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In post 2149, the worst wrote:I don't really object to any of the read lists flying around but can someone gimme an indication on who is mechanically town vs just prob/obvtown atm?

Nancy is 98.5% town due to Nico check. It’d require moon logic to not be town so nancy is town.
Other than that no one as far as I can tell is mechanically confirmed unless you heard otherwise (A).

In post 2148, Commander Shepard wrote:Because Chick is more likely town than AA9
And even if AA9 is town and we are wrong she needs to die.

Yeah, agree. Her destructive anti-town noise for whatever reason, is an unhelpful impediment to town. I know that’s why I was so hellbent on originally getting TPF slot killed but Chick is far less of a distraction than both Angel and TPF put together. I don’t see her posting kitten gifs as in any way harmful town lol, plus TPF voted for Creature. However, if I don’t see any townie behaviour from Chick soon, I’m not necessarily opposed to having either that slot vigged or lynched next. But rn she isn’t an impediment to town like Angel is, so I’m in no immediate rush to lynch Chick over Angel.

In post 2149, the worst wrote:I don't really object to any of the read lists flying around but can someone gimme an indication on who is mechanically town vs just prob/obvtown atm?

In post 2150, Commander Shepard wrote:

In post 2149, the worst wrote:I don't really object to any of the read lists flying around but can someone gimme an indication on who is mechanically town vs just prob/obvtown atm?

Nancy is 98.5% town due to Nico check. It’d require moon logic to not be town so nancy is town.
Other than that no one as far as I can tell is mechanically confirmed unless you heard otherwise (A).

I think Shoshin Is also somewhat mechanically cleared if you ISO her d3 posts.

Also, the worst might be possibly clear due to Creature putting him as his only official townread. I don’t see scum!Creature putting one of his scumpals as his only offcial townread and this is based on meta. He also asked why there was a wagon on another town player in a previous game I played with him as scum. Another reason, why I’m townreading Taly, since he was the first one to point this out. I think the worst should also be clear due to strong d2 Creature push. I can’t for the life of me see it as a bus because his thought process was so blatantly villagery. I also found a recent scum game of the worst’s and as a result, I’m doubling down on my townread of him.

Oh I agree those are all prob town.

That isn’t town as the question asked.

In post 2152, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I also found a recent scum game of the worst’s and as a result, I’m doubling down on my townread of him.

lol, you can tell the good people of the jury that I'm awful at scum!

In post 2154, the worst wrote:

In post 2152, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I also found a recent scum game of the worst’s and as a result, I’m doubling down on my townread of him.

lol, you can tell the good people of the jury that I'm awful at scum!

I mean I wouldn’t go so far as to suggest you should have put in your sig, “please lynch me I’m lockscum in that game” but . . .

Tbf, having familiarity with your town meta helps a lot.

In post 2153, Commander Shepard wrote:Oh I agree those are all prob town.

That isn’t

mechanically

town as the question asked.

Well the worst was instrumental in making the Creature lynch happen and with Shoshin, it’s more a matter of reading btween the lines but yeah I see your point but you could also argue it as a question if degrees, in that mine is just at the top end of that. \_0_/

In post 2143, Shoshin wrote:Nancy, you aren't dying until you reevaluate that read on Random.

I just thought I should address this, in the slight chance that scum kills me today to cause WIFOM. My death would not be tied to random in any way - neither to townspew him or frame him. If I die today, it will because I am the defacto IC and for no other reason. However, if we - God only knows why - fail somehow to correctly lynch Angel today, no one ought to be remotely shocked by my death as a result of that.

In post 2087, Shoshin wrote:We need to lynch Random and it's only going to get harder to do as scum kill players who suspect him. I'm probably dying tonight and definitely before LYLO. So I dunno how we're going to win this if Nancy doesn't rethink that read.

no because that would imply you had any idea what you were talking about

In post 2114, Shoshin wrote:Shepard, why would scum do any of the things that AA9's doing?

for a massive variety of reasons
also no one has considered the fact that even if shoshin's theory (which is insanely bastard) is true it could be aa9 faking it

In post 2158, Randomnamechange wrote:

