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GROUP 1

bugspray (2):

OutWorldER, T3

not voting (4):

Tsutsu, Auro, mozamis, MathBlade,

GROUP 2

mozamis (1):

Flea the Magician

not voting (4):

mastina, bugspray, lendunistus, Gypyx

GROUP 3

not voting (2):

Vaxkiller, tris

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Going for someone in group 2 makes the most sense.

Why?

In post 2151, T3 wrote:Going for someone in group 2 makes the most sense.

Sorry, what game are you playing again?

We're hunting as a whole, with a bastard voting mechanic. Group 2 is just as viable as Group 1 and Group 3. The only issue is that Group 3 needs a stronger concensus.

I hate 2S2BS as a rule but ye gods.

can someone put all the claims and shit in one post? i can;'t keep track of what

In post 2095, mozamis wrote:I still find it hard to understand why a player of your calibre and experience basically said nothing about the whole Anya/Math tihng and left your vote doing nothing on Bugspray, and not pushing Bugspray at all.

In Anya v MathBlade, there was not much to say: MathBlade's play made him almost certainly town from it. Anya's play was also probably town, but due to the nature of the play, demanded a policy-elimination. I said both of these things yesterday and there was nothing more that needed to be said on the subject. I didn't push for a bugspray elimination yesterday because there wasn't much point--Anya was a policy elimination that I agreed with eliminating on policy alone. I thought her town, but there was a chance the play was scum and even if not, it is up to us as a community to punish the type of play Anya made to ensure scum never DO try it and hide behind the "town do this so I did it too" excuse, and the only punishment we can inflict is an elimination, to help teach players that that sort of play is not acceptable for good reason. The elimination was 100% going to be Anya yesterday. I couldn't push against it especially not when I agreed with the policy behind it.

However just because the elimination was guaranteed to be Anya doesn't mean that I can't continue to point out why bugspray is opportunistic-as-fuck scum who is coasting by.

I also have, without fail, voted him the entirety of the game. I've cast a grand total of one non-bugspray vote, on D1, and I immediately revoted bugspray less than 5 minutes later, so effectively, my vote has been on him the entire game, and will continue to be there until he flips, because bugspray is the BBMolla of this game. (Gypyx and MathBlade will get the reference. tris might, too.)

VOTE: bugspray.

In post 2036, MathBlade wrote:<3 Mastina

<3 MathBlade <3

In post 2047, MathBlade wrote:I think hybrid a50’s and Mastina’s reads from yesterday and this should be good.

The thought did cross my mind, but the only read of his I'm comfortable instantly and immediately sheeping without a deep delve into further nuances of the game is bugspray as scum. Further than that would require more review and thought.

In post 2060, Auro wrote:Very frustrating NK.

Says the person who very likely was the one who ordered it.

In post 2087, Auro wrote:I'm a combined _____ + Rolecop.

This claim is probably real.

It is also probably scum.

In post 2104, MathBlade wrote:Btw Auro scum stock through the roof atm.

Explicitly so, yes.

In post 2120, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2118, tris wrote:it's only n3

That makes more sense balance wise
*thinks*

I agree.
REGARDLESS OF TRIS'S ALIGNMENT, I am pretty sure this makes T3 town. Scum wouldn't fake a clear on scum in this contrived, convoluted way. And if town then the clear is probably a legit clear.

I can see a N3 messenger cop coexisting with a 2x tracker fairly easily here, and I believe the claim is more likely to come from town than from scum, even if it was slightly botched. (Also, tris didn't need to reveal herself to T3 if scum with the messenger role but did so anyway.)

With this in mind, this is where I'm at for an initial D4 readslist:
Gypyx
Randy Savage/MathBlade
T3
tris

Vaxkiller
mozamis

Noraa/Tsutsu
Flea the Magician


OutWorldER


lendunistus

Auro

bugspray

Role-wise basically conftown; setup mech-spec townreads; play-wise strong townreads; null; lean scum; scumread; very very very strongly scumread to the point of being as scum as scum can be without a cop guilty. (As in the only way bugspray could be more scum to me is with a cop guilty.)

Vax/T3/Auro/___ is the team

In post 2126, Auro wrote:Unopposed to mass-claim.

Given that I'm pretty sure the town knows more than the scum do right now, I however am opposed to the massclaim.

In post 2140, Auro wrote:Mastina is also someone likely to have killed all of {Momrangal, A50, Xtoxm}

The thing is, while in theory I would, in practice those three are not high priorities for me in this game. They are, however, high priorities for . Who here other than you would have the experience with all three and think all three are nightkill-worthy? You and I are literally the only two players who have that sort of repertoire with them as far as I know, and the difference between you and me is that while I can fairly definitively show why I wouldn't have them as a nightkill if I were scum and I can prove that I am conftown, you while I'm sure you can think of excuses for why you wouldn't nightkill them, actually would nightkill them and are not conftown.

bugspray uses they/them

In post 2155, mastina wrote:Gypyx and MathBlade will get the reference. tris might, too.)

Its like I wasn't even in that game *sigh* #stillsalty

Can;t remember if I declared here, doing it again(?) anyway.

