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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:19 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
OSTENTATIOUS wrote:
Arkham Asylum
Pine
Chickadee
CheekyTeeky
Here are your flips, everyone
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:20 pm
by Arkham Asylum
In post 986, Pine wrote:I have information softconfirming that DEB was scum.
I will not be elaborating.
So let’s move off of the “if DEB was scum” angle.
I'm confused rereading this, didn't Pine claim VT?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:22 pm
by Arkham Asylum
In post 1013, Pine wrote:Scum has practically no reason to bus.
DEB’s EOD wagon was likely 100% Town, though it’s possible someone was bussing out of habit.
scum are mathematically guaranteed to have bussed and this post also didn't make sense at the time
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:22 pm
by Arkham Asylum
I feel like I'm scumcasing Pine but I'm literally just rereading isos
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:22 pm
by Arkham Asylum
I've been reading through d1 again and I'm really confused as to how Pine isn't just scum here????????
~ Poison Ivy
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:23 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
FL swung by briefly (I outed, he commented) but hasn't had time to hit Krazy's question yet
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:29 pm
by Arkham Asylum
In post 1405, Pine wrote: In post 1383, NerfedBuJ wrote:For what it's worth I didn't ask pine to claim more details just for the lols. I wanted to gauge the strength of the soft guilty.
I'm no where near as confident as FL about it but I still lean towards DEB being town.
I'm like 90% confident. It's plausible I'm misreading the slip/tell I caught, but the lack of a night kill really seals the deal. Either the scumteam no-killed (entirely possible) or DEB was not a Doc Enabler. You don't have a save N1 if the Doctor is switched off.
So this is interesting when compared to:
In post 736, Pine wrote:ANNOUNCEMENT: I have done a meta deep dive (for certain values of "deep") on DEB and it significantly weakened some of my concerns about him. I can't go into too many details for ~reasons~.
neither meta tell on DEB is ever explained
note to self: reread context here
In post 1467, Pine wrote: In post 1465, Egix96 wrote:Between all current wagons, my lynch preference is
mastina > Pine > BStar ~= Leaf > Asylum
Yeaaaah, not sure I like this.
"I'll vote any of these wagons if you give me a pretext to!"
It's hard for me to believe Pine makes a post this bad as town
In post 1510, Pine wrote:I don’t hate a JJH lynch, but a deadline crusade isn’t going to work
wolfy if jjh was scum
See the thing is he hard back-pedaled the "info that softconfirmed"... if it was just setup spec based on DEB claiming doctor enabler, then why not just say that in thee first place?
-Kat
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:30 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
FL says he doesn't know but you can bring up the Last Knight Tomorrow
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:31 pm
by Arkham Asylum
Yeah, Dann claimed his doc save in 1046;
1424 strongly implies that Pine understood the consequences of the claimed doc save which means that
In post 2067, Pine wrote:Okay, I missed this entirely. It's really irritating that no one brought it up (at all afaik) around the fake guilty, as it appears to completely exonerate AA.
is nagl
-kat
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:33 pm
by Arkham Asylum
I've looked through Pine's ISO and I really don't think his thought processes in general line up
~ Poison Ivy
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:34 pm
by Arkham Asylum
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:36 pm
by Arkham Asylum
BuJaber had very town posts in D1
Chickadee had very town interactions with DEB on D1
we're noshit town
lynch Pine kill Cheeky if game isn't over
~ Poison Ivy
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:36 pm
by Arkham Asylum
the scum is 100% within those two slots
~ Poison Ivy
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:37 pm
by Arkham Asylum
VOTE: Pine
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:37 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
We need to hear from both Cheeky, and Pine. They'll both need to approve of whatever strategy we use going forward.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:39 pm
by Arkham Asylum
sure but I'm not seeing a universe where I support a lynch on anyone other than pine today
~ Poison Ivy
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:41 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
I actually want to work with Pine to solve this a little.
he did seem legitimately vexed by the lack of flips and I think now we actually have the game mechflipped down to 4 slots might inspire him a bit.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:49 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
@Ank, mastina will be reading the dead pt & reareading the game tomorrow.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:53 pm
by Arkham Asylum
Well, I kinda don't think it's you Ost, although given the dead thread vig I guess you're not essential to town power so you're not really town off setup spec anymore.
Ank is arguing Chicka is town... now the problem here is that we know that Deb was bussing day 1, since he bussed himself!
but
708 is kinda not s/s, ank is right there -- I personally still dislike
238, though
also personally didn't love the hammer
cheeky is tricky -- according to your story, scum gambited on a mastina kill to save cheeky. but 2 scum would be dead, which means that if cheeky was last scum, then dead thread would vig cheeky tonight. This seems to imply that cheeky probably is not the last scum? although speculating based on the dead thread is rough when we do not have access to it
I personally would have gone pine-->chicka but ank seems pretty strong on chicka town. So if you want to talk about that, sure, but I think Pine should usually be the lynch here because he is the last scum
-kat
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:53 pm
by Arkham Asylum
wow, this is the most mastina answer ever
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:58 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
uhh so I was kinda like "hey I'm gonna let Pine think he has a shot" in the dead thread because for a moment i forgot the last scum can probably still talk to DEB and jjh
so that was kinda dumb
@Pine, you do look the worst here. would you mind letting me know when you're around? I need your 2p PoE now we have the flips.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:59 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
FL was right Day 2, with his Jjh/pine solve
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:11 pm
by Chickadee
It’s 2 am and I haven’t had internet since Monday.
But I’ll get to this at work tomorrow.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:11 pm
by Chickadee
Mastina is never going to read this game. Mastina is never going to give input.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:12 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
No worries. Welcome back!
Do you have 15 minutes before you go?