↑Albert B. Rampage wrote:Nacho, why did you originally continue your Eddie scumread onto pirate? I've only learned this now, but doesn't she much prefer playing town? Why would she replace into a scum slot, especially if you were town in the game? Shouldn't that have given you pause?
The possibility existed that it would be a WIFOM move. There existed a possibility that she replaced into the slot to eat the lynch for Eddie since she was the reason he was getting lynched at the time.
Why are you throwing doubt on her when you said she was town now? Are you trying to keep her from joining the town block? As far as I know, my logic for thinking she replaced into a town slot beats your logic of saying she came to eat the lynch. If she came in and fell apart, and got lynched, that's far worse than letting Eddie play it out, and if he dies he can then replace into the slot in her original game.
I see this attempt at throwing shade on Pirate as stonewalling my successful breakthroughs in this game.
Mollie is my strongest town read.
My reads are very clearly reflected in my death list: those players I think are scum. the players not on the death list, I think are town. This, again, is useless posting.
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:34 am
by ZZZX
Btw wge what do you think about sotty's disconnection between reads and vote?
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:35 am
by ZZZX
Nacho,I kinda disagree with you. I think the current dicussion has some mertis to it. if you are town as you state you should be workign with abr to the very end to clarify where and what hes misunderstanding
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:36 am
by Albert B. Rampage
Deadline is a day from here, we need town votes on nacho. Scum can mobilize votes at a moment's notice and blend in to a nacho counterwagon. Pirate is town and we need her nacho vote (who she thinks is scum but has never voted due not to being scumbuddies, but probably because she is too much willing to give him a pass because she underrates her instinct, and overvalues his contribution when he's town). Yes, nacho is good at finding out when you're scum Pirate, he isn't infallible though. We need him to flip ASAP.
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:37 am
by Nachomamma8
ABR, if I self-vote, will you stop talking and let me work? Deadline is a majority lynch, so there's no need to worry about no lynching.
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:39 am
by Nachomamma8
↑ZZZX wrote:Nacho,I kinda disagree with you. I think the current dicussion has some mertis to it. if you are town as you state you should be workign with abr to the very end to clarify where and what hes misunderstanding
ABR is a man of his word. that's all I need from him.
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:39 am
by Albert B. Rampage
I will stop when you are hammered. Nothing is in cement until then. Wagons can be derailed and all my efforts will be in vain.
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:40 am
by Nachomamma8
If he asked me things that were about other people, sure I'd be happy to answer. Instead, he's still pushing me as scum. there's absolutely no reason to push me as scum when I'm getting lynched.
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:44 am
by Albert B. Rampage
Spare me, Sotty was at 4 votes for the longest time, she didn't get lynched. If even one person gets cold feet and switches to Sotty, or Kagami, anything can happen. I was born at night but not last night.
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:44 am
by ZZZX
Nacho listen. I agree abr will be a man of his words but hes trying to understand you better, so please think about it: dont you think clarifying his supportive misunderstandings would help in the long run as well as future games if you 2 are to play again? like we looking at this more objectivly now if anything.
Not happening. You just town cleared yourself and we're about to lynch your scumread Nacho.
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:52 am
by Nachomamma8
↑ZZZX wrote:Nacho listen. I agree abr will be a man of his words but hes trying to understand you better, so please think about it: dont you think clarifying his supportive misunderstandings would help in the long run as well as future games if you 2 are to play again? like we looking at this more objectivly now if anything.
I'm fine playing with ABR. He's not trying to understand me. The line of continuing to push my scum is trying to get my lynch, just like the current strongarm of Mollie is doing.
↑Nachomamma8 wrote:Give Sotty 48 hours to prepare her list of four names. If she provides them and flips town, follow her reads exactly. If she doesn't post them and flips town, then Metal Sonic chooses the next day's lynch, with the caveat that he does not lynch ZZZX. If Sotty flips scum, follow the same procedure with Kagami.
