1/2/3 -- This looks like a valid inconsistency being pointed out. 4 - Wouldn't perhaps consider it a scumtell, but I still see the point as valid and plausible. 5/6-- Bit of a rehash, but ok. The post is decent, but it seems somewhat nitpickey as it focuses on 1 or 2 contradictiobs without looking at the big picture. -
One great possibility is bussing, though I'm still leaning towards the town side with Titus. Still, more flailing and AtE. Too bad its so hard to tell if genuine...... -
Scummish (-2)
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Total Score: -4 points
Average Score: -1.0 (-4 / 4)
Final Score: -0.5 (In range of -6 to 6; includes bias score of +0.5)
Meh, I think this is probably the better lynch out of the neighborhood though. Liger looks ok, Magna I townread, and Copper.... Well, I'm not seeing it right now.
1/2/3 -- This looks like a valid inconsistency being pointed out. 4 - Wouldn't perhaps consider it a scumtell, but I still see the point as valid and plausible. 5/6-- Bit of a rehash, but ok. The post is decent, but it seems somewhat nitpickey as it focuses on 1 or 2 contradictiobs without looking at the big picture. -
One great possibility is bussing, though I'm still leaning towards the town side with Titus. Still, more flailing and AtE. Too bad its so hard to tell if genuine...... -
Scummish (-2)
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Total Score: -4 points
Average Score: -1.0 (-4 / 4)
Final Score: -0.5 (In range of -6 to 6; includes bias score of +0.5)
Meh, I think this is probably the better lynch out of the neighborhood though. Liger looks ok, Magna I townread, and Copper.... Well, I'm not seeing it right now.
In post 2049, drmyshottyizsik wrote:Well, uh did pers claim? is not can we please lynch tius tomorrow, he is either bussing scum or scummy scum, I'm too drunk to do mafia now
I don't know how I feel about this, but I believe this makes the player at L-1 again.
I think someone should declare intent and he should claim.
In post 2113, Expedience wrote:Everyone is a neighbor, Persivul, unless you live on a park bench or something. What's your role, though?
VIG NAHDIA REGARDLESS OF FLIP
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:34 am
by Titus
Last quote was for notes.
I wonder why Expedience did not claim his neighborhood.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:36 am
by Persivul
In post 2149, Kop wrote:Yes, vets can be more dangerous when scum, but if someone is scummy, I'd rather them checked, than potentially lynch them due to them acting scummy and turn out town.
So you investigate a scummy newbie. The scummy newbie comes back as town. The newbie gets wagoned. As cop, you out yourself just to save one scummy newbie early in a large.
In post 2149, Kop wrote:Yes, vets can be more dangerous when scum, but if someone is scummy, I'd rather them checked, than potentially lynch them due to them acting scummy and turn out town.
So you investigate a scummy newbie. The scummy newbie comes back as town. The newbie gets wagoned. As cop, you out yourself just to save one scummy newbie early in a large.
That's really bad.
Why do you suppose the scummy newbie gets wagoned? That's not a proper assumption. Why couldn't a scummy vet be wagoned?
That's an argument against checking scummy people.
In post 2149, Kop wrote:Yes, vets can be more dangerous when scum, but if someone is scummy, I'd rather them checked, than potentially lynch them due to them acting scummy and turn out town.
So you investigate a scummy newbie. The scummy newbie comes back as town. The newbie gets wagoned. As cop, you out yourself just to save one scummy newbie early in a large.
That's really bad.
No, it's not bad. You just think it's bad. Investigate a vet, he turns town, you lynch a scummy newbie, shows as town, you investigate another vet, he shows as town.
Scum will kill vets, rather than scummy newbies. You don't have to come out and fully claim a cop role if you got a town. There are other ways of doing things that doesn't make you come out with your role and why that person should not be lynched.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:43 am
by Titus
The people who should be investigated are those who reveal the most about the game. That's because scum are unlikely to kill them and we get info.
If scum kill them, then we get info. Anen, TBG,Seth are all good investigations.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:44 am
by Titus
Seth = Guy who replaced his slot.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:44 am
by Titus
EtL, myself, and copper are also good investigations too.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:46 am
by Persivul
@ Kop: Yes, it's bad. Newbies should be sortable as scum or just bad town by D3, and you shouldn't be lynching newbies on D1 or D2 anyway.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:51 am
by Shaziro
Alright, so looking at my slot I can see some scummy behavior of his, mostly around the inactivity and the stuff with Cy. I think he was on the money with Cy acting scummy, but given that he had 17 posts in a page that has gone to 86 pages in day one, I'm willing to assume he was just not interested and wasn't paying attention. This would make sense as to why he double-voted. I also don't think the double vote was that scummy because of that, and I'm a bit suspicious of zakk for latching onto it like he did. Tacking a joke on to your vote isn't scum motivated, as Zakk proceeded to do the exact same thing -in the post he voted HA in-, what with his "we have cookies" joke. I think his point on HA joking about not liking to be read was fair, but I can't explain why HA felt that was wise. So I'm on a slight scumread on Zakk for that.
