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In post 2152, Flavor Leaf wrote:Votecount 1.15
Vedith(5) ~ Near x Mello(91), Chito and Yuuri(79), Clemency(52), mastina(73), Joan of Arc(32)

Votecount 1.16
Vedith(9) L-1 ~ Chito and Yuuri(83), mastina(78), Joan of Arc(32), Drixx(22), Gamma Emerald(82), Torque(81), Spike and Jet(127), Near x Mello(97), Almost50(58)

Here’s the Vedith wagon. It started picking up steam, then Vedith claims and real quickly Near changes his vote to Mastina. Counterclaimed, and Near has to move back to get the bus cred.

The fact that this was counterclaimed tells me that scum is on this wagon. I think I want to say Chito’s town from this because he was on Vedith for a long time and stayed strong onto it, plus I doubt it’s them and Near.

Mastina is probably town, but could be coasting scum, i don’t really care to get into that right now. Drixx is flipped town. Joan is one of the homies. I’ll explain why i believe Gamma to be town when I pull up another vote count. And A50 is suiciding if he’s scum.

That leaves Near, SnJ, and Torque. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were multiple scum on this wagon, and my bets would be Near and Torque if that were the case. Near relieves pressure from scummate Vedith then they got counterclaimed.

I have some more Vote stuff I’m gonna pull up for Gamma and Torque.

In post 2153, Flavor Leaf wrote:1.15
Drixx(2) ~ singletonking(48), Torque(67)

This is who is voting Drixx prior to claims. Torque then move some over onto Vedith once Drixx claims even though they were voting there, which is why I’m starting to feel ScumTorque is very possible.



1.16
Gamma Emerald(3)~ Elena Fisher(22), Pink Ball, Clemency

This was the largest wagon besides Vedith at the end of the day. I know there was a Pink ball wagon prior, but that dissipated, so I think this is more telling. Clemency is basically conf town in my eyes already, and Pink Ball and I got into some discussion where they basically metaphorically slapped me because I was getting paranoid on the slot, mixed in with the Vedith countering wagon, Pink Ball is town. Elena being on the Gamma wagon splits scum, which we all know scum like to do, which directly coincides with the Elena/Near scum team I’ve been stating.

Near bused Vedith but backed off once pressure got involved. Near was pushing Elena/Robert/Me as scum, pushed Robert and myself, but Elena wagon gained a little steam and backed off.

In post 2156, Flavor Leaf wrote:Votecount 1.11
Vedith(5) ~ Near x Mello(73), Chito and Yuuri(70), Torque(60), Clemency(43), Spike and Jet(115)
Pink Ball(5) ~ Gamma Emerald(66), Joan of Arc(29), Robert2424(15), Almost50(44), Vedith(41)

These were the countering wagons prior. This actually makes me believe that Torque isn’t scum, and after thinking about it, there easily could be another scum on the Pink ball wagon here in the form of Robert.

Still. Near’s bussing on the Vedith wagon and bussing/backing off of Elena now. I don’t think Robert flips red either.

This one opens my eyes a bit more that i’m Probably wrong on a town read somewhere, but it doesn’t change the fact that Near is scum.

In post 2157, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 2154, Spike and Jet wrote:think my interactions with vedith are pretty obviously not s/s to anyone who bothers to look closely at them

Yeah, I only put you on that list because of technicalities. I don’t think you’re scum, as you can tell.

Also, Near’s trying to coerce you into mislynching me. The only thing he can do to defend himself is to act like none of this affects anything. He’s trying to push his Elena scum read

In post 2159, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 2158, Near x Mello wrote:Votecount 1.11

Vedith

(5) ~

Near x Mello

(73),

Chito and Yuuri

(70),

Torque

(60),

Clemency

(43),

Spike and Jet

(115)

Pink Ball

(5) ~

Gamma Emerald

(66),

Joan of Arc

(29),

Robert2424

(15),

Almost50

(44),

Vedith

(41)

i can also paint pictures

~Near

But for you, there’s no soul in it! All you are trying to do is discredit discredit discredit, when in actuality, even if my analysis is wrong, it isn’t poor analysis. Any deeper thinking and bringing up acts of the past are beneficial.

This is you actively trying to keep town from organizing.

In post 2160, Flavor Leaf wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10623037

Here’s the last game I did VCA with if anyone wants to check playstyle and whatnot.

It was later in game, so i had much more to go off of, but yeah

In post 2164, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 2161, Near x Mello wrote:your analysis is poor and crystal clear manipulative because you begin with the hypothesis im scum

~Near

It’s not that I began with that hypothesis, I have been actively finding reasons to believe that you are scum this game, and you haven’t attempted at all this game to rectify that read.

It’s not on me to analyze you “better” when you don’t give any sort of actual posting to analyze in the sense. I have been looking for scum elsewhere, I had even considered the fact that i was wrong on you multiple times, but you don’t give any actual reasons for anything, you constantly discredit and misrep, and nobody in this game should feel bad if they don’t town read you because you don’t give them anything. You are actively avoiding giving any sense of read on you, which is more than likely because you are scum.

Is there a part of me that feels that you could be green? Yes. It’s Not very high, though, because you are actively avoiding actually playing and just constantly tunnel in almost an entirely political fashion.

You wait for momentum to be pulled, and you help use the centripetal force of the natural flow and momentum in this game to move it where you would like to move it.

This has happened time after time this game, with the Vedith claim, you helping relieve the pressure, but then it got bounced right back.

You waited for Mastina to case me so you could use the momentum to join on me. The momentum was siding with me, so you backed off of it.

This is your scum game. You aren’t playing to find scum, youre swinging the momentum around to have the group mindset collectively mislynch so you don’t have to take the fall for it, and playing it in a way where if someone is mislynched, it’s their own fault.

In post 2165, Flavor Leaf wrote:you know the best reason for everyone here to see that I am the town win this situation?

ScumWisdom has to get rid of TownFL because I’m tunneling. If I am night killed, I will do damage to the scum team, and Clemency can become confirmed town.

ScumFL doesn’t need to push Wisdom here. I night kill threats and people that push me. Take a look at OK2. I literally spent 2 nights making sure Wisdom dies.

Drixx was also in my channel.

Wisdom says that scumFL just needs to kill Wisdom then that guarantees the game for me, right?

Then why was I actively letting Wisdom go for a bit? I was going over the possibility that he was town, and I talked about this in my channel that I just really didn’t want to be wrong on Wisdom.

I even decided to vote Elena, someone that Wisdom has stated was scum. I was going along with him to try and make sure my read was as accurate as it could possibly be.

He isn’t trying to read me, he’s trying to mislynch me. I have actively been trying to read him, and I discuss with him.


I respond to every single thing he comes after me for and when he tries to discredit me.

I clear everything up.

TownWisdom does not scum read me here after doing all of these things.

He just doesn’t.