I know that I've toned down the obv!town a bit for *reasons*, but I'm far from the worst offender this game, and *reasons*.
To this point I had some qualms with your play and how you were handling yourself given what you had talked about of your *reasons* on day 1.
This post was like literally the only thing I could hear from you that wouldn't make me take a spiky dildo and ram it so far up your ass that it came out your mouth covered in blood and intestines~ (explicit, see~).
When I said specifics I more meant you being explicit about what you thought I meant by *reasons*.
You know I don't explain townreads. This is all you're getting from me, and you're lucky to get it.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 3:09 pm
by Lost Butterfly
Nero Cain
, Plum, Nobody Special
Untrod Tripod - (2)
Venmar, Lady Lambdadelta
Not voting - (3):
Flipping Awesome, Shadoweh, Zdenek
With
13
alive it takes
7
to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:
27th of May at 9:00pm
Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-05-27 16:00:00)
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Venmar will be lynched with 6 votes this day phase.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:03 pm
by Zdenek
In post 2173, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Plus, if I was only interested in making it easier to look town, I'd not have claimed I took no action both nights.
And risked being counter-claimed by someone who's action went through?
I don't think so.
So what's the deal with the UT backtracking on Sixty thing?
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 10:10 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 570, Untrod Tripod wrote:I'm pretty sure Sixty is professionally derpy. like, if there was a professional derping league they'd be 3 time league champions. and also I'm starting to rethink my Tim read.
In post 714, Sixty wrote:Untrod Tripod - Zdenek and Katsuki defenses are nice but not enough to give a Town read. Votes are bad all the way down - even the Tim Howard vote because of the "good cop bad cop" explanation (see post 415). The discrediting of our slot in particular is actively anti-Town (neither pro-Town nor alignment-unrelated like generic complaining).
I'm just trying to get people off of dumb votes on a really good and protown slot and an easy mislynch. I've watched Zed laser through scumteams and not be taken seriously and I really want to give him the opportunity to shine here. I'm big on the Zed right now. And also I've been burned before with Kats and I'm not letting it happen again.
Also, I'm really not trying to discredit your slot, I just want to gently suggest that maybe you stop with the weird furry roleplaying because it makes your posts really hard to read and/or take seriously. You're both *really* good mafia players and it'd be good if you were posting like the intelligent people you are?
And I keep opening the thread and then closing it again because Shadoweh's ridiculous histrionics make me just want to die inside. Shadoweh I'm begging you: I've played games with you and you're a GREAT player when you're not flipping the fuck out like this. Please take a chill pill and help us hunt scum. I'd bet my bottom boondollar that scum are trying to make you a nonfactor by needling you out of the game.
__________
Okay now that my personal lovefest is over, can we PLEASE get down to business and lynch Venmar? Dude's not even trying to look town.
In post 740, Sixty wrote:For instance, if he thought either of the puppyhalves were *really* good at Mafia he wouldn't be keeping his vote on Venmar because ______.
I can disagree with people I respect. In this case I do.
Here's the change in Tone, Zdenek.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 3:54 am
by Untrod Tripod
hey look at those posts you tried to sweep under the rug that came right after that!
In post 754, Untrod Tripod wrote:just fyi since that game is over I just got done with a game that was INCREDIBLY acerbic and it really bummed me out so I'm making a concerted effort to be more positive this game towards people
In post 756, Untrod Tripod wrote:and I know I said some rude stuff about you earlier Sixty, and I'm sorry about that it won't happen again
it's almost like I made a concerted effort to change my tone because I felt like a jerk! how about that shit?!
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:13 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
it's convenient that those posts came after the fact. I'm certain you felt bad, but surely you used it as an opportunity to gain another ally you could manipulate?
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:13 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
it's convenient that those posts came after the fact. I'm certain you felt bad, but surely you used it as an opportunity to gain another ally you could manipulate?
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:16 am
by Untrod Tripod
uh, yeah, either that or I like Tierce and Vi as people and felt bad that I was being a dick?
