I received "no action," mbaki. I claimed otherwise because I was hoping scum would kill one of you instead of me.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:49 am
by mbaki
Yay, people claiming useless gambits that I now need to decide if scum or dumb town. Another great facet to this great game.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:50 am
by Creature
For one moment I thought you were actually disloyal and received no result on mbaki and Kmd.
Dammit.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:52 am
by Creature
Town Follower
Town Voyeur
Town Universal Backup
Town Commuter
Town Ascetic
vs
Mafia Traitor Rolecop
Hmm what?
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:58 am
by Varsoon
It's why I scumread the 1-shot Neopolitan claim.
The interactions both the '1-shot' and 'Neopolitan' parts have with Universal Backup are so wonky, I didn't think it'd be a likely role to have.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:05 am
by Kmd4390
I'm also VT. My only issue with the phrasing of "townie action" is that you don't really have to know what we did because the only thing not covered is targeting the person who was NK'd. However, suka said I was a "no action" before I claimed which scum only knows if they have some kind of result on me and their rolecop died N1.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:09 am
by Varsoon
Good logic there, KMD.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:10 am
by mbaki
VOTE: DDL
Sure, Kmd. Why the fuck not believe the person who claimed
that you had an action
and
that you didn't have an action
. Scum's investigative that
wasn't in their PT
is dead, so there is no way scum could know that you
either have or don't have
an action. As Varsoon said, great logic.
I don't care about this game anymore. Fuck all of you.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:13 am
by Kmd4390
Suka came right out and said I took no action before I claimed. That would have been a lie that would have been exposed had I taken an action. There's actually a world where someone could see no action as a townie action, although I'd disagree. That could easily be scum who didn't kill that night. Point is, claiming I took no action is risking a lie being exposed. I don't see it the other way around.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:14 am
by Varsoon
for some reason, both mbaki and oka's frustrations come off as forced to me in this phase.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:15 am
by Varsoon
In post 2184, Kmd4390 wrote:Suka came right out and said I took no action before I claimed. That would have been a lie that would have been exposed had I taken an action. There's actually a world where someone could see no action as a townie action, although I'd disagree. That could easily be scum who didn't kill that night. Point is, claiming I took no action is risking a lie being exposed. I don't see it the other way around.
This line of logic is what I was saying was good.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:15 am
by Varsoon
Also, I think the claimed 'townie action' gambit is solid since it can catch those players in a lie.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:20 am
by mbaki
In post 2187, Varsoon wrote:Also, I think the claimed 'townie action' gambit is solid since it can catch those players in a lie.
No, it isn't... If you claim it on scum who didn't make an action, they'd know they didn't make an action. There is
no reason
they'd think "oh, great, I can claim doc now!"
In post 2185, Varsoon wrote:for some reason, both mbaki and oka's frustrations come off as forced to me in this phase.
You were helping more when you weren't posting.
In post 2184, Kmd4390 wrote:Suka came right out and said I took no action before I claimed. That would have been a lie that would have been exposed had I taken an action. There's actually a world where someone could see no action as a townie action, although I'd disagree. That could easily be scum who didn't kill that night. Point is, claiming I took no action is risking a lie being exposed. I don't see it the other way around.
He did it after 5 PR claims, and a traitor game always has low town power. After his first action choice got called out.
I believe Suka's stupid claim fits dumb town rather than scum, hence my vote being on DDL, but guess what: "a lie that would have been exposed had I taken an action" was the lie that we had townie actions he first went with getting called out.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:21 am
by Varsoon
Why do you think it's DDL over the claimed ascetic and commuter?
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:32 am
by mbaki
Why do you not think its DDL, after you were one of the players tunneling him earlier?
Oka and DDL is my solve currently.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:33 am
by Varsoon
Eh, just wondering why you think otherwise is all.
Could be him, but I'm not sure.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:34 am
by Varsoon
We should probably look at the night kills and see if there's something to be gained from those.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:43 am
by Varsoon
You'd think that I'd be killed by now if DDL was scum, right?
Since I had such a hard-on for their lynch and, apparently, with rb's flip, I looked pretty town, right?
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:44 am
by mbaki
Assuming you aren't partners with him, no, I don't think you'd ever be killed.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:48 am
by Varsoon
You don't think DDL would see me as a threat worth removing if he was scum and I was town?
Hm.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:36 am
by mbaki
I think you are on bath salts or something if you think you'd ever be a night kill candidate for anybody this game.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:50 am
by Varsoon
Damn, dude.
I guess it's true, though. I played in a way that'd make me very low priority to kill and that's on top of me being a shitter at this game.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:25 am
by mbaki
And, I looked at the night kills. Rb's only scumread still alive is DDL.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:01 am
by Creature
Hmmm, what are the odds rb didn't scumread any of his partners?