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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:47 am
by MathBlade
In post 2149, Save The Dragons wrote:obv = obvious. here's the definition

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obvious

if town votes on a town, the dead person wasn't obviously town.

you may think it was obvious they were town. but that does not make them obviously town. you are conflating the two.

end.

of.

discussion.

thank you for coming to my ted talk

there will be no questions

because the discussion is over.

and i will be ignoring people more than i have been if they decide to argue with me
?? Not sure how this is relevant.

I am talking Andante is almost certainly lock town and should be sheeped unless you can provide a better case.
If Andante said to elim me then I would still be the smart elim unless it was like clear Andante was on moonlogic and no way for me to be scum. I am not scum and it would be a bad elim I just don’t get why this came up.

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:48 am
by Save The Dragons
i said no questions!

(flea parroted koba in saying T3 was obvtown while i was sick it's kind of a delayed response to that but mostly i'm just grumpy from being sick)

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:51 am
by Andante
In post 2150, MathBlade wrote:unless it was like clear Andante was on moonlogic
ok soooooo I wouldn't sheep me... my reads are normally bad. My TRs are usually fine, but SRs are not always scum....

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:57 am
by flow trap
In post 2152, Andante wrote:
In post 2150, MathBlade wrote:unless it was like clear Andante was on moonlogic
ok soooooo I wouldn't sheep me... my reads are normally bad. My TRs are usually fine, but SRs are not always scum....
Same

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:59 am
by Andante
In post 2153, flow trap wrote:
In post 2152, Andante wrote:
In post 2150, MathBlade wrote:unless it was like clear Andante was on moonlogic
ok soooooo I wouldn't sheep me... my reads are normally bad. My TRs are usually fine, but SRs are not always scum....
Same
are you on moonlogic too?

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 8:07 am
by flow trap
Like 109+234=239?

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 8:40 am
by Andante
exactly like that!

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:25 am
by VFP
Andante, it's time to vote!

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:42 am
by Andante
who are we voting?

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:43 am
by Andante
YOOOOO WE HAVE 1 DAY LEFT
In post 2100, Raya36 wrote:
Official Vote Count 2.09
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EliminationWith 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate someone.

Yessiree
(4): NDMath, Robert M Hunter, Save The Dragons, Flea the Magician
NDMath
(4): DkKoba, VFP, flow trap, Andante
Almost50
(1): MathBlade
Save The Dragons
(1): Yessiree

Not Voting
(1): Almost50

Deadline:
(expired on 2021-05-05 21:15:00).


Mod notes:
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:43 am
by Andante
it's like actually time to vote!!!

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:44 am
by Andante
uhhh I guess I'm good with a yesiree vote

VOTE: yessiree

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:45 am
by Andante
Almost50 can go tomorrow

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:04 am
by DkKoba
In post 2162, Andante wrote:Almost50 can go tomorrow
oh?

on god?

what happened huh?

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:14 am
by VFP
I would hammer if I wasn't confident of Yessiree town (or possibly my scum buddy)

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:16 am
by DkKoba
if yesiree flips town im unclearing andante and believing more that flow is the one who got desperado'd bc NM played against scum flow recently and we were scumreading him here too

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:27 am
by VFP
In post 2165, DkKoba wrote:if yesiree flips town im unclearing andante and believing more that flow is the one who got desperado'd bc NM played against scum flow recently and we were scumreading him here too
Nah Andante is town and will be the scum kill tonight.

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:37 am
by DkKoba
In post 2166, VFP wrote:
In post 2165, DkKoba wrote:if yesiree flips town im unclearing andante and believing more that flow is the one who got desperado'd bc NM played against scum flow recently and we were scumreading him here too
Nah Andante is town and will be the scum kill tonight.

if andante dies tonight i will retract that but i just cant vibe with how they are playing here.

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:50 am
by NDMath
In post 2145, MathBlade wrote:Exactly. A50 is a much better elim even in the worse case we are wrong.

Andante gets his elim as lock town.

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Then if scum kill say flow for example to prevent him confirming himself we keep a prob lock town in Adante for the next day.

But if scum kill Adante and flow doesn’t confirm himself then two days no confirm suspicion goes really high.

This also enables PRs to do what they need unimpeded.

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If we elim ND or yes we are conceding control away from the town block which is not how town blocks work which means one if not both of ND/yes are likely town.
This logic is wonky. (I inserted dashes.) The middle part is completely unrelated to the argument of the post. The actual logic is just 'A50 is the best elim because Andante, the most conf player of the townblock, chose it'. This is flawed since it assumes she has above average reads. It should be considered of course but it shouldn't be automatic elim that scumread.

I also don't think the wagon can be on scum when it's essentially my-wagon+Dragons // the same group of people following Blade's vote.

DkKoba wrote:if yesiree flips town im unclearing andante and believing more that flow is the one who got desperado'd bc NM played against scum flow recently and we were scumreading him here too
I don't see anything in N_M's iso indicating he was scumreading Flow?


It's 5 votes A50 to 4 votes yes. The people not voting a wagon are A50 and yes.
idk what this means in terms of vca.

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:51 am
by DkKoba
In post 2133, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: A50
dunno how to feel about this vote :/

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:58 am
by Raya36
Prodding yessiree and Flea The Magician

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:03 pm
by Save The Dragons
In post 2169, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2133, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: A50
dunno how to feel about this vote :/
town :thumbsupemoji:

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:27 pm
by Almost50
I see I'm at E-1. I am a PR. X-shot something with a Novice modifier. If that's not enough I am willing to full claim (although that might not be ideal because it could be manipulated by Scum).

I was just trying to keep myself a suspect to avoid being NK'd.

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:34 pm
by Save The Dragons
um.

well.

why do you have a novice modifier lol i don't see that in the set up am i blind?

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:38 pm
by Andante
In post 2173, Save The Dragons wrote:why do you have a novice modifier lol i don't see that in the set up am i blind?

I don't see that, and I also don't see A50 at e-1...