In post 2147, Raya36 wrote:I'm really torn on you TSE. I get the feeling that you're town with really bad reads but I can't possibly see how you read midway so strongly as town from a town perspective
In post 2124, Starbuck wrote:He literally didn't understand why I would have talked with farside in the Quiz PT last night. I mean, come on.
ngl I don't think he is scum still... which probably says a lot about my willingness to town read people.
Idk he is just vibing and making enemies, hard pushing people at random the way scum just don't want to play lol.
I see that as no town motive.
He scum read unwnd and that disappears out of the blue?
He holds a scum read with no visible reason on players.
I dont see anything more the trying to get by. I mean he claimed to be a great scum hunter and i dont see it.
Why no pivot after unwnd?
I think your read on him is bad. He looks like he gets to float by while you accept that.
I was scum reading abr. There was some weird things he did as i said. If i wanted a bottom 3 I'd like tse, mid, spring currently.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:09 am
by farside22
Well tse seems a little too confident in that mid town read. Maybe picketing mid if tse is scum
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:13 am
by MariaR
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:13 am
by Titus
In post 2151, farside22 wrote:I was scum reading abr. There was some weird things he did as i said.
I have no doubt. Why don't you take a look at him again, supposing ABR subbed out because he didn't get what he wanted? His town and scumreads are based off manipulation.
He threatened me once when I was cleared by conftown because I suspected him. He picked a fight with obvtown because he could. His scumreads changed to who was most vulnerable and who stood up to him. I can get you the link if you'd like.
I'm very much a champion for the underdogs, so ABR and I buttheads so much and so hard we don't play together. He makes games toxic as his way of avoiding being lynched.
In post 2146, Raya36 wrote:Your town read on midway just doesnt feel genuine. You say he's locktown to you but your only reasoning is he has a good scum case on you when half the game thinks you're scum too and tone. And I completely disagree with tone anyway. His tone is not suggesting town to me.
We can rig the order where TSE and Midway are the bottom two. I volunteer to be third in that setup. I think TSE might be town just terribly wrong.
If TSE is correct, a midway flip let's the group as a whole reset.
This is ok with me. I've been thinking so hard about how we can give TSE the chain but not Midway and it's just not possible. I don't trust TSE to not give it to Midway even if we get him to promise lol
We can't even let TSE be the 2nd last and have Midway in the bottom two because obviously whoever the other bottom 2 is will get lynched.
In post 2151, farside22 wrote:I was scum reading abr. There was some weird things he did as i said.
I have no doubt. Why don't you take a look at him again, supposing ABR subbed out because he didn't get what he wanted? His town and scumreads are based off manipulation.
He threatened me once when I was cleared by conftown because I suspected him. He picked a fight with obvtown because he could. His scumreads changed to who was most vulnerable and who stood up to him. I can get you the link if you'd like.
I'm very much a champion for the underdogs, so ABR and I buttheads so much and so hard we don't play together. He makes games toxic as his way of avoiding being lynched.
Ive played with him recently. He was more quiet in guns and roses and he fought with dc, but eventually he calmed down after some toxic moments there.
I wish i could explain better the things i saw.
I noticed he followed other players reads and then acted like he caught confirmed scum with unwnd. Abr most definitely didn't appreciate a comment i made in this game, but that was late day 1.......im going check something
In post 2151, farside22 wrote:I was scum reading abr. There was some weird things he did as i said.
I have no doubt. Why don't you take a look at him again, supposing ABR subbed out because he didn't get what he wanted? His town and scumreads are based off manipulation.
He threatened me once when I was cleared by conftown because I suspected him. He picked a fight with obvtown because he could. His scumreads changed to who was most vulnerable and who stood up to him. I can get you the link if you'd like.
I'm very much a champion for the underdogs, so ABR and I buttheads so much and so hard we don't play together. He makes games toxic as his way of avoiding being lynched.
You mean he did all that as town? I think I've only played 1 game with him so I don't know his meta strongly
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:39 am
by Raya36
Same question for farside. Was he town that game?
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:44 am
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 2147, Raya36 wrote:I'm really torn on you TSE. I get the feeling that you're town with really bad reads but I can't possibly see how you read midway so strongly as town from a town perspective
In post 2107, Raya36 wrote:Actually TSE, can you explain why Midway is lockdown to you? Tell me why my read on him in 1681 is wrong.
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Your case doses make sense however you aren’t looking at some other solid points.
1-He had an actual case on me and the only one that didn’t feel forced IMO
2-His overall town comes way more from a Town PoV then a Scum’s PoV.