In post 2087, Shoshin wrote:We need to lynch Random and it's only going to get harder to do as scum kill players who suspect him. I'm probably dying tonight and definitely before LYLO. So I dunno how we're going to win this if Nancy doesn't rethink that read.

no because that would imply you had any idea what you were talking about

In post 2114, Shoshin wrote:Shepard, why would scum do any of the things that AA9's doing?

for a massive variety of reasons
also no one has considered the fact that even if shoshin's theory (which is insanely bastard) is true it could be aa9 faking it

Yeah, interesting that you brought this up. I’ve been thinking a lot about Sho’s Angel theory and I’m just not seeing it. The only thing mandatory in Mafia is the scum factional kill, nothing else. There is nothing in any one’s role pm ever, that actually FORCES them to do anything and the facts are that Angel not only aggressively pushed a mislynch on a hardclaimed cop, she also voted for Nico and today, she’s trying to lynch the Nico-flipped spewed IC. Angel’s actions IMO are a result of WINCON rather than . No player aggressively pushes two blatantly obvious mislynches unless it’s somehow conducive to their wincon to make it happen.

Angel knows this is a role madness game and unlike whatever reasons Taly crumbed negative utility in a past game, Angel hardclaimed negative utility, in order to make it a lot easier for her to act over the top wolfy. Angel was counting IMO on people being WIFOMed into thinking someone couldn’t possibly have randed scum and behave this way. IOW, GIF, Shoshin and initially Reality were pocketed by her. Thankfully Reality has seen through this charade of hers. Angel is far from a newb to this site, she mods lots of Newbie games on here. So I think both of them may not have been aware of this fact and mistook her for some inexperienced player, which she clearly is not.

Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF

In post 2160, Randomnamechange wrote:Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF

GF?

In post 2160, Randomnamechange wrote:Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF

I think it’s really interesting that we haven’t had a replay of the underground incident on d2. Since that was mostly bad for town - temporarily removing the top 3 posters but also positive in allowing them to have a hood, then the masquerade ball - also good for town because more hoods: it was interestingly the tipping point for the worst to finally be beyond convinced that her hydra buddy was almost certain scum in this game. Also that hillariously ironic video that RC posted kind if makes me wonder if Reality might have actually been onto something with that. Could it all possibly have been player based and Jareth really be a 3P?

In post 2161, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 2160, Randomnamechange wrote:Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF

GF?

godfather

In post 2163, Randomnamechange wrote:

In post 2161, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 2160, Randomnamechange wrote:Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF

GF?

godfather

Why GF over 3P, do you think that isn’t a possibility? The reason is, that Jareth’s actions have not been all bad for town, except the part about them abducting the top 3 posters into the underground and preventing them from voting. Also, it removed 1 Creature vote from the playerlist - Sajj’s.

I am curious as to what the worst, Reality’s and Sajj’s overall analysis of their underground experience is.

In post 2159, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 2158, Randomnamechange wrote:

In post 2087, Shoshin wrote:We need to lynch Random and it's only going to get harder to do as scum kill players who suspect him. I'm probably dying tonight and definitely before LYLO. So I dunno how we're going to win this if Nancy doesn't rethink that read.

no because that would imply you had any idea what you were talking about

In post 2114, Shoshin wrote:Shepard, why would scum do any of the things that AA9's doing?

for a massive variety of reasons
also no one has considered the fact that even if shoshin's theory (which is insanely bastard) is true it could be aa9 faking it

Yeah, interesting that you brought this up. I’ve been thinking a lot about Sho’s Angel theory and I’m just not seeing it. The only thing mandatory in Mafia is the scum factional kill, nothing else. There is nothing in any one’s role pm ever, that actually FORCES them to do anything and the facts are that Angel not only aggressively pushed a mislynch on a hardclaimed cop, she also voted for Nico and today, she’s trying to lynch the Nico-flipped spewed IC. Angel’s actions IMO are a result of WINCON rather than

role

. No player aggressively pushes two blatantly obvious mislynches unless it’s somehow conducive to their wincon to make it happen.

