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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:00 am
by Shoshin
Can you explain why Irrel, the strongest scum player in the game, is locktown to you?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:18 am
by Fuscosco
I never called him this?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:19 am
by Fuscosco
I will tell you what though. I have to reread some of the game atsomepoint. Ill see if I dont see some scum mot somewhere? cuz thats what we should be looking for.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:20 am
by Fuscosco
hmmm 19 hours.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:20 am
by Auro
Yes, I think he's the likeliest from priors.
What's your case on Shoshin? Explain the "interactions" and "associations"?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:20 am
by Vedith
In post 2150, Shoshin wrote:Can you explain why Irrel, the strongest scum player in the game, is locktown to you?
Is this to me?
I don't really lock Town players.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:21 am
by Auro
Vedith, recap on the Volxen scum case?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:29 am
by Fuscosco
If he is scum, its Irre/ScumRead/[3rd party who isnt obivous rn]
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:30 am
by Auro
Fuscosco, I'm asking why you think Shoshin is scum.
Your argument is that she's the best "information lynch", if I read right.
I want to know the "associations and interactions" you're speaking of.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:31 am
by Fuscosco
Scum wouldnt put two of themselves against any one of these, I feel. its super wifomy and we'd have all game to suspect them.
I dont trust vedi to produce a cohesive and detailed list of why 'volx is scum'
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:31 am
by Fuscosco
In post 2158, Auro wrote:Fuscosco, I'm asking why you think Shoshin is scum.
Your argument is that she's the best "information lynch", if I read right.
I want to know the "associations and interactions" you're speaking of.
relax. youre fighting for them harder than they are themselves.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:32 am
by Auro
We have 19 hours and need to consolidate on to a lynch.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:33 am
by Fuscosco
I dont see volx as scum. I continue to see misguided newish town here.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:33 am
by Auro
Oh it's plurality vote, I think.
That gives scum more control over the lynch.
Right now Shoshin would be lynched considering plurality, right?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:34 am
by Auro
Volxen isn't new, but I know the player very well and he's very likely town.
But you're voting Shoshin, and I want to talk about that.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:35 am
by Fuscosco
And I dont see shoshin as scum. Theyve dialed way back today, but in a good way.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:35 am
by Fuscosco
VOTE: irrel
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:36 am
by Fuscosco
From what Ive read this is where to go, and rereading more on SRs would give me scum number 3
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:37 am
by Fuscosco
Sure, youve convinced me. I mean if one has to die, Im comfortable with this as well.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:38 am
by Auro
Cool. I'd still love a case and rebuttal to Shoshin's self-case from anyone who wants her lynched.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:47 am
by Fuscosco
In post 2164, Auro wrote:
Volxen isn't new, but I know the player very well and he's very likely town.
His style speaks for itself. He may not be new, but his style is one often used by new people. Its not denigrating.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:15 am
by Irrelephant11
In post 2146, Shoshin wrote: In post 2141, volxen wrote:@Irrelephant, Do you think that scum!Shoshin would be able to reasonably predict that you would be willing to sacrifice yourself in order to stop her from getting nightkilled, as long as she could convince you that she is town? I'm just curious if you think that's a reasonable thought process to come from scum!Shoshin based on your history together, because if it is then it substantially reduces her risk in self-nominating as scum.
My prediction of Irrel's behavior around me is that he never sacrifices himself for me ever again because of what happened in Starcraft. I'm amazed he's doing it here and grateful but it's not at all what I ever would have predicted.
I agree that Shoshin could never have seen this coming as either alignment, it’s basically the most surprising thing I could do fhpov. I stand by it, though. I won’t be inviting or fighting my lynch
Don’t lynch Shoshin before lylo - and if I were still alive, I’d sheep Shoshin as long as she hit scum once every two phases.
Don’t lynch Alonzo before the day before lylo
Don’t lynch volxen or Auro unless they push each other’s lynch
Shoshin, save DT’s lynch for after you’ve hit a scum. Of your scumreads, he’s my townlean.
Any other questions about my reads or thoughts?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:16 am
by Irrelephant11
*unvoting or fighting
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:28 am
by ejjinami
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:28 am
by ejjinami