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Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:39 pm

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In post 2110, Disaster Artists wrote:from gobble I thought this was lowkey pockety (afaik she was almost the only person that I thought knew my main at this point and I thought she was joking about TvA and now I'm less sure)
What are you trying to say in this post? That you felt this post was pockety coming from Titus, or that it was pockety coming from me? I did not know your main until about a page ago. I think when I said that I had knowledge you were in TvA but there were still so many people not explicitly playing this game that I just decided to throw back to TvA.

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Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:40 pm

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Yeah I thought you knew my main but I buy that you didn't

it was a weird random comment then *shrug* threw me off

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Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:41 pm

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In post 2149, Equitable Androids wrote:What do you mean by vote logic here?
I want to see who will or won't vote you

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Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:42 pm

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In post 2142, Mikoto and Kuroko wrote:I have recently played a game with scum!gobble, failed hard at reading him so i'm not placing any confidence in that. My experience with titus is limited but i think it's town!titus.

Meta aside, i don't think equitable is scum based on this game's play. I'm going to sleep over this and get back tomorrow with a fresh mind

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From what I can tell, you thought I was too scummy to be scum. :P I would also hope that from reading that game no one would think I was scum in this game, but it appears I was wrong.

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Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:25 pm

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oh also
DA
has warranted my hard-defense of their slot.

so
Disaster Artist
,
Despair Night
, and
Imperium
are slots I will towncase to hell and back.

another thing: why did people magically decide
titus hydra
is scum? am I misted by the fact that
titus
has and I haven't 1v1'd for 3 days straight?

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Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:36 pm

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In post 2093, Spiffybringer wrote:
In post 2086, Blake X Yang wrote:I wish I could sort Spiffy/Ego by being like "YO, TALK TO ME" but I think I've been non-existent to both hydrae.
What do you want to talk about? You can ISO me if you want I'm p. obviously town

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-Why did you think
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-I don't understand the scumread on
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; I have a hard time seeing coming from scum in any universe because scum never survives long here.

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Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:53 pm

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Spiffeh,

You can suggest I am scum for literally following my T v A playbook, minus the confident reads. Go right on ahead. My job isn't to convince you that I am town but to scumhunt. By working with you, I can sort your alignment. You seem to imply that working with you = assuming you're town. Far from it. I've highlighted the very missing Firebringer. I also asked you specifically who to work with to see if you actually did that yourself when I felt well and had the time.

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Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:54 pm

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I think we need a vote count.

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Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:30 pm

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yOu CaN wOrK wItH mE
tItUs


nah, really, I want to solidify my read on you, and see how solid you are here. Where should we start?

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Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:38 pm

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Wherever you want? I am an open book. I work better with a specific question about a subject, particularly on day 1. If you're asking me who we should lynch, Smol is my preferred lynch target.

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Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:45 pm

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I'm here to hunt scum and drink lemonade and I'm all out of lemonade

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Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:50 pm

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In post 1836, Blake X Yang wrote:When I called you out, your response was to take the time to set up your counterpush with shade and by taking the time to go into your other reads first. My personality read on you suggests that you would wish to challenge me outright immediately instead of the political approach that you instead used. I strongly suspect that your approach is based on increasing your own odds of winning the upcoming engagement as much as possible in order to stall the momentum rather than risking a direct confrontation immediately and coming across as defensive or starting on the back foot in this engagement.
I am in full agreement with this assessment of Farkran minus the meta part. I definitely think this is a fair representation of what Farkran did.

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by the way I think I might be moving our vote to M&K since that seems to be Chemist's strongest scumread rn and my scumread strength isn't defined very effectively yet.
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Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:52 pm

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In post 1844, Flavortown wrote:I hope it’s blatantly obvious how town I am.

~Ferrari
In post 1845, Flavortown wrote:I’m stereotypical inactive town role on a first time hydra flavor.

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Do you want to test me on this? You know how my track record on reading into your inactivity is.

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Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:55 pm

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In post 1857, Despair Night wrote:If you shoot me, you aren't going to have a nice Day 2.

I'll let you chew on what that entails. Plenty of options.

~som
Alternate suggestion: shoot Junko :good:

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Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:02 pm

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In post 1895, Mikoto and Kuroko wrote:If you want ME to get off this topic, produce more content outside of this topic.

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Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:05 pm

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In post 1909, Disaster Artists wrote:Also the shop is rerolled day 2 and everything in the shop right now is really strong at good prices.

-JC
Where does it say the shop rerolls entirely?

