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In post 2147, Alisae wrote:idunno guys what do you think?

let's take best case
-Menal dies 7 alive
-Hop clears uncrowned or ABR (probably ABR because uncrowned would be more likely to vote me anyway based on their trajectory and waste the clear)
-you kill Pooky since you wanted to last night
D3 - 6 alive. Vote off other off say uncrowned then you kill me and abr
N3 - you kill Clidd because
MT/Kanna/you lelo doesn't always see you lethaled tbh

If Pooky dies its

Mena dies
Hopkirk dies
One of ABR/Uncrowned dies
One of {Kanna, Clidd} dies, probably Kanna
the other of {ABR/Uncrowned} dies and that ends the game and I win

IT WAS SO WINNABLE MAN

I don't get it

I don't get it at all man

why grief
i don't understand

if pooky dies i'd still have claimed there because pooky wasn't in my poe(s) so 2 people die next night and you lose one of the mislethals you're modelling i think?
d3- mena dies
n3 - ABR/Hop die
d4- Uncrowned dies
Leaves you in a 4p lelo of (you/Kanna/Clidd/MT), is that so much better for you? Realistically it just means you're in lelo with the person who's townie enough you wouldn't bring them to lelo instead of without them right?
although this is factoring out the two unclaimed town power roles

well factoring out one since we assumed pooky dies in this model

This game is basically Juliet tries to kill Romeo and their buddy Flava Leaf randomly fake-claims an impossible role :3

oh btw hopkirk why does your role exist in an already townsided setup

Like Ydra really wanted to just fuck over scum ig

3 scum vs 9 town with potentially 2 pairs of lovers isn't actually that townsided imo.

You and Mena just needed to coordinate better :3

Hopkirk has a role that clears another player

In post 1918, Menalque wrote:Hi kanna *waves*

*belated wave*

sorry, i went to a picnic. i'll read, i'll read

He gets to basically just deny scum an elim.
I don't think town should have any actual power in a setup like this but maybe that's just me but I also just don't think the setup is fun to play so.........

like worst case scenario

town mis-elims lovers

3:7

scum shoot a townie
hopkirk loverizes a townie

3:6

town misses again

3:5

scum kill hopkirk :

3:3 game over.

like it could've gone very badly for town :3

ig?

In post 2163, Kanna wrote:

In post 1918, Menalque wrote:Hi kanna *waves*

*belated wave*

sorry, i went to a picnic. i'll read, i'll read

Hello m'love

Alisae has conceded and claims Mena is eir scum-mate :3

like ig u have a point

Well we've heard Alisae big up Hopkirk and Flopz here, it's uncontroversial to say that Hectic is amazing, and everyone knows how terrifying Zaiden can be. They'd make a pretty good team 'team 'team' team' team, don't you think?

pedit - i don't think the setup is townsided without me. it's slightly scumsided without me since straight up 9-3 is perfectly balanced, you can kill if one of you/menal dies which is a big swing towards scum (9-3 night included is what 80%+ scum win), town lovers are -ve utility. You do need something like me to swing it back to town, otherwise your kill being there at all and especially being there every night after one scum dies is heavily scumsided. Like without me and without the kill at all this is either very lightly scumsided (depending on what the two unclaimed town prs are though here)

In post 2163, Kanna wrote:

In post 1918, Menalque wrote:Hi kanna *waves*

*belated wave*

sorry, i went to a picnic. i'll read, i'll read

and we buy the concession and are treating this as postgame now

you were clear to me after d2 hop

like you could've just responded to mena's joke with a joke about killing someone and really open-wolfed it up

Hai Uncrowned :3

oh wow. REALLY