TBG quoted Zakk's reasons, but gave his own in that he felt HA was coasting. I feel like he may have seen Zakk's reasons as valid at first glance because he was already annoyed at my slot for what he felt was coasting. Again, I feel like it was just disinterest or maybe being overwhelmed by a large game, so I can see his reasons. Null to slight town on TBG.
Lowell is very similar to TBG's case, but I'm not sure I like that he came back and threw shade at me for...confirming the strategic value, or lack thereof, of no lynching? Null on him.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:56 am
by Shaziro
EBWOP: In a thread* not In a page.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:04 am
by Aneninen
Sort of back.
Can someone summarize the most important things which have happened on the last about 25 pages?
Can someone summarize the most important things which have happened on the last about 25 pages?
There has been a lot of votes on you, your on the verge of being lynched.
Do you have any answer back to that?
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:21 am
by drmyshottyizsik
VOTE: tbg
Better than pers, again pers is obv town. Btw reactions like what I've just seen from pers was what I was trying to get with my vote. We don't have much time left.
Can someone summarize the most important things which have happened on the last about 25 pages?
I called BS on the TBG wagon and told Titus that, since I'm an equal scum read of hers, to wagon me. I'm town but offering myself up for info. There hasn't been a CW.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:51 am
by Aneninen
In post 2162, Kop wrote:There has been a lot of votes on you, your on the verge of being lynched.
Do you have any answer back to that?
If that were true, I'd say lynch me because the Deadline's coming.
Can someone summarize the most important things which have happened on the last about 25 pages?
I called BS on the TBG wagon and told Titus that, since I'm an equal scum read of hers, to wagon me. I'm town but offering myself up for info. There hasn't been a CW.
Yeah, I saw the latest Vote Count.
What's the case?
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:34 am
by Shaziro
In post 1913, Shaziro wrote:Alright, I started skimming some more because deadlines are scary. I'm not a huge fan of how ETL jumped to defend the pattern in voting Titus claimed to see, it almost seemed like trying to bury that point, but I don't have a good way to see if the pattern applied to him because it'd involve looking at the timing on all the votes in the game and, to be honest, ew. That said, I don't like Persivul's "Well I knew there might be scum in the neighborhood, so I did this scummy thing -because- of the scum potential!" argument. It seems kinda poorly thought out, and while that could mean he just didn't think much about it when he decided to do it, I see it more as a somewhat twitchy reaction.
I also read Persivul's 15131671 contradiction. I'm not convinced that wasn't a big flag by the "Oh, I meant to say town" thing. What kinda keyboard do you have where your o is near the c and the w is by the u?
As ETL pointed out, trying to keep ETL and Titus at odds is either scummy in game terms, or a bit of a rude strategy. I don't like it. Even if you think one is scum and you're trying to stop buddying, I think it'd be better to watch the interactions and see if it isn't scum coaching scum, right?
Yeah, because supposed scum slips are just such an accurate way of finding scum.
I feel like I'm missing something here
I also think that Nosferatu's post on the next page with the image of a chainsaw is scummy, how he just comes out of nowhere with a clear agenda.
that's kind of shitty. If I'm not posting, any post I make is out of nowhere. Explain why finally posting in thread with a proper relevant opinion is "a clear agenda"?
No, that's incredibly fallacious. "a clear agenda" is not "finally posting in thread with a proper relevant opinion". This is a scum response to strawman the case against you. This is a clear agenda:
"oh hm idk haven't really read the thread but i agree with this one post a bit"
[other person accuses the person who wrote that post]
"LOL NICE CHAINSAW XD SCUMTEAM FOUND"
no it was
"This person is scum"
"Your argument is shit"
me --> "Chainsaw"
you're fucking terrible.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:42 am
by Nosferatu
mind you I literally said a few posts before that how I didn't like either of their slots. Fucking dumbass motherfuckers playing this game.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:49 am
by Ircher
In post 2163, drmyshottyizsik wrote:VOTE: tbg
Better than pers, again pers is obv town. Btw reactions like what I've just seen from pers was what I was trying to get with my vote. We don't have much time left.
