It was more aimed towards Cabd with you on the side, really
But I didn't want to entirely speak on Cabd only, I respect your wishes to be Medea
I also want to read you that way as well
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:59 am
by Snarky Fishes
*ahem*
I crushed the emotional response I had. It’s not wrong to challenge us just because I think we’re both very anxious about Medea whether to kill them or not. Whether all that they’ve done and not done adds up to scum. If there aren’t more probable scum out there. That we should just be killing instead. We’re just weighing a lot. I gotta go to my second meeting now. Bbl.
-bell.
In post 2146, Snarky Fishes wrote:This looks like you're ignoring the last 10 or so hours worth of data to continue beating your drum.
I read a good chunk of what I missed before I posted that
You think that low of me?
I don't know what to think of you.
I'm tired of trying to work with you in good faith and getting slapped with a trout for it.
What do you want out of me specifically? Seems like you both townread me but are agitated by my behavior
I don't really think I'm trying to showboat, get on a pedastal, whatever. I really wish you would do without that just because sometimes I make big strides. It's not made out of trying to be that way either, sometimes games just happen that way with me.
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:04 pm
by Snarky Fishes
We’re also weighing the votes on them and their motivations and that also gives me pause. Personally.
The players I might trust or weigh their opinions on them more heavily are the players that have reasons to kill medea and have very good scum games themselves.
While the players that I consider obvious town are largely side stepping medea. Rn.
In post 2146, Snarky Fishes wrote:This looks like you're ignoring the last 10 or so hours worth of data to continue beating your drum.
I read a good chunk of what I missed before I posted that
You think that low of me?
I don't know what to think of you.
I'm tired of trying to work with you in good faith and getting slapped with a trout for it.
What do you want out of me specifically? Seems like you both townread me but are agitated by my behavior[/nothing]
I don't really think I'm trying to showboat, get on a pedastal, whatever. I really wish you would do without that just because sometimes I make big strides. It's not made out of trying to be that way either, sometimes games just happen that way with me.
your playstyle, or how you're chosing to play ~this~ game has come at a cost.
I'm stepping back from interacting so much with you, and this will probably be my final protest.
In post 2146, Snarky Fishes wrote:This looks like you're ignoring the last 10 or so hours worth of data to continue beating your drum.
I read a good chunk of what I missed before I posted that
You think that low of me?
I don't know what to think of you.
I'm tired of trying to work with you in good faith and getting slapped with a trout for it.
What do you want out of me specifically?
Nothing.
Seems like you both townread me but are agitated by my behavior
this is accurate.
I don't really think I'm trying to showboat, get on a pedastal, whatever. I really wish you would do without that just because sometimes I make big strides. It's not made out of trying to be that way either, sometimes games just happen that way with me.
your playstyle, or how you're chosing to play ~this~ game has come at a cost.
I'm stepping back from interacting so much with you, and this will probably be my final protest.
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:11 pm
by unwnd
In post 2153, Snarky Fishes wrote:We’re also weighing the votes on them and their motivations and that also gives me pause. Personally.
The players I might trust or weigh their opinions on them more heavily are the players that have reasons to kill medea and have very good scum games themselves.
While the players that I consider obvious town are largely side stepping medea. Rn.
-bell.
Extrapolate this point a bit harder for me
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:16 pm
by Spiffeh
Spoiler: Pages 11-20 Thoughts
- I liked PA's 270 tonally but 287 feels like an overreaction to me. A simple "that was a PA post not a Cabd post" would have sufficed. And since I know this becomes more of a thing later on with Cabd jumping in about the Penguin erasure, they made it messier than it had to be. I don't doubt Penguin's feelings about being put on the back burner but they were maybe highlighted more than they should have been to increase Medea's thread presence during a time when they were vulnerable.
- Nothing else major but I like Lukewarm better than I remember liking him, I get more where he's coming from with the Medea suspicion. Still not seeing where Sleez/unwnd was coming from there (although not sure if that's worth mentioning anymore since I'm hard townreading unwnd currently)
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:16 pm
by Spiffeh
I didn't really need to spoiler that did I
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:17 pm
by Snarky Fishes
Sure. LLD died to cabd recently and they have expressed a desire to kill them and they have expressed the idea of killing players for non-alignment reasons. Since rhea is playing this game i’m not entirely sure how to weigh their analysis. Their argument appears to be that medea started out with a fall back plan in mind. They said as much initially that they were giving us meat on their role instead of other information for us to generate a town read on them(?)
Pooky is hard to read for me. I find his read accuracy as town pretty good. But he also keeps going back and forth on medea and their reasoning is somewhat unclear. Which isn’t that rare for them. But it makes it difficult for me to sheep.
-Bell.
Okay, now my meeting has actually started so I’m out. Ta ta for now.
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:20 pm
by Lukewarm
Half of all conversations between Snarky Fishes / Medea / Unwnd make my eyes glaze over and make the game less enjoyable. For me at least.