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:17 am
by Untrod Tripod
it's not "convenient" that an apology came after the act that caused guilt, that's just literally how cause and effect works.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:50 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
Then why wasn't it all at once, instead of progressive, like an after thought?
I don't contest that you truly felt bad about saying those terrible terrible things about them, but certainly there's more to it than just that.
You used the situation to enhance your standing, how clever~.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:57 am
by Untrod Tripod
what the fuck?
the game I was referring to ended right before the apology posts, which were made because as I was reflecting on the game and how many people were upset during and after it I thought "wow, I should really try to be less of a dick because that game took a toll on me and the other people in the game"
like this is some malarkey you're trying to pull right now
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:59 am
by Untrod Tripod
and it's really incredibly obnoxious that you're trying to spin me trying to be a better person into some kind of scum tactic
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:36 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
I'm not spinning anything or denying any feeling of regret for what you said that you may have had.
All I'm saying is that you definitely changed your tone towards them from one of attempting to paint them as unreliable and stupid, to one of immense respect and appealing to them.
See, you're the one who is trying to make this personal and about the (really quite dreadful) comments you made to them. I honestly don't care WHAT you said. The tonality was there.
tl;dr You probably felt bad as an after thought, but that doesn't change that you changed your tone towards them with a motive outside of your emotions.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:41 am
by Untrod Tripod
In post 2187, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:but that doesn't change that you changed your tone towards them with a motive outside of your emotions.
well I didn't, so
since you're committed to being wrong I guess I'm done here
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:43 am
by Untrod Tripod
the insults were on the 17th-19th
the game in question ended on the 19th
the apology and change in tone came on the 20th
that's just cause and effect, not me having some grand emotionally manipulative plan
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:45 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
So wait your goal was to come in, accuse me of something despicable (honestly, if you really think that I would try and acccuse anyone of using an apology like that as a ploy, you must have an extremely low opinion of me.) and then walk away? And you're calling ME obnoxious.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:48 am
by Untrod Tripod
I'm sorry, if you're not accusing me of it being a ploy then I'm not really sure what we're arguing about?
that's just cause and effect, not me having some grand emotionally manipulative plan
Once again, for the last time, this has nothing to do with anything emotionally attached between you and Sixty.
This is about your discrediting of Sixty's reads and ability to play this game early in the day, and then a reversal of this opinion not very long after in the same day. Not about that other game, not about your "dog fursona" comments. Not. Emotional.
It's about "oh hey you're a VI, your reads are terrible" to "oh hey you're a player I respect fix your reads"
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:53 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
Like should I be offended somehow? That you think I would attempt to use something deeply personal and important to you as a weapon against you?
Do you think I'm some kind of fucking monster? This is totally out of the context of this game, UT. Am I really that kind of scum in your eyes?
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:57 am
by Untrod Tripod
I thought I was pretty clear that I think they're both good players and it was weird to me that their hydra wasn't playing well?
Do you think I'm some kind of fucking monster? This is totally out of the context of this game, UT. Am I really that kind of scum in your eyes?
no? I'm just responding to what you're writing as I'm reading it.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 6:02 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2194, Untrod Tripod wrote:I thought I was pretty clear that I think they're both good players and it was weird to me that their hydra wasn't playing well?
Do you think I'm some kind of fucking monster? This is totally out of the context of this game, UT. Am I really that kind of scum in your eyes?
no? I'm just responding to what you're writing as I'm reading it.
The change in tone from point A to point B was weird enough to draw my attention. It's not my biggest point against you but nor is it trivial.
If you're responding to what I'm writing it would be pretty damn clear to you I'm not doing what you're accusing me of.
But whatever, wasting my breath.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 8:40 am
by Zdenek
UT how did you not know how your behaviour affected people in The Reckoning before the game ended?
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:38 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
answering other people's questions and all, but he probably wasn't talking about it due to ongoing games?
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:15 am
by Zdenek
Why do you think that is relevant to my question?
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:24 am
by Zdenek
I am confused at Plum not commenting on LLD's UT case.