Btw if you're having issues sheeping me on bugspray/Auro/lendunidis,

In post 1143, Xtoxm wrote:my feeling on moz at this point, while he's had bad takes, i cant not townread the effort to some degree. weak town more likely than scum. scum really doesnt have a need to tryhard in this lobby.

i find myself forced to give town credit to behavior like T3's which, although i feel is super easy to fake as scum, its ~something~ and it differentiates from a whole glob of players that have given me literal zero townpings.

In post 1133, Auro wrote:VOTE: Vax

disappointing contribution from you today. i offered you agency through my vote and you made no effort to talk to me. fos auro. im not able to build/push a new wagon at this time, so i'll join the one i feel moist likely to flip scum.

VOTE: bugspray

still would prefer bug, i think.

In post 1151, Xtoxm wrote:

In post 1144, Flea The Magician wrote:I disagree on our Moz read, hes the biggest shover of the whole "large games are bastard!" thing.

i mean, i could be. he's at least presenting as trying to solve, though. if moz is scum, there's a bunch of town that needs to step up and show us. i did a little meta looking at moz, in deciding where to vote, and concluded he likely has a slight trend of posting more as town than scum, but he does do the spamming thing regardless of align.

In post 1144, Flea The Magician wrote:Bugspray hasn;t really stood out beyond what I pointed initially and that they're super into this game, which honestly I'm just assuming means they're not overgamed for once

players that blend into the background are often scum IME :p

In post 1425, Xtoxm wrote:randy/bug/lend
^ two wolves and one town that cant be bothered to play

In post 1444, Xtoxm wrote:

In post 1431, Auro wrote:Xtoxm, who do you have strong townreads on, and why?

i'm not giving you a road map of night kills
fuck off scum

In post 1512, Xtoxm wrote:auro is lockscum

Pretend you're sheeping Xtoxm instead as those three were his main suspects.

You can also pretend to be sheeping Almost50, albeit less so:

In post 1645, Almost50 wrote:Second assumption was: G1 on D2 (of 13 slots) was composed as a 13 players Normal setup. i.e. 10:3. This meant only 1 Scum on Auro/tris/Anya/OutWolrdER
1 Scum in lend/Out,

with lend esyablished as Town

(and flowtrap flipping Town) = Out is SCUM.
mastina/

bugs

/Randy

containing 1 Scum

, and

bugs

was the one voting flow trap at the end of D1. Granted that didn't even count, but he was also voting momrangel before, so

I picked him for the Scum in that group

. That makes mastina/Randy Town AND Moz as well (as bugs is tunneling Moz iirc). Moz Town makes Vax Scum.

In post 1636, Almost50 wrote:

In post 1620, mozamis wrote:Scum in:

Actually it's bugs/T3/Vax/OutWorldER, but thanks for considering me.

Almost50 can't be entirely right, here, but it's quite possible he was in the right area--he thought bugspray was scum, and other candidates were {Vaxkiller, OutWorlder, Auro, lendunidis} albeit him assuming lendunidis was town and also assuming Auro is town. (Like I said, Almost50 can't be entirely right so his process couldn't be perfectly on-point. Especially with a T3 cop inno result.)

In post 2158, schadd_ wrote:bugspray uses they/them

I knew that, I don't know why I typed he/him there to refer to them. (I legit don't know how that happened.)

i am the most misgendered user on the site

In post 2142, Flea The Magician wrote:

In post 2119, mozamis wrote:

In post 2026, lendunistus wrote:9 hours and 40 minutes late but hey, at least it happened

VOTE: Anya

So I assume we are gonna let this scumfck lurk his way to victory?
Pathetic hammer.

Ye gods have mercy on my poor soul...

VOTE: Mozamies

I ain't dropping this today, sorry.

I am kinda feeling a Moz or an Auro elim.

What do you make of this Mastina? I think you townread Moz. Can you help me with why?

In post 2163, bugspray wrote:i am the most misgendered user on the site

it's wild how much it happens.

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VOTE: auro baa

my brain is operating on limited capacity right now

In post 2163, bugspray wrote:i am the most misgendered user on the site

I am guilty of misgendering them too.

I will read Mastina’s case in a bit.

Something is fishy but need time to evaluate.

VOTE: Auro

@Mastina can we do where we agree on Auro?

I get what you’re saying on Bugspray but if you die then I can carry it on and if you don’t die then you can do win win.

It’s possible bug is town but Moz and Auro are imho more likely.

At this point buspray isn't actually adressing the concerns laid out.

I'm feeling the Auro lim, not so mch for moz.

In post 2156, Noraa wrote:Vax/T3/Auro/___ is the team

I could see the blank being bugspray.

This seems viable.

In post 2157, mastina wrote:The thing is, while in theory I would, in practice those three are not high priorities for me in this game. They are, however, high priorities for you. Who here other than you would have the experience with all three and think all three are nightkill-worthy?

They're definitely NK-worthy, but killing them makes the game super boring, so bleh

In post 2172, Auro wrote:

In post 2157, mastina wrote:The thing is, while in theory I would, in practice those three are not high priorities for me in this game. They are, however, high priorities for you. Who here other than you would have the experience with all three and think all three are nightkill-worthy?

They're definitely NK-worthy, but killing them makes the game super boring, so bleh

Why didn’t you answer my question?

Why haven’t you rolecopped Mastina if you suspect her?

And if you have and still do why aren’t you saying she’s scum for lying?