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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:59 am
by MariaR
In post 2172, Infinity 324 wrote:By the way, I doubt there was a mafia tracker
and
a mafia voyeur. So I doubt Maria is scum.

Can someone try and setup spec for me? I'm not good at stuff like that.

Maria, why don't you suspect vedith if you doubt there is a watcher and 2 doctors in the setup? Would you suspect him if I flipped town?
Yes

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:05 am
by MariaR
It's really scum sided for there 2 be 2 doctors imo

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:07 am
by Vedith
So with Rask... I don't like the whole DGB and HipLop scum day 2, but voting HipLop over DGB and putting HipLop before DGB in the scummier lynch part. It's a psychology thing imo.
It would make sense to distance from DGB while pushing for a HipLop vote here.

@Slandaar - Can you explain your thought process on why you were obvious town? This is not a dig, I just want to know.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:08 am
by Vedith
In post 2176, MariaR wrote:It's really scum sided for there 2 be 2 doctors imo
Why?
Infinity claiming doc
AFTER
HipLop did makes no sense.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:12 am
by Vedith
In post 806, Slandaar wrote:Leaving
LQ
,
KTS
,
DGB
, Maria,
Aristo
Possible that Slandaar got all the scum in this post?

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:13 am
by Vedith
@Maria - Why are you town again?

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:13 am
by Raskolnikov
wtf...

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:14 am
by Vedith
In post 2181, Raskolnikov wrote:wtf...
Yes?

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:16 am
by Raskolnikov
well at least there's 2 lynches available I guess

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:18 am
by Vedith
So I don't think I like Slandaar as the vote either.
To me it's Rask or Maria...

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:22 am
by Vedith
So as it stands, the claims we have are

Vedith - Watcher, watched Fire
Maria Tracker - Tracked Infinity to me (I guess tracker confirmed, just not alignment)
Slandaar - VT
Rask - VT
Infinity - Doc and visited me

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:23 am
by Vedith
Infinity is more or less confirmed, right? If Maria is town, then she saw him go to me, and I can't think of a scum role that would benefit them to visit me without me dying.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:25 am
by Vedith
Tracker could be town or scum in this situation, but I feel tracker would be redundant as scum as powers are only night 2.
Game balance wise would suggest that a VT is a goon.

Slandaar I'm liking more from his early posts.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:26 am
by Vedith
In post 2187, Vedith wrote:Tracker could be town or scum in this situation, but I feel tracker would be redundant as scum as powers are only night 2.
To clarify - I mean that Tracker is to see who has a role with scum... It doesn't matter who has roles for scum overall as they can only be used 1 night, and not after the information is gained.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:27 am
by Raskolnikov
alive
Raskolnikov - VT
Infinity 324 - Doc claim, visited vedith
Slandaar - VT (lateclaim)
MariaR - tracker (infinity visited vedith)
Vedith - watcher (checked fire)

dead
Firebringer- VT
Manuel87 - VT (claimed PR)
hiplop - Doc (late claim)
JarJarDrinks - Gunsmith
DrippingGoofball - Mafia PR/Watcher claim
LicketyQuickety - Mafia Goon/VT claim

So 4 VT, 5 PR of which 1 is scum
infinity town would mean double doc
maria + vedith town would mean town tracker + watcher

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:29 am
by Raskolnikov
I think 4 VTs is reasonable though. Slan scum would mean 3 VTs to 5 PRs which is like eh.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:30 am
by Raskolnikov
Vedith did you get no result or no one visited

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:31 am
by Vedith
In post 2191, Raskolnikov wrote:Vedith did you get no result or no one visited
He was not visited.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:33 am
by Raskolnikov
In post 2187, Vedith wrote:Game balance wise would suggest that a VT is a goon.
Are you actually sure on this?

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:35 am
by Raskolnikov
you bastard I see what you're doing. saying we should lynch in VTs and that you think slandaar is town

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:38 am
by Raskolnikov
I kind of agree on tracker being useless except for the sole purpose of getting the player confirmed as a PR if they out results first and target PR

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:40 am
by Infinity 324
In post 2186, Vedith wrote:Infinity is more or less confirmed, right? If Maria is town, then she saw him go to me, and I can't think of a scum role that would benefit them to visit me without me dying.
I could be another track/watch role, but eh
In post 2187, Vedith wrote:Tracker could be town or scum in this situation, but I feel tracker would be redundant as scum as powers are only night 2.
I agree.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:42 am
by Raskolnikov
2 docs, gunsmith, watcher, tracker if all PRs are true
VS mafia voyeur, goon, ???

is this a reasonable level of power? also technically tracker as town has usage of checking 1 VT claim to make sure they haven't gone anywhere
I'm not sure if this was designed with early massclaim in mind

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:49 am
by Infinity 324
I think reviewers would take mass claim into account.

Right now I'm at:

-Slandaar doesn't fit in the scum team really
-Pretty sure rask is town
-Doubt scum have a tracker, so I think maria is town

Which would leave vedith scum by PoE, which makes sense. Vedith didn't want to lynch DGB until he counter claimed (which is, tbf, points in his favor). Kraska had DGB as lean town, then switching to voting her, then jumped on kts. DGB and LQ has vedith slot as town but didn't mention it much. The only problem is this interaction which I find really weird if kraska and LQ are both scum (incoming in next post...)

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:53 am
by Raskolnikov
How does everyone feel about the VT count?