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Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:06 pm

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In post 1912, Despair Night wrote:I hope I’m doing my post-by-post re-read of thread on page 80 when everyone is sleeping

~som
In post 1913, Despair Night wrote:Aiming for 24 consecutive posts

~som
:igmeou:

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Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:10 pm

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In post 1934, Disaster Artists wrote:
BILLBOARD TOWN


Imperium


I hooded this hydra and while I had them as basically locktown off in-thread interactions, I would have locktowned them basically immediately off the hood. Like I know my characterization of a hood is not helpful to some people but let me tell you, these two do not have access to the scum PT. They just don't.

At this point I'd view any suspicion of this slot with about as much skepticism as suspicion of my own.

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While there's always the concern that I wish Blake was like this almost every game, I'm not going to let "it's too good to be true" be a reason to not hard town this slot. Each head is townie independently. The one concern would be that Taly might be lowkey scum-polarized but I think the reach outs and struggle to get involved in this game all much more matches town Taly than scum Taly in my mind. Recent posting has all been billboard town tbh.

TOWN


Feminist Bloq
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lol why is this slot getting any scumreads at all?

I don't have the best hit rate on Ausuka generally, and of course Datisi would be easier to read if he was playing the main game and not just minigames. So two reasons to not hard say this should be a billboard read. But basically everything Ausuka has posted in the main thread just seems... good? I don't know how else to put it but this slot should just be town

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This slot should have been IC levels and it's dropped off a lot but let's be real. Firebringer is scum-polarized and he's not playing so that's lame but it doesn't make him scum. And Spiffy's initial mindmeld with me on Tammy was super town, which unfortunately he then just... gave up for no reason by backpedaling on the townread. Still second-guessing a snap townread is probably more town indicative than scum indicative? Maybe not but most of Spiffy's posting has been fine and this slot should probably just be town, with the caveat that the play here is just really different from TvA. But he was mason in TvA so I don't know how that might have impacted his approach.

I wouldn't bet a lot of money on this slot and I won't feel bad if I'm wrong but probably one of the townier slots in the game.

Latios and Latias


Normally I wouldn't be inclined to dignify Gamma with a townread right now given he's been a naughty boi lately, but I think it's kinda ridiculous that after Minesweeper 2 more people seemed to want to throw townreads on Prism when Gamma did the very townie reach out there. And Gamma wanting to work with someone in a temp PT is pretty town gamma tbh -- https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11721774

also https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11721828 is good posting

NL
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In post 217, NL wrote:My flavor is mod-confirmed 0/10.

I'm already town as f just for this.
Honestly this slot would be billboard town but I don't want Maria to start cultivating a meta of doing even LESS as town

Yeah, I know, off play objectively this slot should be null. But that Maria is putting 0 effort into getting townread frankly probably heavily spews her town LOL

QUOTE UNQUOTE "NULL"

Egospray
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In post 941, egospray wrote:1. Hectic felt really in your face in and direct to people. Almost like he was power playing and taking control. Here he feels like he's goofing off more right now.
2.3.
3.
Tempted to townlean off this. My #1 concern with this slot is bugspray not playing the main thread which basically prohibits me from moving this slot up to town, because that's really night and day from schadd's mystery box game and a lot more consistent with bug being a town-polarized player. I'm still talking with DRK about this read though and might have more since I think she has some different expectations.

Cappy
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I would never really consider lynching this slot before day 4. The question is, if it's still alive, is it the day 4 lynch? And my answer to that is: that won't be my problem because I'm never surviving to day 4 this game. So there's literally no reason to read this slot because I'm never lynching them while events are running, and I am absolutely confident that in a game with this many kills that I die well before then.

Despair Night
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Not accepting the masonry was a big mistake.

Saying to vig me was a bigger mistake if he wanted to be alive on day 3.

That being said, I'd trust Blake's read on insomnia over mine own this game. I'd still shoot him night 2 even if she townread him, but I'm not shooting him night 1. I don't think I would ever consider him for a day 1 lynch unless Blake said he was the day 1 lynch. That's actually exactly where I'm at on him right now. Insomnia being null to Blake is probably my biggest concern with him. And frankly him going through like three different stages of grief after I said I was going to shoot him was.... weird and not particularly townie.

Doing this list took too long, part 2 with the bottom half continues after breakfast.

-JOHN CENA
If this slot flips town I might end up sheeping this

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Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:10 pm

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In post 2, Superb Subtlety wrote:
The Setup


The Basics

>
There are 4 scum and 13 town in this setup.
>
No lynch can be achieved until all events have concluded for that day.
>
If all events have concluded and someone is at lynch threshold, the day will immediately end.
>
This is an anything upick.
>
This game did not have balance in mind when designing. Some roles will be crazier then others, our jobs as the moderator is to give you a role that feels true in the truest sense for your character.
>
The Role will always win in a conflict between the role and the rules.

