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Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:21 pm

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Hit I definitely tried to softclaim the kill to you lol.

Saying I was lonely is an allusion to my inability to make friends at night (shooting them). You directly asked if what I did went through and I said yes.

how do you think I was dodging softing? :lol: I categorically hate softing. I'm not sure what more you expected from me here.
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Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:17 pm

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In post 1743, the worst wrote:do you not find the way he claimed a guilty in me super super gross? or
It was gross, I fully admit that.
But I had to be shady about it, to get what I got from you.
You can pretend to hate me all you want, but after this game we will talk about things and be friends again.
And who is this Mark?
In post 1744, Skygazer wrote:Also I find it hard to believe scum-Ausuka would cc like that?? Unless it's to get a mislynch on a dangerous town player?? But I don't see Ausuka doing that if they just lost a scum partner and I'm kind of paranoid about MoI after realizing how dangerous of a scum player he apparently is.
Scum!Ausuka would do it only if they really are a scum!fruit-vendor.
(This actually launched me into this weird theory-tunnel that I'd love to talk about
LATER.
So if anyone remembers/notices this down the line..)
Also, does this mark the time for SkyG making a towny post with a towny observation?
In post 1747, the worst wrote:I think I found some profound reason to scumread Hit at the bottom of a couple of bottles of wine last night but I honestly can't recall it. I'll join you here.

VOTE: Elbirn
Bet those bottles were very old? Came from the kingdom of Ohmagad? Yusuk-grapes and all?
No
Wonder
you can't
see
what made you vote me anymore..
In post 1750, Inferno390 wrote:Ehhh
I can get on board with the Elbirn wagon. Taly’s case is pretty solid.
VOTE: Elbirn
One of the reasons why Inferno gets scumread by me every single game we play together. Posts like these.
If I had to try and put it to words, it would be something like "trying to act casual when moving my vote, while also giving a reason for doing it, but those reasons are shaky and might hold no basis whatsoever, but I'll stop driving my previous agenda completely until it seems there's a chance to return to that."
I think you've done this type of a post every game we have played together/I have read from you, and I guess I'll always scumread you for these..
In post 1766, Raskolnikov wrote:Of stronger push-dram interactions I think at most 1 of (Taly, HA, inferno, TW) would be a bus/distance, e.g. at minimum 3/4 of said group is town.
I believe this line from Rask to be very accurate.
In post 1766, Raskolnikov wrote:Overall I don't think scum even interacted with dram or dram wagon all that much, the bulk of it occurred in a brief time window and most of those actively involved read town,
I think most of scum ignored it or pushed elsewhere
rather than really even comment.
So basically 1/2 scum on my wagon at all times.
In post 1767, Skygazer wrote:To clarify: I have a tendency to sheep my townreads, especially if I agree with their analysis. I did sus brass and MoI for small but not insignificant reasons to kind of poke and prod a little bit, but I don't feel comfy voting for either of them rn. MoI was a massive townread for me on D1 and I'm worried I'm just getting paranoid about him. Brass bussing dram doesn't make much sense so I still continue to townread him but his HWS vote lightly pinged me because he's only talked about his HWS read briefly and I don't get why he thinks that's the best place for his vote atm. I don't really have much to go on with HWS compared to Elbirn who started the xyzzy counterwagon and I've thought that that wagon had scum on it since yesterday so this is where I want my vote.
OK, this post somehow resonates with me.
Like, I can see how this is an honest post from a newbie!town..might have to reconsider this slot.
Note to self:
IF THIS SLOT IS A NEWBIE!TOWN, IT WOULD MEAN THAT ANYONE WHO WASN'T ON DRAMONIC, AND WAS POSSIBLY VOTING ONLY ME/SKYG D1 IS HEAVILY IMPLICATED.