Tone isn't a strong tell when there's an actual scum case that makes sense. No offense but it's not hard to make a good scum case on you. You're an easy target for scum right now
Cases not mean shit.
Tone and someone’s Mafia Rolecard does.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:45 am
by TrueSoulEnergy
I mean I suppose it depends on the case.
But usually it doesn’t find scum as well as Tone does.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:47 am
by unwnd
Doing a big stupid write up that nobody will read when i get home.
In post 2147, Raya36 wrote:I'm really torn on you TSE. I get the feeling that you're town with really bad reads but I can't possibly see how you read midway so strongly as town from a town perspective
My reads aren’t bad.
Their accurate.
Also you wonder why?
Because I’m not one of those stupid Town that fuckin push mislynches blindly.
In post 2146, Raya36 wrote:Your town read on midway just doesnt feel genuine. You say he's locktown to you but your only reasoning is he has a good scum case on you when half the game thinks you're scum too and tone. And I completely disagree with tone anyway. His tone is not suggesting town to me.
We can rig the order where TSE and Midway are the bottom two. I volunteer to be third in that setup. I think TSE might be town just terribly wrong.
If TSE is correct, a midway flip let's the group as a whole reset.
That’s what I’m saying.
I got to face it that sometimes people just will never understand when scum is pushing a mislynch like I do.
So as such I got to let the mislynch happen here so other people will look at things like I’m already looking at them as.
Okay so this was the last scum read abr stated. He also had a scum read on me, star and unwnd. (Star/unwnd scum reads were from the start) he complained about giving the chain leader to unwnd as he was sure unwnd was scum.
Tse scum read from unwnd seems to have disappeared relatively quickly considering how much abr and him were practically high fiving each other over that read.
Hmmmmmm
In post 2107, Raya36 wrote:Actually TSE, can you explain why Midway is lockdown to you? Tell me why my read on him in 1681 is wrong.
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Your case doses make sense however you aren’t looking at some other solid points.
1-He had an actual case on me and the only one that didn’t feel forced IMO
2-His overall town comes way more from a Town PoV then a Scum’s PoV.
Tone isn't a strong tell when there's an actual scum case that makes sense. No offense but it's not hard to make a good scum case on you. You're an easy target for scum right now
Cases not mean shit.
Tone and someone’s Mafia Rolecard does.
Ok but you don't know his role card do you?
And a case is always stronger than tone for me. Maybe a difference in opinion but I'm just really not seeing it
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:52 am
by Raya36
In post 2161, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I mean I suppose it depends on the case.
But usually it doesn’t find scum as well as Tone does.
I still disagree. Tone can be faked, tone can be personality, a good consistent tone regardless of alignment can come from experience.
A case uses actions, inconsistencies, partner analysis, interactions etc to find scum motivation in someone's play. Cases are much better than tone.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:54 am
by farside22
In post 2158, Raya36 wrote:Same question for farside. Was he town that game?
In post 2147, Raya36 wrote:I'm really torn on you TSE. I get the feeling that you're town with really bad reads but I can't possibly see how you read midway so strongly as town from a town perspective
My reads aren’t bad.
Their accurate.
Also you wonder why?
Because I’m not one of those stupid Town that fuckin push mislynches blindly.
Gee i winder why i scum read you.
Maybe i don't think your stupid.
Wow novel concept!
In post 2124, Starbuck wrote:He literally didn't understand why I would have talked with farside in the Quiz PT last night. I mean, come on.
ngl I don't think he is scum still... which probably says a lot about my willingness to town read people.
Idk he is just vibing and making enemies, hard pushing people at random the way scum just don't want to play lol.
I see that as no town motive.
He scum read unwnd and that
disappears out of the blue?
He holds a scum read with no visible reason on players.
I dont see anything more the trying to get by. I mean he claimed to be a great scum hunter and i dont see it.
Why no pivot after unwnd?
I think your read on him is bad. He looks like he gets to float by while you accept that.
I was scum reading abr. There was some weird things he did as i said. If i wanted a bottom 3 I'd like tse, mid, spring currently.
It didn’t disappear out of the blue.
Stop fuckin shading.
Based off of the events at EoD to SoD they are more likely Town then scum.
I also feel like your plan was to attack Unwnd to throw blame on me which would have been funny because I’d never kill a scum read as my first Night Kill as scum.
You think your smart but face it.
YOUR NOT
I am a great scum hunter. I found you.
Your just trying to get people to doubt their Town read on me because you really wanna mislynch me lol.
You try so desperately and we no let you win big bad scum.
I hear Math has doubts on his read on me.
Maybe start there Farside.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:55 am
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 2152, farside22 wrote:Well tse seems a little too confident in that mid town read. Maybe picketing mid if tse is scum
Lol your trying so hard to mislynch me it’s so obvious to me NGL.
