's help to determine Zoidberg's alignment. After that minute, he gathered all the required facts and Zoidberg is scum!

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:I have read the game and zoid is consistently scummy through out. Jacob is just bad at mafia and flailing.

If TBM has read the game, why so few opinions, so many excuses, and complete uselessness?

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:Not be the sudden dog pile of a bad player wagon day 2. I'm not calling him town, I'm saying he's not done anything I want to wagon him down for and that there are much better calls to play out the day.

If anything I'd peg him as third party rather mafia.

After being challenged by DeltaWave, TBM suddenly decided that JS is THIRD PARTY!!! While he won't lynch JS, he's backing off calling him town, just some third party player WHOSE LYNCH HE'S STEADFAST AGAINST!!!

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:No there is no connection between them.

My thoughts on DGB would probably change though with how the early D2 surge of interest then silence that happened.

Willing to hop on another possible wagon that doesn't involve JacobSavage.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:I make terrible life decisions.

= Yet another useless post 9/13.


VOTE: TheButtonmen

DGB, Buttons can wait for tomorrow, help me lynch zor today.

Zor is hiding and being slippery so it's hard to make a case on him.

We could wagon him vigorously, he'd have to show up.

I already made a case on him.

↑ Zoidberg wrote:

↑ JacobSavage wrote:

Leaning Town

Dramonic
Wyrd

Zoraster

Ythan
Iecerint

↑ JacobSavage wrote:If you insist

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Zor

↑ Om of the Nom wrote:

↑ Zoidberg wrote:om, OD, others: I agree zoraster looks scummy but let's focus on jacob please.

JS is town you fuck.

On what planet does town vote for one of his town reads, with no justification, because random player X asks him to?

Explain to me how JS it town.

Yeah but then, there's the above. It's more convincing that JS is scum, than zoraster.

No, it just shows that JS is a smart cookie who does as he's told.

↑ Wyrd wrote:VOTE: DGB


MERRY XMAS SCUM

Since they haven't posted since I joined the game...

VOTE: DGB

Always sheep Fate, never not sheep Fate. (Unless he's scum).

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:Not be the sudden dog pile of a bad player wagon day 2. I'm not calling him town, I'm saying he's not done anything I want to wagon him down for and that there are much better calls to play out the day.

If anything I'd peg him as third party rather mafia.

why is he scummy enough to be third party but not mafia?

Metabullshittery. It's not a very strong read but he's raising some flags.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:Metabullshittery. It's not a very strong read but he's raising some flags.

YOU're raising some flags.

how are you distinguishing it from mafia though does it not match his scum meta?

↑ zoraster wrote:

↑ Om of the Nom wrote:Why did you hop on the Wyrd wagon? Do you still think DGB is town? These are the kind of things I want answered from you.

It seemed like a fair wagon at the time, and I wanted to see what they'd do. Yes I do think she is town.

What do you mean by a "fair wagon"? That's basically a tautological answer - "Why did you join this wagon?" "Oh, because it seemed like a fair wagon"

One Direction wrote:
BT: Not understanding why people view him as a possible TH buddy, think TH’s vote on him in #407 (his opening post) at a time when BT was drawing a lot of heat seems more like trying to capitalize on a ML opportunity rather than a bus. I think it’s further reinforced by the bullet points of reasoning TH offers in #697 and some of the exaggerated language he uses to build up his case (e.g., “BT has been completely inconsistent nearly this entire game, and it's rather blatant.”). Normally, I find that noob-scum don’t make cases like this on their partners but they do when they want to jump on an easy wagon on town. Back and forth with TH starting in BT’s #867 also points against BT being on his team as I think the frustration he shows towards TH seems unlikely to be directed at a partner (e.g., “If you're referring to the first two posts STILL then 1) you're bad and 2) I already explained this horrible inconsistency because really it wasn't.”) Think BT getting cold feet over TH starting at #1517 is pretty genuine too and comes in well before the TH wagon took off (I believe at the time we were the biggest wagon and TH was in no serious danger of getting lynched).

I agree with this. The other point to add is TH's 1468:

TH wrote: Unvote
BT's stoicism is convincing me of his towniness. A scum provided with the kind of BS that I threw at him would be actively trying to cut my head off. It's true that he's currently voting me, but the fact that he's been quiet for this long and not trying to get more people on my wagon is what I'm going on here.

If TH was bussing, he would NOT be making this sort of post. With the benefit of knowing that TH was scum, it really reads more like an attempt to placate TH than anything else. My conclusion here might be less definite if TH had done this for the purpose of simply jumping to another wagon. However, although he votes in his next post, it's to vote Zoid, who doesn't even have a wagon (beyond 2 votes) at that time, so there isn't even a clear a strategy of "wanting to change votes".

↑ JacobSavage wrote:No I meant "I lurk a lot as town so I would guess I would do the same as scum which could be backed up by my play that one time I rolled SK"

This IS valid. I mean, whether or not there is proof he lurks as scum, the existence of proof that he lurks as town makes it clear that the lurking isn't strategic scumlurking. He's handled this is in a stupid way, but my read on JS is only slightly-scummier-than-average null lurker.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:I'm not calling him town [...]
If anything I'd peg him as third party rather mafia.

On the basis of the above, you were willing to break the momentum of his (JacobSavage) wagon and vote Zoidberg, one minute after demanding a case on Zoidberg that wasn't delivered.

You realize that's the only thing you've actually done all game except 2 excuse posts and 7 nothing posts. Saving a player that you don't think is dropping town-tells, and that you're wagering is third party. That was worth saving? You objected strongly to his lynch.

In other words, I'm saying you're scum.

vollkan while you're here your opinion on TBM would be appreciated.

Hell yeah I'm objecting to his lynch? As I clearly stated he's done nothing that looks terribly scummy, the comment about third party was due to my knowledge that the last time I played with him and he sat about coasting like this he ended up being SK but I'm not really feeling that strongly at the moment either.

Zoidberg I was asking about for a reason and after further reading I'm pretty comfortable saying he needs to be wagoned hard and long.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:...the comment about third party was due to my knowledge that the last time I played with him and he sat about coasting like this he ended up being SK but I'm not really feeling that strongly at the moment either.

HE WAS LYNCHED DAY 1

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↑ TheButtonmen wrote:...but I'm not really feeling that strongly at the moment either.

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SOL now, JacobSavage has gone from ABSOLUTELY NOT GONNA LYNCH

to NOT CALLING HIM TOWN BUT MAYBE 3RD PARTY

to NEUTRAL

But you are strongly opposed to his lynch, still?