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:21 pm
by Snarky Fishes
Personally, if I was impulsive I would have tunneled on medea already for not having a snap read. Correct meta read or not. PA or not. But that’s like saying if I I had half of who I am missing I would do x instead of y. The ability to terminate or consider, weigh and then suspend a decision is part of me too.
-bell
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:22 pm
by Snarky Fishes
In post 2160, Lukewarm wrote:Half of all conversations between Snarky Fishes / Medea / Unwnd make my eyes glaze over and make the game less enjoyable. For me at least.
In post 2160, Lukewarm wrote:Half of all conversations between Snarky Fishes / Medea / Unwnd make my eyes glaze over and make the game less enjoyable. For me at least.
you're in luck.
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:26 pm
by unwnd
I'm not petty enough to keep dragging the point on
At least I can say I accomplished something this game
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:08 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 2135, Lukewarm wrote:If you are not here currently for the song and dance 20 questions version, I will spell it out for when ever you come back.
Did you figure it out before or after you wrote 2013?
If you figured it out AFTER you wrote 2013, can you explain this part of your plan to me in a way that makes sense if you think everyone needs 1 shard?
, they are suggesting they want me in the elimination pool which indirectly suggests I am town.
The only move for them is to argue that I am not an FN to try and eliminate me before I get enough shards to become a demon. It forces them to tunnel me.
If they do decide to demon me
and then roleblock me, then that's resources that aren't spent on our investigates which means they get shots off. Plus, they'd risk being tracked and or watched as I'd be an ideal target for such investigations if they occurred.
If you figured it out BEFORE 2013, why did you fake figuring it out later?
The default number. I have none now. I need to check the ruleset.
The sample mafia role PM has two shards to be demonic. Supposing town need the same amount of shards, two. Verifying with the mod.
Wanted to put this on the current page for Titus
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:22 pm
by Titus
@Lukewarm, I'm not sure when I figured it out. I was confused and probably thinking both simultaneously until Annie quoted the mod for me. There's no way I can know the exact post when I was first told. The mod got back to me right as Annie posted.
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:23 pm
by Titus
@Lukewarm, What do you think of the reactions to my gambit?
Titus, I think that this is LLD's most recent reads list.
I am just now noticing that you were left out lol
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:31 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 2167, Titus wrote:@Lukewarm, I'm not sure when I figured it out. I was confused and probably thinking both simultaneously until Annie quoted the mod for me. There's no way I can know the exact post when I was first told. The mod got back to me right as Annie posted.
This is a very, very unsatisfactory answer. And 2013 still makes no sense to me if you thought that you only needed 1 shard.......
I also feel like this is a strange tone you are taking when having the conversation with me, when you most recent posts have me as scum. Like you have kind of been championing it.
I am trying to figure you out. Do you think that this is scum!luke latching on to something?
I don't know. I feel like I expected either a very well put together response, OR omgus. and I got neither. Am confused
And I kinda hate to say that because it's some of his only serious posting and I don't want to discourage that from him. But the point about Titus being more assertive with wanting the shard is not a good one. Especially since Titus explicitly stated she'd want the shard later on and not immediately, so why is it an issue that she hasn't brought it up again today?
I think back to WH13 where he had Cakez dead to rights and absolutely eviscerated him with a huge wallpost because people weren't really considering it. Comparing that effort to here might be a little unfair because it's still early and he probably wasn't nearly as confident in the Titus scum read as he was in the Cakez read in WH13, but breaking the troll-persona to make an underwhelming point about Titus and build on her growing wagon feels off to me.
I'm very interested in Ceph and Cabd's takes specifically on Pooky at this moment as fellow Tenet scumteam alumni.
And Rhea! What do you think of Pooky?
Town?
Scum?
Null?
I also asked some questions about your scum read (?) on me if you can look back and answer those.
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:36 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 2168, Titus wrote:@Lukewarm, What do you think of the reactions to my gambit?
I don't fucking know.
I understand why most people defaulted to scum wouldn't claim friendly neighbor, that was my first thought too. But I don't understand why no one else seemed interested in the discrepancies you showed.
I am also not sure how your gambit was supposed to catch scum, but I also know that not understanding you is just a Titus thing.
I felt like pooky's vote on you was weird in 1962, with a stark change in tone and like the way that he was approaching the game.
So, all in all, the last couple pages are confusing
In post 2168, Titus wrote:@Lukewarm, What do you think of the reactions to my gambit?
I don't fucking know.
I understand why most people defaulted to scum wouldn't claim friendly neighbor, that was my first thought too. But I don't understand why no one else seemed interested in the discrepancies you showed.
I am also not sure how your gambit was supposed to catch scum, but I also know that not understanding you is just a Titus thing.
I felt like pooky's vote on you was weird in 1962, with a stark change in tone and like the way that he was approaching the game.
So, all in all, the last couple pages are confusing
This post is very fence sitty...
I would say that both you and pooky are people that have kind of been sitting out side of where I have been really looking at this game, and that last couple pages felt like a giant reminder that the two of you were even here.
I need to put more brain power towards both of you.