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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:39 pm
by Faker
Alright the game died enough for me to finish writing and submit all of my applications, you all did your part, now please come back and play mafia

Now I just wait to collect rejection letters

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:13 pm
by skitter30
ok so like we have a day and a half and the leading wagon has 3 votes ...

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:15 pm
by Datisi
maybe it's gonna be like that old pyp game where we did nothing for the whole day then in the last 3 hours we scrambled and flipped scum

two days in a row

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:18 pm
by Faker
VOTE: Sleepless

Very open to moving, but let's start the scramble.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:19 pm
by skitter30
maybe
i'm not feeling super optimistic

VOTE: flow

wanna see if this will do anything, again noting:

- it's bizarre that i can't get the sleepless wagon to have more than 2 votes
- i think sleepless and pooky are aligned
- i will vote any of: sleepless, flow, catboi, pooky, nsg to get an ending day wagon, and will do ss/sircakez if i have to but don't want to. midway i'd vote too but am not confident at all that will flip scum either, and i don't really think that's a winning wagon

pedit oh nice
well i'm happy either way

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:20 pm
by Datisi
VOTE: flow

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:22 pm
by Faker
???????????????????????????????????????????????

skitter I am down but WHAT

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:23 pm
by Faker
Oh okay there's a P-Edit there, now this makes sense

VOTE: flow

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:24 pm
by skitter30
i can switch back, like i said i'm happy either way at this point but i don't think sleepless is getting more than 3 votes

(which, for the sixth time, is bizarre)

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:26 pm
by Faker
In post 2154, skitter30 wrote:- i think sleepless and pooky are aligned
Have you talked about this before? I'm really wary of statements like this essentially as a rule but am happy to entertain it.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:38 pm
by skitter30
i have, but in short:

one of the few times pooky had game-related content this game was shortly after i voted sleepless, wherein he made frankly bizarre insinuations that i was scum with midway and was somewhat manipulative in trying to get me to vote midway to assuage those concerns

his concerns did not make sense to me, and i really can't imagine why he was trying to get me to vote midway other than that he didn't like my current vote

i had to leave in middle of this convo but tried to restart it a few times and didn't have much success so yeah from my pov i'm still thinking this

also sleepless, in his most recent readslist, has an ineffectual 'i think town' read on pooky

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:55 pm
by flow trap
hi

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:02 pm
by Faker
Yo, who do you want to vote and why?

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:04 pm
by midwaybear
VOTE: SS
I'm unvoting skitter because I think she would push me as scum here since I'm a high number. I will look at flow too, but I townread him earlier.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:05 pm
by flow trap
In post 2162, Faker wrote:Yo, who do you want to vote and why?
Anda cause bus
Lemme finish catching up

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:11 pm
by skitter30
oh this is cool

also again i don't have the draft memorized and i didn't know you were in the third position until about 12 seconds ago when i went to go look at the draft

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:47 pm
by Andante
i know deadline is soon, i’ll at least make an effort to skim stuff tomorrow and probably change my vote
felt terrible today, just been sleeping most of the day, about to sleep some more ._.
I trust that yall can carry us though :) See yall before eod!!

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:54 pm
by skitter30
Feel better <3

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:01 pm
by innocentvillager
skimmed sleepless and flow isos

conflicted on both slots

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:04 pm
by innocentvillager
flow seems a little too relaxed honestly. i think he's an easy LHF push with the memeing to content ratio and i don't think he's doing that to get cred because it doesn't really look that good. i believe both nsg and flow when they say flow is more jokey and relaxed as town. it seems he's been struggling for content this game which is in a vacuum scum indicative for a player on hiatus, but he also feels an internal pressure to contribute as evidence by his one brutally honest quote.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:07 pm
by innocentvillager
i reread the early towncase on me and it's mostly bizarre because i think he literally misinterpreted like half the quotes meaning-wise he townread me for, but i can kind of see why as town he'd tl me for that if he thinks relaxedness/jokeyness is a town!indicative for himself which he has said.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:07 pm
by innocentvillager
skitter can you talk more about your midway read and why you're so unwilling to vote there despite you having mild suspicion there? you also said something about the wagon?

quoting past stuff you've said is fine too

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:12 pm
by innocentvillager
like sure it's totally possible flow is just trying to emulate his town meta without much further thought to it and calling me town early for being jokey and memey alludes to the fact that he is trying to tie himself to me and get similarly townread. there's something off about him while i was reading his iso idk i know that sounds like scummy but like the timing/things he chose to comment on felt obvious or like he misinterpreted them. i don't really know what im saying but there was a weird vibe i got sometimes reading the iso. it felt like someone trying to keep up with the game and meme and joke around and force contribution but not really that comfortable. which does sound scummy, idk. idk there were still parts im not really vibing on this push. im not sure what im saying and ill probably just stop

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:15 pm
by innocentvillager
In post 1938, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1816, innocentvillager wrote:tiger wanna vote midwaybear together with me?
fool me twice...
In post 1844, innocentvillager wrote:VOTE: midwaybear

i still really don't want to kill the best town player on d1 (yes that is a real thought i have as town too) but ya idk what my tiger read is anymore
bruh
im not really sure why you had either of these reactions
In post 2163, midwaybear wrote:VOTE: SS
I'm unvoting skitter because I think she would push me as scum here since I'm a high number. I will look at flow too, but I townread him earlier.
what's the point of this vote with no time to deadline, clearly not much support for this wagon, and you're not even going to try and push him?

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:24 pm
by innocentvillager
on sleepless

the first time i read the wall a while i thought it was p null; which is like usually how the walls are i guess. the second time i read it i felt like the thoughts seemed like they were coming from some sort of actual headspace and seemed ok. it seemed like a wallpost that was actually a display of his thoughts rather than a comprehensive view of the gamestate which i think feels like a towny trait. like it looks good but it doesn't feel like the intent was to make the wall look good which is mildly +town.

past his infamous wall im just getting more vibes that he's just trying to get out thoughts. yes it could be scum struggling for content and there's zero agenda and that he's just going posture posture posture. but that's actually not at all what it feels like, it feels like he's taking stances in some areas and just giving out thoughts in others. overall my picture of SA is that there's no agenda here (+town but definitely not locktown), prioritizing getting clear and concise thoughts out, and it seems that his headspace is all coming from a plausible area. that's enough for me to not really want to vote the slot for d1 although i could maybe be convinced otherwise.

also @sleepless if you think town!me isn't this memey/relaxed go skim my opening in Team Mafia 2021 Large Normal Wikipedia Integers and see if you thinking that feels memey and nervous like yu think i am here. i feel like it's similar but it's not really awkward-nervous energy - in both cases i was excited. i was excited for this game because i wanted to fucking play the game after 5 days waiting for thread to open while scum got to actually collaborate during this time. i was excited that game too for a similar reason - there was a lot of hype surrounding the event and picking teams and lot of waiting around with our role PMs and shit.