Hydras

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Each Head of the Hydra will recieve a role.
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Upon Lynch, both heads of the hydra will flip with their Role PMs.
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A Hydra cannot be targetted with an action, instead you must target the heads of the Hydra.
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If a head of a hydra were to die, they may communiate with their alive partner
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If a head of a hydra were to die, their alignment and role will not flip until the other half of the hydra dies. Their flavor however will flip.
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If a head of a hydra were to die, the hydra account that was previously used cannot post. Instead, the alive head must use their main account to post.
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Scum factional kill will kill hydras.

Events

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There will be events and prizes recieved from said events.
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To explain events, events are minigames that will happen at certain time. People will /in for the event once it goes into sign-ups to play the minigame. Some events are global and everyone can play in them, so you won't have to /in for them
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Events will last for the first 4 days of the day.
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Events will only happen on days 1, 2, and 3.
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There will be 8 events in 1 day phase.
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The first event will be ran by jjh at 12PM est and the second will be ran by Alisae at 8PM Eastern.
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Half of the events will have penalities for being in last place, and half of them will not.
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Saying what the penalty is results in a modkill and the penalty being changed to something far more harsh.
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The penalty of the event will never result in a kill.
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If you win or place (1st, 2nd, 3rd) in an event, you will recieve money. (1st = 100$, 2nd = 75$, 3rd = 50$)
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No talking about the game in the main thread until the event is finished.
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No talking about the game outside the private topics for the event to anyone including your hydra partners until the event is over.
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Any number of heads of a hydra can join but they must join individually.
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Join on your solo account or clearly tag what head you are when joining the event.
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If we are suspecting that you are cordinating in events with your hydra partner, then we will modkill your slot with no mercy.

Shop

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During Days 1, 2, and 3, the shop will be open and will have a different inventory.
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The Shop will also be open during the night.
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Day 4 and onward, the shop will only feature Role Related Items.
Read end of post 2 here

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Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:12 pm

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In post 1949, Disaster Artists wrote:No free passes. I'm not rewarding or encouraging a "do jack shit early day 1" meta for you boon
Lurking Flavor honestly is >rand scum for him

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Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:13 pm

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Different inventory doesn't equal a "full reroll"
It's equally valid for more items to be added on

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Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:16 pm

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In post 1955, Mikoto and Kuroko wrote:VOTE: Egospray this is not the lynch i want, but it's the lynch i can take. I still think that Egospray vs The Searchers is TvS and i'm afraid i'm on the wrong side of the vote, but i can work with fixing that another day. DA is still a good lynch but all his reads are pretty much the opposite of mine and i really don't know where they could possibly come from. Consider me still on DA if interest shifts.
I might have missed this but why is egospray and Searcher TvS? Also, what are the points for each one being the scum/town one?

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Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:18 pm

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You're right

It could be a full reroll or it could include some items from day before

But there's basically no guarantee any item will be there the next day so I think we should play as though it can be a full reroll

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Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:22 pm

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In post 2014, Disaster Artists wrote:
In post 2012, Feminist Blocc wrote:ok i'm late but who cares

I wanted to write mine about Pine cos he's been a friend for like.. years now, I think? he's funny, really enjoyable to talk to, and just a great person in general. also, a few years ago when I had, like, no idea how to play scum at all and kept losing marathons he gave me some advice on how to play scum and even though I'm still really bad at it I
have
won a scum game since then and he helped me improve!

also now that the event is done, like, is it even possible to give each other money?? i was confused about that and looked for a bit and I didn't see anything. maybe I'm just stupid but :lol:
it doesn't matter if pink ball can actually give the money out lol
Yeah given you can't spend your partner's money I think it's non-transferable
Which is why I wasn't too fussed about it being on a page I was likely to miss.

-Latios

Also I think the shop will probably always have the role item, double or nothing, and mystery box
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Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:23 pm

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In post 2017, Equitable Androids wrote:
In post 2011, Disaster Artists wrote:
In post 2009, Equitable Androids wrote:Do you view Boon's scum play as literally doing nothing?

- Hoop
I mean you were in TvA so you should know the answer is yes if you remember day 1

That was a major point of discussion lol

-JC
Who are you?
I also mostly do not agree with the assessment that Boon does nothing as scum. I feel like he's manic as scum and does a lot of crazy stuff to obfuscate people's reads one another. Can he at times be lurky? Yes, but so can everyone

- Meep
PSA: if you can't figure who JC is by now you're obviously not reading the damn game

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