In post 1787, Chickadee wrote:Can you just drop it. It doesn't do any good for me to confirm or deny this.
This attitude from Chick is giving me scumvibes. Lot of them.
In a game with something like 200 PR-claims so far, it can't hurt for Chick to claim a modifier or at least give some reasoning as to why not claim it.
Just saying "drop it"/"not gonna tell" gives me vibes that the claim is fake in it's entirety.
Also would like to say that even with all the role-crazyness around, I find it hard to believe there's both a Vig AND a Vengeful around.. :roll:
In post 1796, Inferno390 wrote:Chick’s super aggressive defense and refusal to share other modifiers is bothering me a lot.
Yuss.
In post 1800, Taly wrote:TW being a potential SK is low priority right now. There's no CC, I'd even question a CC at the moment, and he did shoot a scum PR with an argument to say he's town to have done it.
Read what I said in my previous wall.
There were multiple unsorted/null -slots to shoot at. Now I'm not criticizing the end-result, but I think it was an uncharacteristic shot for town!Duck any way you might look at it.
In post 1800, Taly wrote:Scum would likely want him dead, regardless of his alignment. I'm not doing the Mafia's dirty work.
This should be true, however I am worried with all the roles around, that there's a chance for another a scum-protective..
In post 1802, Taly wrote:
Inferno's
messy

But it's town-messy, if that makes sense.
Yes, and now I think Taly is either a VERY deep wolf or just town.

--TAKING A BREAK FROM CATCHING UP, WILL FINISH THIS LATER TODAY OR TOMORROW.--
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Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:32 pm

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In post 1822, Pine wrote:[L-3] Elbirn - the worst, Inferno390, Skygazer, Raskolnikov, Taly
Oh, before I log off - this here seems to be a full "not Mafia"-wagon on Elbirn. (whether you think Ducky is SK/Vig/Werewolf/"Mafia B" it still holds true)
SkyG and Taly both still hold the potential to be scum, but I'm starting to lean town on both.
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Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:57 pm

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In post 2139, profii wrote:
In post 2131, Andrius wrote:Profii responded to Chickadee but it doesn't appear that they responded to you. (?)
I wanted to challenge chickadee because she made no effort to think about

“Removing SK means less night kills, means more town elected lynched”

Instead, just creating a reason to get on a wagon to get herself in a safe place today:

“Voting profii because he is SK hunting, I can say that because it’s site meta I don’t need to think any further”



It’s massively massively bad


Anything else I’ll do on a computer later but that just super stood out for me so phone posted
Just answer my question from earlier! I specifically addressed an issue and you are ignoring it. It bothers me.
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Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:02 am

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Hit when you're caught up we should talk more
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Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:42 am

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Am I wrong with my scumreads and scum suspects right now?

This questions has finally hit me. Will wallpost later.
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
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"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
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Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:43 am

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I feel like I'm hitting and missing here, but I'm not sure.
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"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
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Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:52 am

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Wait, I’ve played multiple games with Hit before?
Who the heck are you?
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Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:06 am

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Inferno
, when you have time from border-sheeping my
Elbirn
-case and my
Profii
-"case", can you actually finish the
MOI/Andrius
summary?
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Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:12 am

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In post 2158, Taly wrote:
Inferno
, when you have time from border-sheeping my
Elbirn
-case and my
Profii
-"case", can you actually finish the
MOI/Andrius
summary?
Yes, and I am working on it
I just have had about 0 contact with a computer for the last 2 days and that doesn’t look to change anytime soon.
The moment I sit down at a computer I’ll get it done tho.
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Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:21 am

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Could you make concise bullets that don't have to involve post links or quotes?
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Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:34 am

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In post 2138, Skygazer wrote:Hey xyzzy, what are your thoughts on {me, Almost50/elbirn, profii}?
working on an answer to this question
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Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:36 am

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In post 2121, Andrius wrote:Thing is, Magna, I almost want to lynch xyzzy for the MIA but I want to give her time to actually show up and play.
seriously what part of this do you not understand
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Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:41 am

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In post 2160, Taly wrote:Could you make concise bullets that don't have to involve post links or quotes?
Working on it now. Just finished Andrius D1. But I’m also at work doing this by phone, so don’t hold your breath.