Angel knows this is a role madness game and unlike whatever reasons Taly crumbed negative utility in a past game, Angel hardclaimed negative utility, in order to make it a lot easier for her to act over the top wolfy. Angel was counting IMO on people being WIFOMed into thinking someone couldn’t possibly have randed scum and behave this way. IOW, GIF, Shoshin and initially Reality were pocketed by her. Thankfully Reality has seen through this charade of hers. Angel is far from a newb to this site, she mods lots of Newbie games on here. So I think both of them may not have been aware of this fact and mistook her for some inexperienced player, which she clearly is not.

There is a modifier on MS called compulsive.

If you don’t do what it says your target is randomized.

I highly doubt that is what is going on here.

In post 2160, Randomnamechange wrote:Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF

Why the fuck would the goblin king be anything other than scum?

Why would anyone think The Worst is scum? I'm not understanding that.

Also (I think I saw someone mention this, but I have no clue when or who) I think there could be some merit in the underground event having a scum in it. But it's just scum wifom, so I'm not sure where to start with that. I mentioned it in my masquerade PT but it wasn't super heavily used. Never got past a page.

In post 2167, Chickadee wrote:Why would anyone think The Worst is scum? I'm not understanding that.

Also (I think I saw someone mention this, but I have no clue when or who) I think there could be some merit in the underground event having a scum in it. But it's just scum wifom, so I'm not sure where to start with that. I mentioned it in my masquerade PT but it wasn't super heavily used. Never got past a page.

Who was in your PT? Are you referring to Wheme? He characterized everyone who got sent there as scum. Well the thing is that in general hoods are more useful to town than scum and the underground did have one but it also adversely impacted town but I can’t see anything bad for town with the masquerade ball though.

chickadee was our partner

In post 2162, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 2160, Randomnamechange wrote:Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF

I think it’s really interesting that we haven’t had a replay of the underground incident on d2. Since that was mostly bad for town - temporarily removing the top 3 posters but also positive in allowing them to have a hood, then the masquerade ball - also good for town because more hoods: it was interestingly the tipping point for the worst to finally be beyond convinced that her hydra buddy was almost certain scum in this game.

Also that hillariously ironic video that RC posted kind if makes me wonder if Reality might have actually been onto something with that.

Could it all possibly have been player based and Jareth really be a 3P?

what specifically are you referring to?

the Underground was pretty kewl. we all talked about why we might be in the PT for a bit. we kinda soft agreed it was likely to be a player action. then we raged at Creature not being lynched for a bit.

Threw a few thoughts at the PT as well and came out townreading Anka more than Sajj p much

In post 2148, Commander Shepard wrote:Because Chick is more likely town than AA9
And even if AA9 is town and we are wrong she needs to die.

Lay off from me. Why would you want to lynch a town player? that is fucking anti-town. Your reads are shit and your friend nancy drew is equally shit.


ATTENTION PLEASE:

I AM TOWN AND I HAVE A REASON TO SCREAM LOUD IN CAPS, I AM GOING TO DIE AND I AM PLAYING SO THAT TOWN won't LOOSE!!

In post 2172, ArcAngel9 wrote:

In post 2148, Commander Shepard wrote:Because Chick is more likely town than AA9
And even if AA9 is town and we are wrong she needs to die.

Shoot with Buzuka: Commander

Lay off from me. Why would you want to lynch a town player? that is fucking anti-town. Your reads are shit and your friend nancy drew is equally shit.


ATTENTION PLEASE:

I AM TOWN AND I HAVE A REASON TO SCREAM LOUD IN CAPS, I AM GOING TO DIE AND I AM PLAYING SO THAT TOWN won't LOOSE!!

This is scum pure and simple.

If you shot me without a fucking claim you are dying.

Everyone I have said is town.

I was partners with Shoshin she roleclaomed to me and I to her.

If she isn’t dead by lylo policy.

In post 2126, Commander Shepard wrote:]

Commander Shepherd
Nancy Drew 39
Reality Check

Shoshin

Town unless lylo then conf!scum
Shoshin

Town to worry about if they make it to lylo but not quite conf
The worst

Reads list ordered town to scum
Chickadee
WhemeStar
Taly
Random
Sajj
AA9

Put AA9 in red as fuck

Sajj is dark red pretty damn close
Random is a step Townier than that

Chickadee Wheme and Taly next level

If any deep wolves exist it is either Shoshin or Reality Check in that order.