It is important that this plan is followed to a T: lynch order is important, trusting town whenever they are lynched is important. If you are town, prepping the best list you possibly can is important.
Is anything about this unclear/unsatisfactory?
the problem with this is that town are wanting to lynch you and if you are town that is pretty horrible. they will line up lynches based on interactions, I am just going to go with that me and ooba are next.
I think there is a distinct possibility you will flip scum. I wish I cld have had more space to work it out tho. cos I am unsure.
the thing that bothers me about this post is that I think the "town" block has scum on it and you know this given your direction and me wondering if you are scum. <---- wifom
When I flip town, I have faith they will follow my reads. They have all promised as much.
I don't think the town block has scum on it, but if it does, the people who flip town on that list should be able to root them out.
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:59 am
by ZZZX
@Mollie: please just stop and work with us. we prmoise you come the end of it everything will be fine.
@Nacho: Ok then
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:59 am
by Nachomamma8
↑Albert B. Rampage wrote:Spare me, Sotty was at 4 votes for the longest time, she didn't get lynched. If even one person gets cold feet and switches to Sotty, or Kagami, anything can happen. I was born at night but not last night.
You're correct. This game's lynched are extremely unpredicatable and can be influenced by the slightest prod in the right direction. My lynch is currently happening because I endorse it. It will happen because I genuinely believe this is the best move for town. I would be very, very happy if you just let me do my thing.
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:02 am
by ZZZX
Nacho need anything before i go sleep btw?
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:04 am
by Nachomamma8
↑Nachomamma8 wrote:Give Sotty 48 hours to prepare her list of four names. If she provides them and flips town, follow her reads exactly. If she doesn't post them and flips town, then Metal Sonic chooses the next day's lynch, with the caveat that he does not lynch ZZZX. If Sotty flips scum, follow the same procedure with Kagami.
It is important that this plan is followed to a T: lynch order is important, trusting town whenever they are lynched is important. If you are town, prepping the best list you possibly can is important.
Is anything about this unclear/unsatisfactory?
Lynching order is Sotty ---> Kagami ---> GreyICE ---> Zar. The only thing that changes lynching order is a town flip.
Wgeurts, ABR, ZZZX, GreyICE have all agreed to this. I would very much like Metal Sonic, ooba, and Mollie to agree with this. I would very much like Zar to agree with this. I would very much like Kagami to agree with this.
There should not be any deviations from this plan for any reason whatsoever.
kagami, for not posting enough, ooba not posting at all in a game he signed up for, sotty is opportunistic, zar is is somehow cleared by my team and grey is still scum?
do I have it right?
I'm getting an allergic reaction to the sudden "clearance" of my slot without a flip. I mean, I'm already aware I'm town so it's nice to have the acceptance and stuff, but I would like Mollie to explain why her team is allegedly "clearing" me.
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:03 pm
by quadz08
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.
Deadline is 4/18 at 6 PM Eastern, which is in (expired on 2015-04-18 18:00:00).
kagami, for not posting enough, ooba not posting at all in a game he signed up for, sotty is opportunistic, zar is is somehow cleared by my team and grey is still scum?
do I have it right?
I'm getting an allergic reaction to the sudden "clearance" of my slot without a flip. I mean, I'm already aware I'm town so it's nice to have the acceptance and stuff, but I would like Mollie to explain why her team is allegedly "clearing" me.
Are you on board with the plan?
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:08 pm
by Zar
↑wgeurts wrote:Nacho wagon is based off only town and kagami wagon is built up horribly. We gain the most info from lynching nacho, I agree with MS. Half wat through the game again with my reread.
Can you please explain why you think the Kagami wagon is built up horribly?
tbh I just really can't believe the Kagami wagon that sprung went away and evaporated. It's starting to look like the competing wagons in this day seem to sprout as a direct resistance to her lynch.
p.Edit: @Nacho: as much as I loathe being mislynched, I'm on board with your plan.