Just wait till it’s obvious to others, then your buddy Starbuck will be spewed scum as well.
In post 2147, Raya36 wrote:I'm really torn on you TSE. I get the feeling that you're town with really bad reads but I can't possibly see how you read midway so strongly as town from a town perspective
My reads aren’t bad.
Their accurate.
Also you wonder why?
Because I’m not one of those stupid Town that fuckin push mislynches blindly.
Idk if you're grouping me into that or who you're referring to but I'm pushing midway because I think he's scum and I don't think he's a mislynch. I've stopped pushing ABR because I think he's a mislynch now
In post 2124, Starbuck wrote:He literally didn't understand why I would have talked with farside in the Quiz PT last night. I mean, come on.
ngl I don't think he is scum still... which probably says a lot about my willingness to town read people.
Idk he is just vibing and making enemies, hard pushing people at random the way scum just don't want to play lol.
I see that as no town motive.
He scum read unwnd and that
disappears out of the blue?
He holds a scum read with no visible reason on players.
I dont see anything more the trying to get by. I mean he claimed to be a great scum hunter and i dont see it.
Why no pivot after unwnd?
I think your read on him is bad. He looks like he gets to float by while you accept that.
I was scum reading abr. There was some weird things he did as i said. If i wanted a bottom 3 I'd like tse, mid, spring currently.
It didn’t disappear out of the blue.
Stop fuckin shading.
Based off of the events at EoD to SoD they are more likely Town then scum.
I also feel like your plan was to attack Unwnd to throw blame on me which would have been funny because I’d never kill a scum read as my first Night Kill as scum.
You think your smart but face it.
YOUR NOT
I am a great scum hunter. I found you.
Your just trying to get people to doubt their Town read on me because you really wanna mislynch me lol.
You try so desperately and we no let you win big bad scum.
I hear Math has doubts on his read on me.
Maybe start there Farside.
I didn't attack unwnd.
I voted unwnd to be the leader and stated in the quiz pt a town read on him.
Like nothing you stated actually happened.
In post 2146, Raya36 wrote:Your town read on midway just doesnt feel genuine. You say he's locktown to you but your only reasoning is he has a good scum case on you when half the game thinks you're scum too and tone. And I completely disagree with tone anyway. His tone is not suggesting town to me.
We can rig the order where TSE and Midway are the bottom two. I volunteer to be third in that setup. I think TSE might be town just terribly wrong.
If TSE is correct, a midway flip let's the group as a whole reset.
This is ok with me. I've been thinking so hard about how we can give TSE the chain but not Midway and it's just not possible. I don't trust TSE to not give it to Midway even if we get him to promise lol
We can't even let TSE be the 2nd last and have Midway in the bottom two because obviously whoever the other bottom 2 is will get lynched.
The final 2 at this point should
ALWAYS
be me and MidWayBear.
Titus saves me and gets MidWay.
This way you will all understand that scum are manipulating you as MidWay is a Mislynch.
Then Day 3 I’ll hard carry Town to a win if they will actually fuckin let me and follow my lead.
In post 2124, Starbuck wrote:He literally didn't understand why I would have talked with farside in the Quiz PT last night. I mean, come on.
ngl I don't think he is scum still... which probably says a lot about my willingness to town read people.
Idk he is just vibing and making enemies, hard pushing people at random the way scum just don't want to play lol.
I see that as no town motive.
He scum read unwnd and that
disappears out of the blue?
He holds a scum read with no visible reason on players.
I dont see anything more the trying to get by. I mean he claimed to be a great scum hunter and i dont see it.
Why no pivot after unwnd?
I think your read on him is bad. He looks like he gets to float by while you accept that.
I was scum reading abr. There was some weird things he did as i said. If i wanted a bottom 3 I'd like tse, mid, spring currently.
It didn’t disappear out of the blue.
Stop fuckin shading.
Based off of the events at EoD to SoD they are more likely Town then scum.
I also feel like your plan was to attack Unwnd to throw blame on me which would have been funny because I’d never kill a scum read as my first Night Kill as scum.
You think your smart but face it.
YOUR NOT
I am a great scum hunter. I found you.
Your just trying to get people to doubt their Town read on me because you really wanna mislynch me lol.
You try so desperately and we no let you win big bad scum.
I hear Math has doubts on his read on me.
Maybe start there Farside.
I didn't attack unwnd.
I voted unwnd to be the leader and stated in the quiz pt a town read on him.
Like nothing you stated actually happened.
Oh wait the last person with the chain doesn’t get chain leader?
The quiz team does?