Just wanted to pop in and say this though.
I realized why Hit thinks he was the target last night.
He said something about someone being so loud he couldn’t help but hear them.
This is a reference to the Loud modifier.
WHICH MEANS SOMEONE TARGETED HIM LAST NIGHT.
This is important because it means someone has info on Hit that they are not sharing, or he was really the NK and it got blocked somehow.
Ether way, this point needs to be resolved pronto.
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Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:29 am

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In post 2103, the worst wrote:HWS I'm gonna make you cookies after this game is over
Great but you're probably gonna stab me to death first seriously I'm considering it

If you would claim modifier/no modifier I may be able to figure stuff out

If we would do this my way we would lynch in Sky/Chick/Worst

Andy how exactly are you confing chick? I'm not too fond of her rn
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Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:26 am

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In post 2163, Inferno390 wrote:I realized why Hit thinks he was the target last night.
He said something about someone being so loud he couldn’t help but hear them.
This is a reference to the Loud modifier.
WHICH MEANS SOMEONE TARGETED HIM LAST NIGHT.
This is important because it means someone has info on Hit that they are not sharing, or he was really the NK and it got blocked somehow.
Ether way, this point needs to be resolved pronto.
No wait, this WASN'T clear to everyone already?
I do not want this "loud"-player to claim, and beg of everyone not to push for it. (at least for now)
I have
reason to believe
they are a town!protective (something I absolutely refuse to be more specific on for now. Obviously.), but of course they could just be a scum-role.
I do have my reasons however, and if they truly are a protective townie, Occams Machete would suggest to me that scum tried to kill me last night.
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Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:27 am

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I'll make another wall before going to bed, and then continue from there tomorrow.
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Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:31 am

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Oh, I knew you were referring to loud.
It just hadn’t clicked yet that it meant that you specifically had been targeted at night.
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Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:32 am

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In post 2123, the worst wrote:A50 are you our new Elbirn?
Not exactly. Truth is Elbrin was filling in for me. :P

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Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:37 am

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1- Pine retracting his modkill on Inferno = Inferno is scum
2- Chicka stabbing Pine = Chicka is scum

And what's that talk about the Vig? Do we have claims I should know of? Was the Mafioso killed overnight? And if so where did the MAfia kill go?

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Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:39 am

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In post 2150, the worst wrote:Hit I definitely tried to softclaim the kill to you lol.

Saying I was lonely is an allusion to my inability to make friends at night (shooting them). You directly asked if what I did went through and I said yes.

how do you think I was dodging softing? :lol: I categorically hate softing. I'm not sure what more you expected from me here.
So YOU are the Vig?? A duckling with a gun is such a dangerous combination if you ask me. Is it "man hunting season" for you?

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Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:41 am

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In post 2169, Almost50 wrote:1- Pine retracting his modkill on Inferno = Inferno is scum
2- Chicka stabbing Pine = Chicka is scum

And what's that talk about the Vig? Do we have claims I should know of? Was the Mafioso killed overnight? And if so where did the MAfia kill go?
Hit claims the mafia kill hit him, which is wrong, because I'm pretty sure no mafia team hits someone that was almost lynched in the day phase, no matter how strong they claim their PR is.

The Mafia kill was likely at me because I activated a shot of Bulletproof.
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Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:39 am

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@brass: Pretty informative. Thanks a mil.

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Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:08 am

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In post 2112, Andrius wrote:Plan doesn't go ENTIRELY out of the window and I highly doubt the NRG would approve of a game with the entire scumteam having the 'Multitasking' modifier but S I G H.
yeah, I was trying to imply there that it makes sense for there to be a Mafia Multitasking Fruit Vendor who can fruitvend and kill so that they aren't implicated when they stop giving out fruit.
In post 2114, Inferno390 wrote:
In post 2104, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2039, Inferno390 wrote:Gonna slap Ausuka for her scumlist on the Elbirn wagon.
Not sure what you mean by this? If you mean my list of possible scum on the profii wagon- I meant that in the literal sense because for me it's not possible for raskol to be scum.
Yeah I meant the Profii wagon.
And the reason I said this is because due to the dram flip and subsequent happenings, TW is either vig or SK, and I’m basically conftown. (I’ve been floating this a lot, I know, but I dare someone to find a good case on me that takes my tunnel on dram into account. I DARE you.)

So saying TW-Myself-Sky are possible scum votes is akin to shading Sky as scum at this point. And I think that’s just blah.
it doesn't really matter how obviously town you think yourself to be; it is possible that you are red. it is not likely that you are red at all but because it's possible you belong in a list of possible scum votes.
In post 2121, Andrius wrote: And Ausuka's also been real quiet which is unsettling.
i'm trying.

i feel like every post profii made recently is kind of a scumclaim to the point where I'm not sure scum would behave in this way :/
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Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:00 am

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@Ausuka:
So I’m not likely to be scum, but my vote on Profii makes me possible scum?
Really?
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